I am running a F6FBB 7.00i BBS with BPQ node switch software. The PC has a
full time internet connection and users can TELNET into the BBS without any
hassles. The question of internet email came up a few months ago and I
thought it would be easy to figure out a way to forward a PACKET email to an
internet email address.

Well, it's not that easy. I have tried several things but nothing seems
to work. FBB doesn't forward internet email address's to the TCPIP/TELNET
port without make a connection to another BBS first.

Has anyone ever set up a email gateway using FBB software? Please give me
your ideas.

73,
Rob N4RPD

"N4RPD" wrote

Has anyone ever set up a email gateway using FBB software? Please give me
your ideas.

Is this for the people who can't afford an email ISP?

I have to tell you, it will get old *real* fast.

"N4RPD" wrote

Has anyone ever set up a email gateway using FBB software? Please give me
your ideas.

Is this for the people who can't afford an email ISP?

I have to tell you, it will get old *real* fast.

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:Ekpdc.5162$BR1.3356@okepread03...
"N4RPD" wrote

Has anyone ever set up a email gateway using FBB software? Please
give me
your ideas.

Is this for the people who can't afford an email ISP?

I have to tell you, it will get old *real* fast.


That's a good point. BBS message forwarding over Internet links is
comparable to making a "DX" contact over the EchoLink system.

( Yawn ) - Pretty boring! Zero accomplishment factor. No challenge.
Undercuts hams trying to do the same thing with radio.

Besides being about as exciting as watching paint dry, BBS message
forwarding over non-ham links causes serious problems for BBS SYSOPs who
actually DO use radio to forward messages, the way the system is intended to
be operated. These hams who use radio have priority over hams who do not, in
all of our considerations. To enjoy this status, all we have to do is to
cooperate with our fellow hams and use radio for this task. The BBS
forwarding network is a cooperative activity. If you cannot or do not
consider your fellow hams, you will not be either happy or effective as a
BBS SYSOP, and should not interfere with the activities of those who can and
do.

Since our affiliation with the Department of Homeland Security last year,
systems such as the HF BBS forwarding nets that can be used for some types
of emergency and disaster communications have been given some additional
regulatory status, and additional priority when being considered in
connection with grant proposals. One additional change over the last year is
the total loss of any sense of humor when cases of interference with
emergency communications systems come to light.

Operating a packet BBS is a serious task that requires a good deal of
dedication to and cooperation with your fellow hams, and especially with
your fellow SYSOPs. Injecting non-ham links into an amateur radio network
without consulting anybody as to its desireability reflects niether of these
good characteristics.

Even when they function well, ( they often do not ) the non-ham forwarding
links directly undercut the BBS forwarding network's special ability to
provide alternative, independent communications during the course of an
emergency. Because of the damage "internet forwarders" do to the HF net's
integrity, many BBS SYSOPs simply refuse to accept or deliver messages from
the "non-ham" BBS stations such as you propose. That tends to add to the
boredom factor.

The general class liscense exam is not substantially different from or more
difficult than the technician test. You do have to copy 5 wpm code,
something most hams are able to cram for within two or three weeks. Used
tube-type HF rigs suitable for most digital stuff are available online and
elsewhere for a couple hundred bucks or less, and a simple, inexpensive
inverted-V antenna will get you on the air with no tuner. Once other hams
find out what you are trying to do, many of them will be motivated to help
you out. - The point being that there is literally no excuse for injecting
non-ham links into an amateur radio network where they do not belong, and
where they are detrimental to our ability to provide emergency digital
communications.

Over the last few years, the great majority of the "non-ham" packet BBS
stations have shut down. Only a stubborn few remain.

Catch the wave! ( RF )

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:Ekpdc.5162$BR1.3356@okepread03...
"N4RPD" wrote

Has anyone ever set up a email gateway using FBB software? Please
give me
your ideas.

Is this for the people who can't afford an email ISP?

I have to tell you, it will get old *real* fast.


That's a good point. BBS message forwarding over Internet links is
comparable to making a "DX" contact over the EchoLink system.

( Yawn ) - Pretty boring! Zero accomplishment factor. No challenge.
Undercuts hams trying to do the same thing with radio.

Besides being about as exciting as watching paint dry, BBS message
forwarding over non-ham links causes serious problems for BBS SYSOPs who
actually DO use radio to forward messages, the way the system is intended to
be operated. These hams who use radio have priority over hams who do not, in
all of our considerations. To enjoy this status, all we have to do is to
cooperate with our fellow hams and use radio for this task. The BBS
forwarding network is a cooperative activity. If you cannot or do not
consider your fellow hams, you will not be either happy or effective as a
BBS SYSOP, and should not interfere with the activities of those who can and
do.

Since our affiliation with the Department of Homeland Security last year,
systems such as the HF BBS forwarding nets that can be used for some types
of emergency and disaster communications have been given some additional
regulatory status, and additional priority when being considered in
connection with grant proposals. One additional change over the last year is
the total loss of any sense of humor when cases of interference with
emergency communications systems come to light.

Operating a packet BBS is a serious task that requires a good deal of
dedication to and cooperation with your fellow hams, and especially with
your fellow SYSOPs. Injecting non-ham links into an amateur radio network
without consulting anybody as to its desireability reflects niether of these
good characteristics.

Even when they function well, ( they often do not ) the non-ham forwarding
links directly undercut the BBS forwarding network's special ability to
provide alternative, independent communications during the course of an
emergency. Because of the damage "internet forwarders" do to the HF net's
integrity, many BBS SYSOPs simply refuse to accept or deliver messages from
the "non-ham" BBS stations such as you propose. That tends to add to the
boredom factor.

The general class liscense exam is not substantially different from or more
difficult than the technician test. You do have to copy 5 wpm code,
something most hams are able to cram for within two or three weeks. Used
tube-type HF rigs suitable for most digital stuff are available online and
elsewhere for a couple hundred bucks or less, and a simple, inexpensive
inverted-V antenna will get you on the air with no tuner. Once other hams
find out what you are trying to do, many of them will be motivated to help
you out. - The point being that there is literally no excuse for injecting
non-ham links into an amateur radio network where they do not belong, and
where they are detrimental to our ability to provide emergency digital
communications.

Over the last few years, the great majority of the "non-ham" packet BBS
stations have shut down. Only a stubborn few remain.

Catch the wave! ( RF )

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net

"Charles Brabham" wrote


Operating a packet BBS is a serious task that requires a good deal of
dedication to and cooperation with your fellow hams, and especially with
your fellow SYSOPs.

Unless you are doing it for a hobby.

"Charles Brabham" wrote


Operating a packet BBS is a serious task that requires a good deal of
dedication to and cooperation with your fellow hams, and especially with
your fellow SYSOPs.

Unless you are doing it for a hobby.

Thanks for all the replys, good and bad. I should have said up front that I
intended only to provide a service for HAM's to send outgoing packet email
to internet email addresses' and NOT vice versa. I don't advocate non-ham
traffic on BBS's and do not host those type's of forums on my BBS, other
SysOps do and it is their decision to do so, but I choose not to for many of
the same reasons stated in the replys.

73,
Rob N4RPD

Thanks for all the replys, good and bad. I should have said up front that I
intended only to provide a service for HAM's to send outgoing packet email
to internet email addresses' and NOT vice versa. I don't advocate non-ham
traffic on BBS's and do not host those type's of forums on my BBS, other
SysOps do and it is their decision to do so, but I choose not to for many of
the same reasons stated in the replys.

73,
Rob N4RPD

I am SM0UGT

For this purpose i have gone deep in my thoughts in full spectrum
signalprocessing and
have made a papper with nodes that finds themselfs. unlike the current
packetradio
modes - that is fix in frequency - and have only the concetion of reciving
and sending
data. we have included in this design a sort of DSP system that works
directly on
the HF band. We are a group named Wormnet taskforce and are currently
looking
for people that works with modern digital design tools. Signaling is done
thrught
a system where nothing is settled and fixed. each node has its own
personality.

the system can inherent features from each other. No one is special client
or
special server. All this is floats around, made by a desision table.

The point is that if you place out a radio - the radio will be aware of
others automaticaly
it will even find other nodes. Information will be routed to the other end -
with out
any involvments from any other users than the system itself. Meaning
everyone will
be able to create a huge radiobased (universial) radionetwork. A deeper
information
package is avabile.

with other words - with the qoutes from down under I agree. Hamradio
enthusiasts
must build their own network and not releay on existing services; othervise
that
is false safty..



"Charles Brabham" skrev i meddelandet
. com...

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:Ekpdc.5162$BR1.3356@okepread03...
"N4RPD" wrote

Has anyone ever set up a email gateway using FBB software? Please
give me
your ideas.

Is this for the people who can't afford an email ISP?

I have to tell you, it will get old *real* fast.


That's a good point. BBS message forwarding over Internet links is
comparable to making a "DX" contact over the EchoLink system.

( Yawn ) - Pretty boring! Zero accomplishment factor. No
challenge.
Undercuts hams trying to do the same thing with radio.

Besides being about as exciting as watching paint dry, BBS message
forwarding over non-ham links causes serious problems for BBS SYSOPs who
actually DO use radio to forward messages, the way the system is intended
to
be operated. These hams who use radio have priority over hams who do not,
in
all of our considerations. To enjoy this status, all we have to do is to
cooperate with our fellow hams and use radio for this task. The BBS
forwarding network is a cooperative activity. If you cannot or do not
consider your fellow hams, you will not be either happy or effective as a
BBS SYSOP, and should not interfere with the activities of those who can
and
do.

Since our affiliation with the Department of Homeland Security last year,
systems such as the HF BBS forwarding nets that can be used for some types
of emergency and disaster communications have been given some additional
regulatory status, and additional priority when being considered in
connection with grant proposals. One additional change over the last year
is
the total loss of any sense of humor when cases of interference with
emergency communications systems come to light.

Operating a packet BBS is a serious task that requires a good deal of
dedication to and cooperation with your fellow hams, and especially with
your fellow SYSOPs. Injecting non-ham links into an amateur radio network
without consulting anybody as to its desireability reflects niether of
these
good characteristics.

Even when they function well, ( they often do not ) the non-ham forwarding
links directly undercut the BBS forwarding network's special ability to
provide alternative, independent communications during the course of an
emergency. Because of the damage "internet forwarders" do to the HF net's
integrity, many BBS SYSOPs simply refuse to accept or deliver messages
from
the "non-ham" BBS stations such as you propose. That tends to add to the
boredom factor.

The general class liscense exam is not substantially different from or
more
difficult than the technician test. You do have to copy 5 wpm code,
something most hams are able to cram for within two or three weeks. Used
tube-type HF rigs suitable for most digital stuff are available online and
elsewhere for a couple hundred bucks or less, and a simple, inexpensive
inverted-V antenna will get you on the air with no tuner. Once other hams
find out what you are trying to do, many of them will be motivated to help
you out. - The point being that there is literally no excuse for injecting
non-ham links into an amateur radio network where they do not belong, and
where they are detrimental to our ability to provide emergency digital
communications.

Over the last few years, the great majority of the "non-ham" packet BBS
stations have shut down. Only a stubborn few remain.

Catch the wave! ( RF )

Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Director: USPacket.Net
http://www.uspacket.net