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Rude Dog July 7th 04 02:43 PM

HELP! EOC Transceiver Needed
 
I hope members of this group can help me. I am in the Army National Guard
and I am charged with setting up emergency communications for my unit. I
need a transceiver that has a wide frequency range that can be issued to
our civilian emergency responders for commo with our land mobile units (we
cannot issue our military radios). I am looking for approximately 60 MHZ
thru 500 MHZ.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!



D. Strang July 8th 04 06:39 AM

They wouldn't be legally able to operate such rigs. Best bet is to give
them one band, say 2m, or 70cm.

Here's what I would do: I'd get a bunch of FRS radios and a crossband
repeater (70cm to 2m) and then put a beam on the 2 meter frequency to
the EOC or to another repeater.

That way you can have cells of users talking to each other on FRS, and the
crossband will relay their communications (with the crossband in a remote Van,
or otherwise local to the FRS users). Given a 50 watt or 150 watt amp, you
should be able to get pretty good range on 2m.

"Rude Dog" wrote
I hope members of this group can help me. I am in the Army National Guard
and I am charged with setting up emergency communications for my unit. I
need a transceiver that has a wide frequency range that can be issued to
our civilian emergency responders for commo with our land mobile units (we
cannot issue our military radios). I am looking for approximately 60 MHZ
thru 500 MHZ.

Any suggestions?




D. Strang July 8th 04 06:39 AM

They wouldn't be legally able to operate such rigs. Best bet is to give
them one band, say 2m, or 70cm.

Here's what I would do: I'd get a bunch of FRS radios and a crossband
repeater (70cm to 2m) and then put a beam on the 2 meter frequency to
the EOC or to another repeater.

That way you can have cells of users talking to each other on FRS, and the
crossband will relay their communications (with the crossband in a remote Van,
or otherwise local to the FRS users). Given a 50 watt or 150 watt amp, you
should be able to get pretty good range on 2m.

"Rude Dog" wrote
I hope members of this group can help me. I am in the Army National Guard
and I am charged with setting up emergency communications for my unit. I
need a transceiver that has a wide frequency range that can be issued to
our civilian emergency responders for commo with our land mobile units (we
cannot issue our military radios). I am looking for approximately 60 MHZ
thru 500 MHZ.

Any suggestions?




Mike Y July 8th 04 01:45 PM

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:O55Hc.8829$r3.8088@okepread03...
They wouldn't be legally able to operate such rigs. Best bet is to give
them one band, say 2m, or 70cm.


He should check. If he's operating under military authorization, then it's
quite possible he's allowed to do this.

If not, then I don't see how he's allowed to do it at all in the first
place,
REGARDLESS of the radio he's using.

And why in the world suggest FRS? The new kiddie/CB band. At least
go GMRS with the higher power or MURS. Better yet, get an itinerant
authorization on UHF.

Mike



Mike Y July 8th 04 01:45 PM

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:O55Hc.8829$r3.8088@okepread03...
They wouldn't be legally able to operate such rigs. Best bet is to give
them one band, say 2m, or 70cm.


He should check. If he's operating under military authorization, then it's
quite possible he's allowed to do this.

If not, then I don't see how he's allowed to do it at all in the first
place,
REGARDLESS of the radio he's using.

And why in the world suggest FRS? The new kiddie/CB band. At least
go GMRS with the higher power or MURS. Better yet, get an itinerant
authorization on UHF.

Mike



D. Strang July 8th 04 10:16 PM

"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.



D. Strang July 8th 04 10:16 PM

"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.



[email protected] July 9th 04 12:01 AM

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:16:17 -0500, "D. Strang"
wrote:

"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.



Then you get to pay for all those GMRS licenses, unless you
live in one of those areas where everyone is related.


[email protected] July 9th 04 12:01 AM

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:16:17 -0500, "D. Strang"
wrote:

"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.



Then you get to pay for all those GMRS licenses, unless you
live in one of those areas where everyone is related.


D. Strang July 9th 04 04:30 AM

After a dirty-bomb goes off, no one will care about licenses, only where to
dig the mass grave.

wrote
wrote:

"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.



Then you get to pay for all those GMRS licenses, unless you
live in one of those areas where everyone is related.




D. Strang July 9th 04 04:30 AM

After a dirty-bomb goes off, no one will care about licenses, only where to
dig the mass grave.

wrote
wrote:

"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.



Then you get to pay for all those GMRS licenses, unless you
live in one of those areas where everyone is related.




[email protected] July 9th 04 07:49 AM

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 22:30:24 -0500, "D. Strang"
wrote:

After a dirty-bomb goes off, no one will care about licenses, only where to
dig the mass grave.


Sheesh. Beat the rush -- start driving down the wrong side of
the street today.

[email protected] July 9th 04 07:49 AM

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 22:30:24 -0500, "D. Strang"
wrote:

After a dirty-bomb goes off, no one will care about licenses, only where to
dig the mass grave.


Sheesh. Beat the rush -- start driving down the wrong side of
the street today.

Mike Y July 9th 04 02:20 PM

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:IPiHc.10764$r3.3338@okepread03...
"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.


You mean the 'combined' FRS/GMRS radios that cover both services but
are still limited to FRS only power levels.

Not much better. At least the GMRS only radios allow you to go 2W of
power.

Although it probably won't be long until there's a radio that does
selectable
power on the GMRS frequencies, and low power only on the FRS only
frequencies.

By the way, I picked up a 'blister card' with 2 GMRS HTs on it at BJs for
$25 after rebate. Granted, that was last year. The 2W units...





Mike Y July 9th 04 02:20 PM

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:IPiHc.10764$r3.3338@okepread03...
"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.


You mean the 'combined' FRS/GMRS radios that cover both services but
are still limited to FRS only power levels.

Not much better. At least the GMRS only radios allow you to go 2W of
power.

Although it probably won't be long until there's a radio that does
selectable
power on the GMRS frequencies, and low power only on the FRS only
frequencies.

By the way, I picked up a 'blister card' with 2 GMRS HTs on it at BJs for
$25 after rebate. Granted, that was last year. The 2W units...





D. Strang July 9th 04 10:49 PM

"Mike Y" wrote
"D. Strang" wrote
"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.


You mean the 'combined' FRS/GMRS radios that cover both services but
are still limited to FRS only power levels.

Not much better. At least the GMRS only radios allow you to go 2W of
power.

Although it probably won't be long until there's a radio that does
selectable
power on the GMRS frequencies, and low power only on the FRS only
frequencies.

By the way, I picked up a 'blister card' with 2 GMRS HTs on it at BJs for
$25 after rebate. Granted, that was last year. The 2W units...


I guess my main point was that most emergencies are very local, and just need
a crossband repeater to get out of the hole. Don't buy a 60 to 500 MHz radio,
and don't buy radios that cost $150 a piece. Get a whole bunch of radios that
you can throw away when they break, or get stolen.



D. Strang July 9th 04 10:49 PM

"Mike Y" wrote
"D. Strang" wrote
"Mike Y" wrote

And why in the world suggest FRS?


You can buy 100 of them for the price of just a few GMRS only radios,
and get GMRS and FRS in the same radio.


You mean the 'combined' FRS/GMRS radios that cover both services but
are still limited to FRS only power levels.

Not much better. At least the GMRS only radios allow you to go 2W of
power.

Although it probably won't be long until there's a radio that does
selectable
power on the GMRS frequencies, and low power only on the FRS only
frequencies.

By the way, I picked up a 'blister card' with 2 GMRS HTs on it at BJs for
$25 after rebate. Granted, that was last year. The 2W units...


I guess my main point was that most emergencies are very local, and just need
a crossband repeater to get out of the hole. Don't buy a 60 to 500 MHz radio,
and don't buy radios that cost $150 a piece. Get a whole bunch of radios that
you can throw away when they break, or get stolen.




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