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yea right January 17th 05 08:14 AM

Is BPL going to take up more spectrum?
 


http://broadcastengineering.com/news...ower-20050116/

With a repeater every mile, they will not be able to fulfill the goal of
cheap Internet for rural users. AUT (another useless technology)

King Zulu January 27th 05 02:44 PM


"yea right" wrote in message
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http://broadcastengineering.com/news...it-data-power-
20050116/

With a repeater every mile, they will not be able to fulfill the goal of
cheap Internet for rural users. AUT (another useless technology)


"Their system uses repeaters placed at every one kilometer, (0.62 miles) and
requires power lines to be modified to reduce interference with the data
signals. The estimates were based on computer models, and that the data
speeds available in a real-world version would depend on how many repeaters
a power company used."

Nothing like trying to use something intended for one use for some other
unrelated use. Why would any fool want to put high-speed transmission data
on an unshielded single wire feedline that travels for miles in a hostile
communications environment? One would think the idea wouldn't get off the
professor's desk. Maybe PhD's should harvest rice six months each year to
find out what the real world is all about?

ak






Mark Zenier January 28th 05 06:49 PM

In article ,
-=jd=- wrote:

I've heard it said that for the past several decades, society has been
steadily replacing things that work just fine, with stuff that merely
sounds "neat".

BPL may be yet another example.


During the dot.com boom, they were laying underground fiber all over.
(Downtown Seattle was especially bad, as the place was boomtown squared).
And most of it is lying in the ground unused because of "The Last Mile"
problem. It's as expensive to build the local distribution network to
get it from the fiber companies hub to individual customer sites as it
is to build the long distance network.

So along come the investor owned electrical utilities, who would just
love to have an unregulated business (so that they can get a more
profitable tap on the consumer's veins) yelling "WE CAN DO THAT".

With BPL they can set up in the business to compete with the cable and
telephone companies. So what if the stuff doesn't work, they can replace
it later with the same hardware the cable company uses. BAIT AND SWITCH.

And the regulated rate payers will probably foot a good part of the bill
because the whole company isn't making the profit levels the regulators
will allow.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


Cecil Moore January 29th 05 06:04 PM

Mark Zenier wrote:
With BPL they can set up in the business to compete with the cable and
telephone companies. So what if the stuff doesn't work, they can replace
it later with the same hardware the cable company uses. BAIT AND SWITCH.


Maybe some good news - I hear that BPL is showing up as
blips on radars.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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CW January 29th 05 06:08 PM

I would say this whole idea has been sold by people more interested in
getting the money of ignorant investors that building a workable system. BPL
will likely die shortly after implemenation if it ever gets off the grond at
all. The cost is just to high for it to be viable.

"King Zulu" wrote in message
news:177Kd.31343$IV5.22958@attbi_s54...

Nothing like trying to use something intended for one use for some other
unrelated use. Why would any fool want to put high-speed transmission

data
on an unshielded single wire feedline that travels for miles in a hostile
communications environment? One would think the idea wouldn't get off the
professor's desk. Maybe PhD's should harvest rice six months each year to
find out what the real world is all about?

ak








Richard Clark January 29th 05 06:52 PM

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 10:08:36 -0800, "CW"
wrote:
The cost is just to high for it to be viable.


Hi OM,

BPL suffers the same problem: "The Last Mile." However, in rural
America it is not 1000 customers in the last mile, it is the 3
customers in the last 10 miles.

BPL has all the smoke and mirror investment potential as a new
millennium dot.com. WiMax will bury this fizzling comedy.

For a disparaging view of WiMax:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759...039TX1B0000665
It is obvious that even the most restrained and pulled back design
wins hands down over BPL for BPL's proposed customer base.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


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