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Charlie February 14th 05 12:17 AM

The HIGHER the BETTER
 
Raised my M2 Horizontal Loop antenna from 20ft above ground to 45ft above
ground and picked up a full S-unit (s7 to s8) at a receiving station 70
miles away. Mode was SSB and frequency was 144.200 mhz. Also my receiving
ability was enhanced dramatically....

The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!

Photos and tech info on the M2 HO Loop antenna at the site listed below....

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com







Glenn February 14th 05 01:51 AM

"Charlie" wrote in message ...
The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!


That's always been the rule on VHF/UHF.

73 de Glenn AA5PK



David 01 February 14th 05 07:17 AM


"Glenn" wrote in message
news:luTPd.8673$Ps.7054@okepread06...
"Charlie" wrote in message

...
The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!


That's always been the rule on VHF/UHF.

73 de Glenn AA5PK


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high (high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get up
out of the signal.



Buck February 14th 05 04:47 PM

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:17:15 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high (high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get up
out of the signal.



One can also have a problem with height if the get so high as to key
multiple repeaters on a common frequency. While this is more commonly
a problem with aeronautical mobile stations, it also happens around
here for stations on hills between several repeaters or whose beams
line up with more than one repeater.

Buck

Buck
--
For what it's worth.


Gary S. February 14th 05 05:40 PM

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:47:52 -0500, Buck wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:17:15 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high (high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get up
out of the signal.

One can also have a problem with height if the get so high as to key
multiple repeaters on a common frequency. While this is more commonly
a problem with aeronautical mobile stations, it also happens around
here for stations on hills between several repeaters or whose beams
line up with more than one repeater.

I have run into this when hiking, and operating from various summits.
I keyed up a repeater in Boston from the summit of Mt. Monadnock
(southern NH) and also got a repeater on the same frequency in CT.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

David 01 February 14th 05 11:42 PM


"Gary S." Idontwantspam@net wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:47:52 -0500, Buck wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:17:15 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:


UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high

(high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get

up
out of the signal.

One can also have a problem with height if the get so high as to key
multiple repeaters on a common frequency. While this is more commonly
a problem with aeronautical mobile stations, it also happens around
here for stations on hills between several repeaters or whose beams
line up with more than one repeater.

I have run into this when hiking, and operating from various summits.
I keyed up a repeater in Boston from the summit of Mt. Monadnock
(southern NH) and also got a repeater on the same frequency in CT.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom


Yeah, I experienced that too in 1991 on top of Mt Mitchell, NC, 6685 ft.
back when few repeaters used tone squelch. 5 watts and I made several people
angry in the southern states.



Gary S. February 15th 05 12:22 AM

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:42:34 -0500, "David 01"
wrote:

"Gary S." Idontwantspam@net wrote in message
.. .

I have run into this when hiking, and operating from various summits.
I keyed up a repeater in Boston from the summit of Mt. Monadnock
(southern NH) and also got a repeater on the same frequency in CT.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)


Yeah, I experienced that too in 1991 on top of Mt Mitchell, NC, 6685 ft.
back when few repeaters used tone squelch. 5 watts and I made several people
angry in the southern states.

No one really angry, but a few people in Boston were confused when
they only heard my side of the conversation with the ham in CT,
although there was no other traffic on the Boston repeater. Only the
Boston repeater has tone, the other one doesn't.

I have also seen some areas deal with tone added for intermod control
by having all of the repeaters in the area (coastal Maine for example)
use the same CTSCC tone. This simplified things for hams with older
equipment.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

Glenn February 15th 05 02:05 AM

"David 01" wrote in message ...

"Glenn" wrote in message
news:luTPd.8673$Ps.7054@okepread06...
"Charlie" wrote in message

...
The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!


That's always been the rule on VHF/UHF.

73 de Glenn AA5PK

UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high (high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get up
out of the signal.


He did say he was operating SSB.



David 01 February 15th 05 02:37 AM


"Glenn" wrote in message
news:NNcQd.8786$Ps.3659@okepread06...
"David 01" wrote in message

...

"Glenn" wrote in message
news:luTPd.8673$Ps.7054@okepread06...
"Charlie" wrote in message

...
The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!

That's always been the rule on VHF/UHF.

73 de Glenn AA5PK

UNLESS you're working through repeaters and live in the valleys of a
mountainous area. Then you're working bounces and if you get too high

(high
off the ground, but not as high as the hilltops around you), you can get

up
out of the signal.


He did say he was operating SSB.



Yes he did and you just made a broad statement concerning VHF/UHF. That was
the statement I commented about.



ZZZPK February 16th 05 01:07 AM

"Glenn" wrote:

: "Charlie" wrote in message ...
: The HIGHER the BETTER !!!!
:
: That's always been the rule on VHF/UHF.

yes..but its a bummer when the FAA/NASA call around :-)



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