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Caveat Lector September 11th 03 05:10 PM

Do You Use A Linear On The WARC Bands ? A Poll
 
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only) and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All



[email protected] September 11th 03 05:22 PM

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:B718b.24947$n94.10212@fed1read04...
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner

that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do

particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All



Just for record, I was the wide guy who made a disparaging comment about
amps on the WARC bands and starting this whole thing I'm afraid. My comments
were an attempt at irony directed at:
1) CB amps that spray RF 10KHz in all directions (up, down, and for all
I know into undreamed of directions)
2) Overmodulated amplified signals (results similar to the above; often
combined with the above)
3) Folks who run amps when rag chewing when they are not necessary (If
your QSO partner tells you that you are "40 over 9" it seems reasonable to
me to reduce the power and take up less bandwidth).

I have a 1 KW amp and use it on 17 and even 12 on occasion. If the guy you
are trying to work can't copy me, I use the amp. I'm sure every amp owner
does the same thing. This is NOT the same as automatically cranking you the
power every time one turns on the rig - and that was the (attempted) point
of my original message.

73

Paul AB0SI



[email protected] September 11th 03 05:22 PM

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:B718b.24947$n94.10212@fed1read04...
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner

that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do

particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All



Just for record, I was the wide guy who made a disparaging comment about
amps on the WARC bands and starting this whole thing I'm afraid. My comments
were an attempt at irony directed at:
1) CB amps that spray RF 10KHz in all directions (up, down, and for all
I know into undreamed of directions)
2) Overmodulated amplified signals (results similar to the above; often
combined with the above)
3) Folks who run amps when rag chewing when they are not necessary (If
your QSO partner tells you that you are "40 over 9" it seems reasonable to
me to reduce the power and take up less bandwidth).

I have a 1 KW amp and use it on 17 and even 12 on occasion. If the guy you
are trying to work can't copy me, I use the amp. I'm sure every amp owner
does the same thing. This is NOT the same as automatically cranking you the
power every time one turns on the rig - and that was the (attempted) point
of my original message.

73

Paul AB0SI



Caveat Lector September 11th 03 05:36 PM

Very good Paul -- I agree with all of your comments

Thanks for the post.

QRP to QRO -- use prudently - sez the FCC and all responsible hams.

--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
-----------------------------------
" wrote in message
news:cj18b.417752$Ho3.65883@sccrnsc03...
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:B718b.24947$n94.10212@fed1read04...
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner

that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do

particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern

amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M

and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All



Just for record, I was the wide guy who made a disparaging comment about
amps on the WARC bands and starting this whole thing I'm afraid. My

comments
were an attempt at irony directed at:
1) CB amps that spray RF 10KHz in all directions (up, down, and for

all
I know into undreamed of directions)
2) Overmodulated amplified signals (results similar to the above;

often
combined with the above)
3) Folks who run amps when rag chewing when they are not necessary (If
your QSO partner tells you that you are "40 over 9" it seems reasonable to
me to reduce the power and take up less bandwidth).

I have a 1 KW amp and use it on 17 and even 12 on occasion. If the guy you
are trying to work can't copy me, I use the amp. I'm sure every amp owner
does the same thing. This is NOT the same as automatically cranking you

the
power every time one turns on the rig - and that was the (attempted) point
of my original message.

73

Paul AB0SI





Caveat Lector September 11th 03 05:36 PM

Very good Paul -- I agree with all of your comments

Thanks for the post.

QRP to QRO -- use prudently - sez the FCC and all responsible hams.

--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
-----------------------------------
" wrote in message
news:cj18b.417752$Ho3.65883@sccrnsc03...
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:B718b.24947$n94.10212@fed1read04...
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner

that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do

particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern

amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M

and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All



Just for record, I was the wide guy who made a disparaging comment about
amps on the WARC bands and starting this whole thing I'm afraid. My

comments
were an attempt at irony directed at:
1) CB amps that spray RF 10KHz in all directions (up, down, and for

all
I know into undreamed of directions)
2) Overmodulated amplified signals (results similar to the above;

often
combined with the above)
3) Folks who run amps when rag chewing when they are not necessary (If
your QSO partner tells you that you are "40 over 9" it seems reasonable to
me to reduce the power and take up less bandwidth).

I have a 1 KW amp and use it on 17 and even 12 on occasion. If the guy you
are trying to work can't copy me, I use the amp. I'm sure every amp owner
does the same thing. This is NOT the same as automatically cranking you

the
power every time one turns on the rig - and that was the (attempted) point
of my original message.

73

Paul AB0SI





Caveat Lector September 11th 03 07:18 PM

Ah Sir Walter -- dully noted on UK 30M power level -- but what is the max
over there ??

Your LaJolla, CA Contact
Just A Signal In The Noise these days
ANON out of necessity


--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:10:09 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern

amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Would you please bear in mind that this is an international newsgroup.
USA power regulations do not apply worldwide. In the United Kingdom,
for example, the power on 30m is not limited to 200 watts.

Thank you for your consideration.

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com




Caveat Lector September 11th 03 07:18 PM

Ah Sir Walter -- dully noted on UK 30M power level -- but what is the max
over there ??

Your LaJolla, CA Contact
Just A Signal In The Noise these days
ANON out of necessity


--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:10:09 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern

amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Would you please bear in mind that this is an international newsgroup.
USA power regulations do not apply worldwide. In the United Kingdom,
for example, the power on 30m is not limited to 200 watts.

Thank you for your consideration.

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com




John Passaneau September 11th 03 11:43 PM

Of Course!

Life is too short for QRP!



--
John Passaneau W3JXP
State College, Pa


PS an SB220 works quite well on the WARC bands.

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:B718b.24947$n94.10212@fed1read04...
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner

that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do

particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All





John Passaneau September 11th 03 11:43 PM

Of Course!

Life is too short for QRP!



--
John Passaneau W3JXP
State College, Pa


PS an SB220 works quite well on the WARC bands.

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:B718b.24947$n94.10212@fed1read04...
In another NG, someone claimed that he did not know a single Amp owner

that
used their linear on the WARC bands. I know many DXers that do

particularly
on 12 and 17M, so lets see what this group has to say.

On 12M and 17M have you ever used your Linear ??

On 30M the power is limited to 200 Watts as we all know -- but modern amps
will tune up on 30M and one can drive it to 200 Watts (CW and FSK Only)

and
still be in limits. Not all exciters are 100 Watts! Have you ever done
this??


Me -- you betcha red ryder -- I use an AL-80B on the WARC bands -- 12M and
17m when I have to.
Don't use it on 30m tho.
Vertical here -- need all the help I can get.

But have worked DXCC-QRP -- so I have done QRP to QRO - hi hi.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All





K7SAM September 12th 03 12:07 AM

Nope, the 'ole Yaesu FL-2100B won't go there, so, that takes care of that
little problem.



K7SAM September 12th 03 12:07 AM

Nope, the 'ole Yaesu FL-2100B won't go there, so, that takes care of that
little problem.



Caveat Lector September 12th 03 02:01 AM

Sir Walter -- interesting on the power level differences.

And I posted the link you offered -- under frequencies/bandplans

Let us know of your next visit to California -- would very much enjoy
meeting with you again.

Til then 73 From The Signal In The Noise
----------------------------------------------------------------
"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:18:03 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:

Ah Sir Walter -- duly noted on UK 30M power level -- but what is the max
over there ??

Your LaJolla, CA Contact
Just A Signal In The Noise these days
ANON out of necessity


Oh ... hi Rod, my old mate! I didn't realise it was you. :-) You
caught me napping that time.

It's 400 watts output (measured at the antenna feedpoint), the same as
on all bands between 3.5 MHz and 51.0 MHz. Also, there is no
mandatory mode restriction on the 10.1 MHz band here in Europe, but we
are "requested" to use only narrow-bandwidth modes. Most UK operators
do honor that request. However, there is a lot of SSB operation on
the 10.1 MHz band from France ... which is frowned upon by other users
of the band.

Full UK licence regulations are he

http://www.radio.gov.uk/publication/...68r11/br68.htm

73,
Walt (G3NYY)

P.S. I succeeded in graduating with First Class Honours this summer.
:-)))

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com




Caveat Lector September 12th 03 02:01 AM

Sir Walter -- interesting on the power level differences.

And I posted the link you offered -- under frequencies/bandplans

Let us know of your next visit to California -- would very much enjoy
meeting with you again.

Til then 73 From The Signal In The Noise
----------------------------------------------------------------
"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:18:03 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:

Ah Sir Walter -- duly noted on UK 30M power level -- but what is the max
over there ??

Your LaJolla, CA Contact
Just A Signal In The Noise these days
ANON out of necessity


Oh ... hi Rod, my old mate! I didn't realise it was you. :-) You
caught me napping that time.

It's 400 watts output (measured at the antenna feedpoint), the same as
on all bands between 3.5 MHz and 51.0 MHz. Also, there is no
mandatory mode restriction on the 10.1 MHz band here in Europe, but we
are "requested" to use only narrow-bandwidth modes. Most UK operators
do honor that request. However, there is a lot of SSB operation on
the 10.1 MHz band from France ... which is frowned upon by other users
of the band.

Full UK licence regulations are he

http://www.radio.gov.uk/publication/...68r11/br68.htm

73,
Walt (G3NYY)

P.S. I succeeded in graduating with First Class Honours this summer.
:-)))

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com




[email protected] September 12th 03 07:08 PM

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:43:38 GMT, John Passaneau wrote:
Of Course!

Life is too short for QRP!


[snip good UK info]

QRP works! i do have to wonder though about those fellas (and US hams
seem to be worst offenders) who feel they have to use 1kW when 100W
would do...

so i guess my 100W txcvr is QRP to a linear nut? and my ft-817 is
uQRP?





[email protected] September 12th 03 07:08 PM

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:43:38 GMT, John Passaneau wrote:
Of Course!

Life is too short for QRP!


[snip good UK info]

QRP works! i do have to wonder though about those fellas (and US hams
seem to be worst offenders) who feel they have to use 1kW when 100W
would do...

so i guess my 100W txcvr is QRP to a linear nut? and my ft-817 is
uQRP?





Joe O'Connell September 19th 03 11:04 PM

Dont own one.got 284 confirmed on 12m with 100 watts and wire antennas.Who
needs an amp?
Joe
W7KQU



Joe O'Connell September 19th 03 11:04 PM

Dont own one.got 284 confirmed on 12m with 100 watts and wire antennas.Who
needs an amp?
Joe
W7KQU



Caveat Lector September 20th 03 03:13 PM

Wow -- very impressive -- shows what can be done.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"Joe O'Connell" wrote in message
...
Dont own one.got 284 confirmed on 12m with 100 watts and wire antennas.Who
needs an amp?
Joe
W7KQU





Caveat Lector September 20th 03 03:13 PM

Wow -- very impressive -- shows what can be done.
--
73 From The Signal In The Noise
Caveat Lector Ya All
"Joe O'Connell" wrote in message
...
Dont own one.got 284 confirmed on 12m with 100 watts and wire antennas.Who
needs an amp?
Joe
W7KQU






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