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More on the NATO Phonetics
As a matter of reference -- see URL:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet Sez NATO phonetic alphabet From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The NATO phonetic alphabet was developed in the 1950s to be intelligible (and pronounceable) to all NATO allies in the heat of battle. It replaced other phonetic alphabets, for example the US military Joint Army/Navy Phonetic Alphabet ("able baker") and several versions of RAF phonetic alphabets. It is sometimes inappropriately referred to as International Phonetic Alphabet, which is actually the official name of an alphabet used in linguistics created in the late nineteeth century. The NATO phonetic alphabet is now widely used in business and telecommunications in Europe and North America, and has been approved by ICAO for use in international civil aviation. It has been adopted by the International Telegraphers Union (ITU), after which it is named by many radio operators. Although it consists of English words, its letter codewords can easily be recognised by speakers of languages other than English. -- 73 From The Signal In The Noise Caveat Lector Ya All |
Caveat Lector wrote:
It has been adopted by the International Telegraphers Union (ITU) The what? -- Anti-spam measu look me up on qrz.com if you need to reply directly |
Caveat Lector wrote:
It has been adopted by the International Telegraphers Union (ITU) The what? -- Anti-spam measu look me up on qrz.com if you need to reply directly |
Guess old Caveat is a CW guy
International Telecommunication Union "Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message ... Caveat Lector wrote: It has been adopted by the International Telegraphers Union (ITU) The what? |
Guess old Caveat is a CW guy
International Telecommunication Union "Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message ... Caveat Lector wrote: It has been adopted by the International Telegraphers Union (ITU) The what? |
Except Dutch and Spanish speakers, to whom "golf" is neither
pronounceable nor intelligible! Even "mike" can be problematic at times. 73 de Walt (Veeskey Alfa Lima Tango) G3NYY I also have a hard time distinguishing between Sierra and Zulu when used by JAs - it may be partly the R/L confusion. Derek aa5bt |
Except Dutch and Spanish speakers, to whom "golf" is neither
pronounceable nor intelligible! Even "mike" can be problematic at times. 73 de Walt (Veeskey Alfa Lima Tango) G3NYY I also have a hard time distinguishing between Sierra and Zulu when used by JAs - it may be partly the R/L confusion. Derek aa5bt |
Walt Davidson said :
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:34:30 -0700, "Caveat Lector" wrote: The NATO phonetic alphabet was developed in the 1950s to be intelligible (and pronounceable) to all NATO allies in the heat of battle ........ Although it consists of English words, its letter codewords can easily be recognised by speakers of languages other than English. Except Dutch and Spanish speakers, to whom "golf" is neither pronounceable nor intelligible! Even "mike" can be problematic at times. Heck, I wish I could find some other internationally-recoginsed phonetic for the letter i . Inmy experience, it's incredibly hard to get either India or Italy understood under marginal conditions. My suffix, IRT is usually mangled in contests and DX-peditions. The "Romeo Tango" bit comes through great, but the "India" gets lost. 73 de Peter, W2IRT (ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX) Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net |
Walt Davidson said :
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:34:30 -0700, "Caveat Lector" wrote: The NATO phonetic alphabet was developed in the 1950s to be intelligible (and pronounceable) to all NATO allies in the heat of battle ........ Although it consists of English words, its letter codewords can easily be recognised by speakers of languages other than English. Except Dutch and Spanish speakers, to whom "golf" is neither pronounceable nor intelligible! Even "mike" can be problematic at times. Heck, I wish I could find some other internationally-recoginsed phonetic for the letter i . Inmy experience, it's incredibly hard to get either India or Italy understood under marginal conditions. My suffix, IRT is usually mangled in contests and DX-peditions. The "Romeo Tango" bit comes through great, but the "India" gets lost. 73 de Peter, W2IRT (ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX) Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net |
That was the reason I went to a vanity call sign. My old call WB8EIY was
murder to get across. -- John Passaneau W3JXP State College, Pa "Peter Dougherty" wrote in message ... Walt Davidson said : On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:34:30 -0700, "Caveat Lector" wrote: The NATO phonetic alphabet was developed in the 1950s to be intelligible (and pronounceable) to all NATO allies in the heat of battle ........ Although it consists of English words, its letter codewords can easily be recognised by speakers of languages other than English. Except Dutch and Spanish speakers, to whom "golf" is neither pronounceable nor intelligible! Even "mike" can be problematic at times. Heck, I wish I could find some other internationally-recoginsed phonetic for the letter i . Inmy experience, it's incredibly hard to get either India or Italy understood under marginal conditions. My suffix, IRT is usually mangled in contests and DX-peditions. The "Romeo Tango" bit comes through great, but the "India" gets lost. 73 de Peter, W2IRT (ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX) Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net |
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Boy would that work well in a big pileup, Juliet x-ray papa is bad enough.
-- John Passaneau W3JXP State College Pa "Spurious Noise" wrote in message news:t85db.27751$Ms2.9893@fed1read03... Hmmm -- England, Italy, Yokohama didn't work??? -- 73 From the Spurious Noise ';';;';x":.,";"' "John Passaneau" wrote in message t... That was the reason I went to a vanity call sign. My old call WB8EIY was murder to get across. John Passaneau W3JXP State College, Pa |
Boy would that work well in a big pileup, Juliet x-ray papa is bad enough.
-- John Passaneau W3JXP State College Pa "Spurious Noise" wrote in message news:t85db.27751$Ms2.9893@fed1read03... Hmmm -- England, Italy, Yokohama didn't work??? -- 73 From the Spurious Noise ';';;';x":.,";"' "John Passaneau" wrote in message t... That was the reason I went to a vanity call sign. My old call WB8EIY was murder to get across. John Passaneau W3JXP State College, Pa |
I have been in and listened to thousands of pileups over the years and the
DXer phonetics are very commonly used. Is that right or wrong -- I don't know - but sure is a fact of DX life. And they seem to work as well as the NATO phonetics. Many many top gun DXers use them. Just listen to the pileups (:-( This is NOT to necessarily recommend or deny the practice -- just stating what many DXers use. Whether to use them or not is a separate issue. (Start a thread if you want!) FYI: I know several DXpeditioners who will not answer anyone using anything BUT NATO phonetics or to recognize those using "Lass Two" -- last two letters of the suffix. But You will hear some DX stations ask for "Lass Two". This also is common practice. (Sometime in 10 minutes one should give their full call - huh?) FYI: Unofficial DXer Phonetics, compiled after listening to more pileups than I care to remember (:-) a.. A......AMERICA, Amsterdam b.. B......BOSTON, Baltimore, Brazil c.. C......CANADA, Columbia, Chile d.. D......DENMARK e.. E......ENGLAND, Egypt f.. F......FRANCE, Finland g.. G.....GERMANY, Guatemala, Geneva, Greece h.. H.....HONOLULU, Hawaii i.. I.......ITALY j.. J......JAPAN k.. K......KILOWATT, Kentucky, King l.. L......LONDON, Lima, Luxembourg m.. M......MEXICO, Montreal n.. N......NORWAY, Nicaragua o.. O......ONTARIO, Ocean, p.. P......PORTUGAL, Pacific q.. Q......QUEBEC, Queen r.. R......RADIO, Romania, Russia s.. S......SANTIAGO, Spain, Sweden t.. T......TOKYO, Texas u.. U......UNITED, URUGUAY v.. V...... VICTORIA, Venezuela w.. W......WASHINGTON x.. X......X-RAY y.. Y......YOKOHAMA z.. Z...... ZANZIBAR, Zulu -- 73 From the Spurious Noise ';';;';x":.,";"' ============================================ "John Passaneau" wrote in message ... Boy would that work well in a big pileup, Juliet x-ray papa is bad enough. -- John Passaneau W3JXP State College Pa "Spurious Noise" wrote in message news:t85db.27751$Ms2.9893@fed1read03... Hmmm -- England, Italy, Yokohama didn't work??? -- 73 From the Spurious Noise ';';;';x":.,";"' "John Passaneau" wrote in message t... That was the reason I went to a vanity call sign. My old call WB8EIY was murder to get across. John Passaneau W3JXP State College, Pa |
I have been in and listened to thousands of pileups over the years and the
DXer phonetics are very commonly used. Is that right or wrong -- I don't know - but sure is a fact of DX life. And they seem to work as well as the NATO phonetics. Many many top gun DXers use them. Just listen to the pileups (:-( This is NOT to necessarily recommend or deny the practice -- just stating what many DXers use. Whether to use them or not is a separate issue. (Start a thread if you want!) FYI: I know several DXpeditioners who will not answer anyone using anything BUT NATO phonetics or to recognize those using "Lass Two" -- last two letters of the suffix. But You will hear some DX stations ask for "Lass Two". This also is common practice. (Sometime in 10 minutes one should give their full call - huh?) FYI: Unofficial DXer Phonetics, compiled after listening to more pileups than I care to remember (:-) a.. A......AMERICA, Amsterdam b.. B......BOSTON, Baltimore, Brazil c.. C......CANADA, Columbia, Chile d.. D......DENMARK e.. E......ENGLAND, Egypt f.. F......FRANCE, Finland g.. G.....GERMANY, Guatemala, Geneva, Greece h.. H.....HONOLULU, Hawaii i.. I.......ITALY j.. J......JAPAN k.. K......KILOWATT, Kentucky, King l.. L......LONDON, Lima, Luxembourg m.. M......MEXICO, Montreal n.. N......NORWAY, Nicaragua o.. O......ONTARIO, Ocean, p.. P......PORTUGAL, Pacific q.. Q......QUEBEC, Queen r.. R......RADIO, Romania, Russia s.. S......SANTIAGO, Spain, Sweden t.. T......TOKYO, Texas u.. U......UNITED, URUGUAY v.. V...... VICTORIA, Venezuela w.. W......WASHINGTON x.. X......X-RAY y.. Y......YOKOHAMA z.. Z...... ZANZIBAR, Zulu -- 73 From the Spurious Noise ';';;';x":.,";"' ============================================ "John Passaneau" wrote in message ... Boy would that work well in a big pileup, Juliet x-ray papa is bad enough. -- John Passaneau W3JXP State College Pa "Spurious Noise" wrote in message news:t85db.27751$Ms2.9893@fed1read03... Hmmm -- England, Italy, Yokohama didn't work??? -- 73 From the Spurious Noise ';';;';x":.,";"' "John Passaneau" wrote in message t... That was the reason I went to a vanity call sign. My old call WB8EIY was murder to get across. John Passaneau W3JXP State College, Pa |
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