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DX Pedition Site Visit
During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH),
James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) |
"M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
"M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right
by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen "9V1GO" wrote in message ... "M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right
by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen "9V1GO" wrote in message ... "M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
Yep, you got it, a trip to the IoM to operate badly and handle the small
pileups like real amateurs. NOT a DXpedition by any means. "Hellen Marsh" wrote in message news.com... Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen "9V1GO" wrote in message ... "M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
Yep, you got it, a trip to the IoM to operate badly and handle the small
pileups like real amateurs. NOT a DXpedition by any means. "Hellen Marsh" wrote in message news.com... Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen "9V1GO" wrote in message ... "M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
Helen -- The Isle of Man is an entity on the ARRL DX Country list -- thus
counts for DXCC credit -- see URL: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/dxcclist.txt GD, GT* Isle of Man EU 27 14 So this makes it very desirable for DX chasing. One source (Buckmaster) shows only 250 or so ham residents on the Isle Of Man. There are about 735,823 Hams in the USA alone -- so you can imagine the desirability. Now what constitutes a DXpedition ?? The term is used VERY loosely by the Ham community. Frequently it is indeed "little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them". On the other hand, Antarctica might well be touted as a DXpedition. But using google you will see folks using the term "DXpedition" to such places as Palestine, American Samoa, Jordan, Armenia, and many more "populous" places. In the loose sense -- it is any location that will put a rare DXCC entity or IOTA island location on the air. Some consider it a matter of money -- hence a DXpedition to Aruba has been seen. (;-) I have even seen a QRP DXpedition to the USA Sierra mountains -- go figure (:-( A far better term would be DX Operation -- see URL: http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/adxo.html Hope this helps as the term DXpedition is bandied about with out any strict definition. If I needed The Isle Of Man for my DXCC credit --(I don't) then perhaps it would be a DXpedition -- hi hi. -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- "Hellen Marsh" wrote in message news.com... Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen "9V1GO" wrote in message ... "M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
Helen -- The Isle of Man is an entity on the ARRL DX Country list -- thus
counts for DXCC credit -- see URL: http://www.arrl.org/awards/dxcc/dxcclist.txt GD, GT* Isle of Man EU 27 14 So this makes it very desirable for DX chasing. One source (Buckmaster) shows only 250 or so ham residents on the Isle Of Man. There are about 735,823 Hams in the USA alone -- so you can imagine the desirability. Now what constitutes a DXpedition ?? The term is used VERY loosely by the Ham community. Frequently it is indeed "little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them". On the other hand, Antarctica might well be touted as a DXpedition. But using google you will see folks using the term "DXpedition" to such places as Palestine, American Samoa, Jordan, Armenia, and many more "populous" places. In the loose sense -- it is any location that will put a rare DXCC entity or IOTA island location on the air. Some consider it a matter of money -- hence a DXpedition to Aruba has been seen. (;-) I have even seen a QRP DXpedition to the USA Sierra mountains -- go figure (:-( A far better term would be DX Operation -- see URL: http://www.ng3k.com/Misc/adxo.html Hope this helps as the term DXpedition is bandied about with out any strict definition. If I needed The Isle Of Man for my DXCC credit --(I don't) then perhaps it would be a DXpedition -- hi hi. -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- "Hellen Marsh" wrote in message news.com... Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen "9V1GO" wrote in message ... "M1LCR" wrote in message ... During the weekend of 15 and 16 May 2004, Steve (MW1STE), Mark (MW1MDH), James (M3JRP) and Adrian (M1LCR) will be visiting the Island for the purpose of a site survey, and to finalise arrangements. During the weekend, we will operate on HF, 50MHz and 144MHz. Listen for us on Saturday afternoon, from 2:30pm onwards on 50.115 MHz (USB) and 144.315 MHz (USB). We will be grateful for any contacts, particularly if the station we are working can supply QRA Locater and Receive System setup (Rig and Aerial). This is so we can ascertain what paths are available from our location. The callsign GD4WXM/P as well as individual operator callsigns will be used. We plan HF Activity to be on 3.5, 7 and 14 MHz, although this is a secondary objective. Check this page after 17 May for photographs and reports. See http://www.gb4iom.co.uk for further details. Adrian Rees (M1LCR) Another ****ant trip to bother people. You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. Bob 9V1GO |
On Mon, 24 May 2004 04:44:18 GMT, "Hellen Marsh"
wrote: Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen The importance of a DXpedition is the cumulative imagination of the participants combined with the cumulative imagination of the post card chasing, basement bound slobs (aka "the deserving") who need a new card for their shoebox..... The real world importance of ANY DXpedition, be it to Good Grief Reef or Staton Island, is ZERO. Since ham radio is but a game played by oversized children with expensive toys, a DXpedition can be anywhere the participants desire it to be - you can go on a DXpedition to your back yard if you'd like, Helen. The word "DXpedition" was invented by the children who play ham radio - it's not found in the dictionary, nor defined in Part 97, so the definition is anything you want it to be..... What these guys are doing deserves SPECIAL RECOGNITION - not because of the local of the DXpedition, or the amount of equipment they are taking along, but because they aren't begging for money to pay for their trip, as do most groups of DXpeditioning children. What a concept - some guys are gonna pack up their radio stuff and go on vacation to an island for a week or so and have fun and are going to pay for it themselves. Unheard of in the world of ham radio DXpeditions..... So anyway, Helen, the answer to your question is YES, you are missing something - you are missing the concept of what a DXpedition is, and why people go. You should plan one, and go see what it's like first hand. When you decide to go on that DXpedition to your back yard, be sure and invite that groucy old ******* from Singapore to go along - sounds like he needs to get out of the house more often. 73, Jim KH2D |
On Mon, 24 May 2004 04:44:18 GMT, "Hellen Marsh"
wrote: Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen The importance of a DXpedition is the cumulative imagination of the participants combined with the cumulative imagination of the post card chasing, basement bound slobs (aka "the deserving") who need a new card for their shoebox..... The real world importance of ANY DXpedition, be it to Good Grief Reef or Staton Island, is ZERO. Since ham radio is but a game played by oversized children with expensive toys, a DXpedition can be anywhere the participants desire it to be - you can go on a DXpedition to your back yard if you'd like, Helen. The word "DXpedition" was invented by the children who play ham radio - it's not found in the dictionary, nor defined in Part 97, so the definition is anything you want it to be..... What these guys are doing deserves SPECIAL RECOGNITION - not because of the local of the DXpedition, or the amount of equipment they are taking along, but because they aren't begging for money to pay for their trip, as do most groups of DXpeditioning children. What a concept - some guys are gonna pack up their radio stuff and go on vacation to an island for a week or so and have fun and are going to pay for it themselves. Unheard of in the world of ham radio DXpeditions..... So anyway, Helen, the answer to your question is YES, you are missing something - you are missing the concept of what a DXpedition is, and why people go. You should plan one, and go see what it's like first hand. When you decide to go on that DXpedition to your back yard, be sure and invite that groucy old ******* from Singapore to go along - sounds like he needs to get out of the house more often. 73, Jim KH2D |
"Hellen Marsh" writes:
Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen A DXpedition is a amateur radio dedicated trip to anyplace where there's some demand for contacts from the particpants in the game we play. IOM isn't common on the satellites, and for a while wasn't terribly common on RTTY, so a DXpedition would be appropriate. Also, it's a relatively rare prefix, so a DXpedition there for any of the WPX contests is appropriate. EI isn't uncommon in any mode. But there are islands off the coast of Washington state that do rate a DXpedition for island collectors. And probably counties and grid squares in the state for people who collect those contacts. In spite of what some people think, this is a not unworthy game we play. 73, doug MD0BPI (once upon a time), also K1B, T33C and 3D2CI |
"Hellen Marsh" writes:
Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen A DXpedition is a amateur radio dedicated trip to anyplace where there's some demand for contacts from the particpants in the game we play. IOM isn't common on the satellites, and for a while wasn't terribly common on RTTY, so a DXpedition would be appropriate. Also, it's a relatively rare prefix, so a DXpedition there for any of the WPX contests is appropriate. EI isn't uncommon in any mode. But there are islands off the coast of Washington state that do rate a DXpedition for island collectors. And probably counties and grid squares in the state for people who collect those contacts. In spite of what some people think, this is a not unworthy game we play. 73, doug MD0BPI (once upon a time), also K1B, T33C and 3D2CI |
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"Hellen Marsh" wrote in message tnews.com...
Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen Helen, I was thinking about activating Ohio next weekend. If I do, I'll give further details in my next post. bb |
"Hellen Marsh" wrote in message tnews.com...
Am I missing something? Isn't Isle of Man a modern populous island right by England and Scotland? I mean, isn't it a 'normal place'? What makes this a DX-Pedition? Does that mean if I travel from Seattle to, say, Ireland, and set up a ham station that I'm a DX-pedition?? What am I missing here? I thought DX peditions happened on little coral outcroppings and remote islands with no resorts on them..... Hardly Isle of Man.... Helen Helen, I was thinking about activating Ohio next weekend. If I do, I'll give further details in my next post. bb |
In article , Doug Faunt N6TQS
+1-510-655-8604 wrote: A DXpedition is a amateur radio dedicated trip to anyplace where there's some demand for contacts from the particpants in the game we play. IOM isn't common on the satellites, and for a while wasn't terribly common on RTTY, so a DXpedition would be appropriate. Also, it's a relatively rare prefix, so a DXpedition there for any of the WPX contests is appropriate. EI isn't uncommon in any mode. It also depends upon what you want. A DXpedition to a fairly common area seems like a waste of time, but it may not be for the people who need that particular country on a specific band and mode. For example, I live in Israel. Not a very rare catch, but for someone starting out a weekend U.S. time operation on 10 meters when it's open would allow them to get a new country. Especialy if the station operates in English and at 5-10 wpm CW. Someone coming here for a week or two could do several hundred contacts and make a lot of new hams happy. So next time you plan a vacation, think about making it a DXpedition. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson |
Not so far fetched as one might think -- if you can determine which county
in Ohio has the lowest population (Ham Wise) -- you can put that county on the air and get a lot of action from the county hunters. Dxpedition to Morrow County, Ohio (:-) For a real challenge -- drive thru all Ohio counties as a rover and give out Worked all Ohio county awards (:-) Some Hams have done this while on vacation!!! Might qualify as a "Worked all Ohio Counties DXpedition" 88 counties in Ohio Or a rare Ohio grid square -- the VHFers will pile up on you. An Ohio's rarest grid square Dxpedition (:-) Or a special event station commemorating the closing of the Ohio steel mills and rubber plants. Dxpedition to Ohio's crumbling steel mills (:-) With these you can be the pileupor instead of the pileupee. Great for the ego and improve your contest skills. If you live in the Indian ocean area-- Hocking County, Ohio might well be rare DX (:-) All in good fun -- or is it good DX -- ear of the beholder huh -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" Helen, I was thinking about activating Ohio next weekend. If I do, I'll give further details in my next post. bb |
Not so far fetched as one might think -- if you can determine which county
in Ohio has the lowest population (Ham Wise) -- you can put that county on the air and get a lot of action from the county hunters. Dxpedition to Morrow County, Ohio (:-) For a real challenge -- drive thru all Ohio counties as a rover and give out Worked all Ohio county awards (:-) Some Hams have done this while on vacation!!! Might qualify as a "Worked all Ohio Counties DXpedition" 88 counties in Ohio Or a rare Ohio grid square -- the VHFers will pile up on you. An Ohio's rarest grid square Dxpedition (:-) Or a special event station commemorating the closing of the Ohio steel mills and rubber plants. Dxpedition to Ohio's crumbling steel mills (:-) With these you can be the pileupor instead of the pileupee. Great for the ego and improve your contest skills. If you live in the Indian ocean area-- Hocking County, Ohio might well be rare DX (:-) All in good fun -- or is it good DX -- ear of the beholder huh -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" Helen, I was thinking about activating Ohio next weekend. If I do, I'll give further details in my next post. bb |
"9V1GO" wrote You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. In truth, they know EXACTLY what a DXpedition is. It is a guy, a couple of guys, or a battalion sized group of guys, off to another county, another country, or an uncharted rock, simply to play radio for the fun of playing radio. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"9V1GO" wrote You have no idea what a DXpedition is my friend. In truth, they know EXACTLY what a DXpedition is. It is a guy, a couple of guys, or a battalion sized group of guys, off to another county, another country, or an uncharted rock, simply to play radio for the fun of playing radio. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"Hellen Marsh" wrote Am I missing something? Yes, you are. And merely by asking, you have demonstrated that you wouldn't understand the answer. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"Hellen Marsh" wrote Am I missing something? Yes, you are. And merely by asking, you have demonstrated that you wouldn't understand the answer. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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