What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul -- Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec Maidenhead Locator DO33gk |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
USPS Air to South Africa takes 4 days from California. Customs is handled by
them and it is extremely easy to use. Great service. Americocentric sellers maybe? -- Pete . . ZS5ACT Top poster & proud of it! ------ Reply Separator ------ "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Paul Hinman" wrote in message news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no... I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that (even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.-- Say no to institutionalized interference.Just say NO to HD/IBOC! |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
Hmmm???
Hawaii is too hot? Canada is too big? Alaska is just right!! But this doesn't respond to the hypothesis. /s/ DD Paul Hinman wrote: I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
Brenda Ann wrote:
Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that (even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.-- That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service provided by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was delivered to a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using U.S. milltary transport, There was a good chance that the mail would actually arrive and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent via the regular postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the tab. Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out. As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small sellers don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't want the risk. If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get delivered, they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul even has more problems because Canadian customs may hold an item to determine its value, or if it can be legally imported as long as they wish. They can also assess the value for sales and other taxes. Obviously he never has had any experience clearing an item through customs. If he had he would have praised the low fees, speedy processing and general reliablity of the courier services. Considering the general quality of things sold on eBay, the sellers are actually doing you a favor. While many of the sellers will attempt to keep you satisfied, if you have to wait a month for something to arrive and in Paul's case pay GST (general sales tax), import duty and customs clearing fees, then have to send it back, he would loose a lot. Besides paying for shipping both ways, he would have to pay customs clearing fees at the U.S. border and prove that the item he is sending back was actually being returned to the U.S. as a defective purchase and not scamming the customs people by claiming it was. This means that some items both of you either have to keep or pay for and never get no matter what it costs. Where do you draw the line? $100, $200, $500? If it costs $100 to ship a radio to you and $100 to send it back, it does not make much sense. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ |
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:15:13 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: Been here six years, and have NEVER had anything shipped to me USPS that hasn't gotten here, and if it was properly packed, it has always gotten here in one piece. I pay for Priority Mail shipping, which now is only a dollar or two more than Parcel, and I get it here in a week to 10 days. And actually, the USPS takes our mail as far as San Francisco via regular channels, and from there it's shipped commercial air (just like any other air mail) to our local APO hub, and then to the mail rooms. I have been sending to an APO for several years as my son's family is in Europe. I agree that the USPS service has been very good. They once lost a Jeep wheel for 3 months, but eventually it too made it to the destination. I see all kinds of companies that won't ship to an APO. I think they just don't want to deal with the customs forms. It can be a PITA. In spite of using USPS for years to ship to the same APO, about half the time I end up with the wrong form, and have to fill out another one after I get to the P.O. I even wrote to USPS to ask how I can tell for sure which form to use. Their very lengthy and convoluted answer didn't help a bit. It still ends up as a case-by-case basis on whether to use the short form or the long form. I can fully understand why people and companies don't want to ship to an APO. Dick |
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"Pete" wrote in
: USPS Air to South Africa takes 4 days from California. Customs is handled by them and it is extremely easy to use. Great service. Americocentric sellers maybe? I think so. And what happens to them is that they have to sell to a buyer who might not be willing to pay quite as much as I am. Their loss. And I've had more trouble with "ugly American" sellers than with any other kind. One ripped me off outright for over $300 for some software. The other is a non-shipper of some ham radio bits that I bought. I had less trouble buying from Greece! One thing I do tend to do is look for the same item in my own country (Canada) for the simple reason that it's a straight pay-and-get-it-in-the- mail kind of deal, whereas border costs can add to a price. -- Dave Oldridge+ ICQ 1800667 |
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What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
The only possible problem is loss or damage. USPS air delivers in a few days and for a reasonable border fee, most of which is sales tax at this The issue is cost, I believe. For some reason sellers dont want to pay the cost to the last two states, EVEN IF THE BUYER IS FRONTING THE FEES DOnt know why. I have shipped to Hawaii several times with no issues at all other than time. I have had no problems with Canada, other than time. Sometimes it takes an inordinate amount of time . But you can accept that if BOTH parties are good communicators. Keep in touch with your seller or buyer, dont just fail to respond. It makes them nervous, folks. Mark K8VF Michigan |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that (even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.-- That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service provided by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was delivered to a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using U.S. milltary transport, There was a good chance that the mail would actually arrive and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent via the regular postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the tab. Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out. As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small sellers don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't want the risk. If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get delivered, they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul even has more problems because Canadian customs may hold an item to determine its value, or if it can be legally imported as long as they wish. They can also assess the value for sales and other taxes. Obviously he never has had any experience clearing an item through customs. If he had he would have praised the low fees, speedy processing and general reliablity of the courier services. Considering the general quality of things sold on eBay, the sellers are actually doing you a favor. While many of the sellers will attempt to keep you satisfied, if you have to wait a month for something to arrive and in Paul's case pay GST (general sales tax), import duty and customs clearing fees, then have to send it back, he would loose a lot. Besides paying for shipping both ways, he would have to pay customs clearing fees at the U.S. border and prove that the item he is sending back was actually being returned to the U.S. as a defective purchase and not scamming the customs people by claiming it was. This means that some items both of you either have to keep or pay for and never get no matter what it costs. Where do you draw the line? $100, $200, $500? If it costs $100 to ship a radio to you and $100 to send it back, it does not make much sense. Geoff. I recently recieved three packages, one from the US via FEDEX GROUND, another from the US via USPS, and another from Canada via Canada Post. They all arrived in less than a week, and I paid no customs. There are no customs duties for ham radio equipment. Paul -- Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec Maidenhead Locator DO33gk |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Paul Hinman wrote: I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul My sentiments exactly Paul. Its ridiculous we either are part of the USA or we are'nt. Those catalogs that say "extra chipping costs to Hawaii/Pr/Alaska etc I give them the deep six. Joe |
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What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:34 GMT, Paul Hinman
wrote: I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul \ As for canada, there is a problem with tracking. At least a couple of years ago, the cost of tracking a package, when possible, was horrendously high. In the case of the US mail or Fedex, it was impossible. I shipped to canada and the buyer said he didn't get it. He sent a very impolite letter the day I noticed all other items shipped that day arrived. I know he received it and later admitted that it was shipped to the wrong address, which I know better. Not being able to track makes for a risk that I was unwilling to handle at the time, so I cut out shipping to canada. As for hawaii and alaska, tracking and shipping costs were terrible to those places as well. Some items can't be shipped by air and would be shipped by ship requiring a time delay in which, again, thieves take advantage of and get their refund. The combination of eBay and Paypal creates a haven for thieves in those areas and others. They favor the buyer and it will ultimately cost the seller more in the long run. APO and FPO can't be tracked either. Tracking is a requirement for the eBay/paypal so-called protection. I was once a gi. Gi's move. Sometimes it takes a long while for the gi to receive mail that has to follow him/her. I realize that the problems are caused by the 'few', but they create a risk or null out certain protective clauses in contracts. SOme businesses can afford to go through the extra effort, wait the extra time or live with the occasional loss. A business that loses one sale in a hundred can afford the loss better than an individual who stands to lose one in the only one or two sales they make. Ebay/paypal is too protective for the buyers and not the sellers. The law is too difficult to motivate for most of the little sales that originate from ebay. Thieves know this and take advantage of this at every opportunity they can. Buck n4pgw -- 73 for now Buck N4PGW |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
My sentiments exactly Paul. Its ridiculous we either are part of the USA or we are'nt. Those catalogs that say "extra chipping costs to Hawaii/Pr/Alaska etc I give them the deep six. Joe But the costs are extra to those businesses. shipping to those states/territories are higher than cross-continent shipping. -- 73 for now Buck N4PGW |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:07:58 -0400, Buck wrote:
As for canada, there is a problem with tracking. At least a couple of years ago, the cost of tracking a package, when possible, was horrendously high. In the case of the US mail or Fedex, it was impossible. I shipped to canada and the buyer said he didn't get it. He sent a very impolite letter the day I noticed all other items shipped that day arrived. I know he received it and later admitted that it was shipped to the wrong address, which I know better. Not being able to track makes for a risk that I was unwilling to handle at the time, so I cut out shipping to canada. [snip middle details] Ebay/paypal is too protective for the buyers and not the sellers. The law is too difficult to motivate for most of the little sales that originate from ebay. Thieves know this and take advantage of this at every opportunity they can. Buck n4pgw -- 73 for now Buck N4PGW Well explained. Not my issue anyway, but I never heard about all that. |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
Buck wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:34 GMT, Paul Hinman wrote: I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul \ As for canada, there is a problem with tracking. At least a couple of years ago, the cost of tracking a package, when possible, was horrendously high. In the case of the US mail or Fedex, it was impossible. I shipped to canada and the buyer said he didn't get it. He sent a very impolite letter the day I noticed all other items shipped that day arrived. I know he received it and later admitted that it was shipped to the wrong address, which I know better. Not being able to track makes for a risk that I was unwilling to handle at the time, so I cut out shipping to canada. As for hawaii and alaska, tracking and shipping costs were terrible to those places as well. Some items can't be shipped by air and would be shipped by ship requiring a time delay in which, again, thieves take advantage of and get their refund. The combination of eBay and Paypal creates a haven for thieves in those areas and others. They favor the buyer and it will ultimately cost the seller more in the long run. APO and FPO can't be tracked either. Tracking is a requirement for the eBay/paypal so-called protection. I was once a gi. Gi's move. Sometimes it takes a long while for the gi to receive mail that has to follow him/her. I realize that the problems are caused by the 'few', but they create a risk or null out certain protective clauses in contracts. SOme businesses can afford to go through the extra effort, wait the extra time or live with the occasional loss. A business that loses one sale in a hundred can afford the loss better than an individual who stands to lose one in the only one or two sales they make. Ebay/paypal is too protective for the buyers and not the sellers. The law is too difficult to motivate for most of the little sales that originate from ebay. Thieves know this and take advantage of this at every opportunity they can. Buck n4pgw The tracking is not a problem, FEDEX tracking works across the borders and the USPS and Canada Post tracking systems interface with each other using the tracking number issued at the point of mailing. -- Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec Maidenhead Locator DO33gk |
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:06:59 GMT, Paul Hinman
wrote: The tracking is not a problem, FEDEX tracking works across the borders and the USPS and Canada Post tracking systems interface with each other using the tracking number issued at the point of mailing. Things may have changed, but when I tried to get tracking and/or proof of delivery, I couldn't get it and got ripped off. -- 73 for now Buck N4PGW |
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Buck wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:06:59 GMT, Paul Hinman wrote: The tracking is not a problem, FEDEX tracking works across the borders and the USPS and Canada Post tracking systems interface with each other using the tracking number issued at the point of mailing. Things may have changed, but when I tried to get tracking and/or proof of delivery, I couldn't get it and got ripped off. yea, don't believe FedEx when they say they deliver to Alaska....They only deliver to Anchortown, Fairbanks, and Juneau..... for all the bush villages and towns, FedEx gets turned over to the USPS in Anchorage for delivery, and there is NO Tracking after that...... FedEx SUCKS for Alaska delivery..... Lost a Laptop to there system, no refund, or claim was ever paid. got a letter from the Manager saying, "So Sorry for your loss, I feel your pain." I'd like to give him a bit of my pain, right in the ***........ |
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"Paul Hinman" wrote in message
news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no... I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul Paul, The reason is very straightforward. This is a boatanchor newsgroup and it's mostly geezers who deal in old radios. Geezers live in the past; WE don't think critically; the same tired thoughts cycle through our heads. Even worse, many of us hallucinate and make up reasons. You'll see several in this thread. Many geezers (to be fair, not all) are Xeno-phobic. To them, Hawai'i is FAR away and never having been there, geezers imagine that it's a foreign country with different laws a strange language. In their minds, it's a not that far from Hawai'i to, say, Nigeria or Pakistan. Even if they could call the Honolulu police to report a deal gone bad, they would not be able to speak to them with finding a translater. On the other hand, a geezer thinks, OK, I'm in Virginia, if a $30 deal in Kansas goes bad, I'll just get in the Biscayne and drive over there tomorrow, demand my money. I have that recourse. People! As Paul says, Hawaii and Alaska are U.S. States. They have senators in Washington. They vote for the president. As far as the U.S.P.S, FedEx, and UPS are concerned, those states are, like, right over there. To Sprint and other fone companies, after 7 or 8 PM, just pick up your fone and those places are a free call. If you pay for wired service, it's 5 or 7 cents a minute. Here are some actual numbers from www.fedex.com 2 day service - 20 pounds Virginia to Kansas - $61.85 Virginia to California -$65.83 Virginia to Hawai'i - $66.87 2 day service - 60 pounds Virginia to Kansas - $151.93 Virginia to California -$166.63 Virginia to Hawai'i - $169.24 About the same price for 2nd day service. FedEx Ground service - 20 pounds Virginia to Kansas - $12.70 - 4 days Virginia to California -$16.03 - 4 days Virginia to Hawai'i - $48.22 - 7 days FedEx Ground service - 60 pounds Virginia to Kansas - $28.40 - 4 days Virginia to California -$39.08 - 4 days Virginia to Hawai'i - $114.63 - 7 days Three days longer and more dollars going ground to Hawai'i. But then Buyer Pays Shipping! The same tracking and return receipt, the same laws govern the business deal. It takes about the same amount of time. The reason that they say "lower 48" is that they think it's still 1936. It just comes out. There's no reason other than old thoughts cycling in old heads like regeneration in a triode. It's like hollarin' out, Kids these days! You call that music! Dag-nabbit! I've bought items from Canada and sold to Canada. One thing I don't like about it is that it's expensive to ship across the border. In fact, it's cheaper to ship though Canada to Alaska. But then, buyer pays. I just had the experience of buying from China, a DEGEN DE1103. If you don't have one, go over to the Bay and look up the seller LIYPN. $44 for the radio and $24 shipping and insurance. Took about 8 days to get here. This is the best pocket shortware radio. Check out the reviews on the web. 1 kHz readout, better than 1 uV sensitivity, stable, 4 and 6 kHz filters. Covers 100 kHz to 30 mHz continuous so you can listen to AM broadcast, 160 meters, everything! I can sit in my car, pull out the whip antenna and copy 7040 CW in the evening. I heard W1AW CW the other day, this is in Virginia. SSB sounds good. Well, mostly good. I still can't understand the hollarin' on 27,000. While you're buying and enjoying the DEGEN, think about global commerce and the fact that you just traded with a real foreign country. de ah6gi/4 |
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kh wrote:
On the other hand, a geezer thinks, OK, I'm in Virginia, if a $30 deal in Kansas goes bad, I'll just get in the Biscayne and drive over there tomorrow, demand my money. I have that recourse. While spending $400 for gasoline? -- 73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp |
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"kh" wrote ...
The reason is very straightforward. This is a boatanchor newsgroup and it's mostly geezers who deal in old radios. Geezers live in the past; WE don't think critically; the same tired thoughts cycle through our heads. Even worse, many of us hallucinate and make up reasons. You'll see several in this thread. Including your own posting, apparently. I've bought items from Canada and sold to Canada. One thing I don't like about it is that it's expensive to ship across the border. In fact, it's cheaper to ship though Canada to Alaska. But then, buyer pays. Unless something goes wrong. The abuse of international transactions is legendary. Even eBay, PayPal, et.al. seem to acknowledge it. As another poster observed, if you are a large-volume commercial vendor, you can "eat" the occasional transaction gone wrong. But if you are selling one-off things (boat-anchors or not) on eBay, etc. it has a significant chilling effect, no matter what generation you represent. |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
I ship to anyone that wants to pay for it. I do avoid APO/FPO shipping, and
not because of scams but because of very very poor delivery chances on anything not a 1 ounce letter. I sent several boxes of supplies to friends serving in Iraq with the US Marine Corps...most of the boxes languished in a warehouse in Germany for about 4 weeks before being hauled to Iraq...then it was another 2 or 3 weeks befire they actually got the stuff. Needless to say, never ship a puppy or kitten to a war zone. I have one realative that was in Iraq for a year (the last time). I mailed him a Christmas package at the end of October. He got home in February and still hadn't received it. I ship DX but the buyer has to pay for the shipping. -- ========================================= Radio Amateurs - Fill your junk box, from my junkbox! http://www.hamradparts.com 73 de KB9BVN ========================================= "Paul Hinman" wrote in message news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no... I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul -- Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec Maidenhead Locator DO33gk |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
What I've done sending goodies to our troops is to use the flat rate Priority Boxes available free at the post office. All you can stuff into it for the 2 pounds rate or $8.10. Mose have been delivered within a couple weeks. If interested might check out http://www.anysolder.com 73 Bob W7AVK |
What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
"Paul Hinman" wrote in message news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no... I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay. All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees. So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not. I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us. Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience. Paul -- Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec Maidenhead Locator DO33gk |
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