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Carl Franck December 28th 03 01:30 AM

Astron RS-20A Problem
 
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV

Nitespark December 28th 03 01:37 AM



Carl Franck wrote:
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
pretty inexpensive and readily available.

Andy
WD4KDN




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Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can’t be wrong.


Nitespark December 28th 03 01:37 AM



Carl Franck wrote:
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
pretty inexpensive and readily available.

Andy
WD4KDN




--
Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can’t be wrong.


Carl Franck December 28th 03 04:19 AM

Carl Franck wrote:

Thanks for the fast help Andy!, Carl

: Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
: blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
: reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
: for first as I try to repair it.
: Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV

Carl Franck December 28th 03 04:19 AM

Carl Franck wrote:

Thanks for the fast help Andy!, Carl

: Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
: blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
: reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
: for first as I try to repair it.
: Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV

N0DG December 28th 03 01:23 PM

I would first check the diodes between the transformer and filter cap.

To prevent causing more problems do service checking with a 100 watt light bulb
in series with the AC line. This bulb normaly should glow bright for a second
when power is applied (Chargine filter caps.) then fade to dim if all is ok.
(no load)
If it continues to be bright with no load on supply you still have problem.
This limits current thru transformer. Saves fuses and transformers or circuit
boards.

good luck,
Don

N0DG December 28th 03 01:23 PM

I would first check the diodes between the transformer and filter cap.

To prevent causing more problems do service checking with a 100 watt light bulb
in series with the AC line. This bulb normaly should glow bright for a second
when power is applied (Chargine filter caps.) then fade to dim if all is ok.
(no load)
If it continues to be bright with no load on supply you still have problem.
This limits current thru transformer. Saves fuses and transformers or circuit
boards.

good luck,
Don

Carl Franck December 28th 03 10:01 PM

N0DG wrote:

Thanks for those ideas Don. It's hard to believe that I threw away
several fuses yesterday, I'm sure your last suggestion will save me
real $. 73 de Carl KB2KDV



: I would first check the diodes between the transformer and filter cap.
:
: To prevent causing more problems do service checking with a 100 watt light bulb
: in series with the AC line. This bulb normaly should glow bright for a second
: when power is applied (Chargine filter caps.) then fade to dim if all is ok.
: (no load)
: If it continues to be bright with no load on supply you still have problem.
: This limits current thru transformer. Saves fuses and transformers or circuit
: boards.
:
: good luck,
: Don

Carl Franck December 28th 03 10:01 PM

N0DG wrote:

Thanks for those ideas Don. It's hard to believe that I threw away
several fuses yesterday, I'm sure your last suggestion will save me
real $. 73 de Carl KB2KDV



: I would first check the diodes between the transformer and filter cap.
:
: To prevent causing more problems do service checking with a 100 watt light bulb
: in series with the AC line. This bulb normaly should glow bright for a second
: when power is applied (Chargine filter caps.) then fade to dim if all is ok.
: (no load)
: If it continues to be bright with no load on supply you still have problem.
: This limits current thru transformer. Saves fuses and transformers or circuit
: boards.
:
: good luck,
: Don

Mark Russo December 29th 03 04:21 AM

Also check the bridge rectifier or the 4 diodes, don't recall what was in
there.
Maybe one or all are shorted?

Nitespark wrote:

Carl Franck wrote:
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
pretty inexpensive and readily available.

Andy
WD4KDN

--
Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can’t be wrong.



Mark Russo December 29th 03 04:21 AM

Also check the bridge rectifier or the 4 diodes, don't recall what was in
there.
Maybe one or all are shorted?

Nitespark wrote:

Carl Franck wrote:
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
pretty inexpensive and readily available.

Andy
WD4KDN

--
Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can’t be wrong.



Ghost Writer December 29th 03 03:18 PM

I had two of those go out on me in a week, caused by a brown out. BOTH
cases, the bridge went bad. The brown out affected nothing else. Not the
computers still on, radios, anything - but the Astron 20As fried. I'd
definitely go for the Bridge to check. G.W.


"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
Also check the bridge rectifier or the 4 diodes, don't recall what was in
there.
Maybe one or all are shorted?

Nitespark wrote:

Carl Franck wrote:
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
pretty inexpensive and readily available.

Andy
WD4KDN

--
Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can't be wrong.





Ghost Writer December 29th 03 03:18 PM

I had two of those go out on me in a week, caused by a brown out. BOTH
cases, the bridge went bad. The brown out affected nothing else. Not the
computers still on, radios, anything - but the Astron 20As fried. I'd
definitely go for the Bridge to check. G.W.


"Mark Russo" wrote in message
...
Also check the bridge rectifier or the 4 diodes, don't recall what was in
there.
Maybe one or all are shorted?

Nitespark wrote:

Carl Franck wrote:
Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
for first as I try to repair it.
Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
pretty inexpensive and readily available.

Andy
WD4KDN

--
Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can't be wrong.





Carl Franck December 29th 03 05:33 PM

Thanks very much G.W. and Mark, I suer appreciate the benefit of your
expeience, Carl


Ghost Writer wrote:


: I had two of those go out on me in a week, caused by a brown out. BOTH
: cases, the bridge went bad. The brown out affected nothing else. Not the
: computers still on, radios, anything - but the Astron 20As fried. I'd
: definitely go for the Bridge to check. G.W.
:
:
: "Mark Russo" wrote in message
: ...
: Also check the bridge rectifier or the 4 diodes, don't recall what was in
: there.
: Maybe one or all are shorted?
:
: Nitespark wrote:
:
: Carl Franck wrote:
: Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
: blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
: reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
: for first as I try to repair it.
: Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV
:
: Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
: one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
: until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
: Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
: crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
: regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
: pretty inexpensive and readily available.
:
: Andy
: WD4KDN
:
: --
: Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can't be wrong.
:
:
:

Carl Franck December 29th 03 05:33 PM

Thanks very much G.W. and Mark, I suer appreciate the benefit of your
expeience, Carl


Ghost Writer wrote:


: I had two of those go out on me in a week, caused by a brown out. BOTH
: cases, the bridge went bad. The brown out affected nothing else. Not the
: computers still on, radios, anything - but the Astron 20As fried. I'd
: definitely go for the Bridge to check. G.W.
:
:
: "Mark Russo" wrote in message
: ...
: Also check the bridge rectifier or the 4 diodes, don't recall what was in
: there.
: Maybe one or all are shorted?
:
: Nitespark wrote:
:
: Carl Franck wrote:
: Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
: blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
: reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
: for first as I try to repair it.
: Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV
:
: Possibly a bad pass transistor. Try pulling each pass transistor out
: one at a time (or pull them all out and put them back one at a time
: until you blow a fuse) or if you have a transistor checker, check them.
: Another possibility, is you are getting an over voltage and the
: crow-bar circuit is activated. This could be caused by a problem in the
: regulator circuit. Possibly a bad LM723 regulator IC. These chips are
: pretty inexpensive and readily available.
:
: Andy
: WD4KDN
:
: --
: Gun Control works!!! 3 million Holocaust victims can't be wrong.
:
:
:

Carl Franck December 31st 03 07:23 PM

Carl Franck wrote:
: Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
: blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
: reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
: for first as I try to repair it.
: Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Thanks again folks for all the super help and insight. I first did as
Mark, Don and Ghost Writer suggested. Sure enough, I have one of the
two bridge rectifiers shorted. I just got its replacement. I hope I
can be 1/10 as helpful to someone soon as you all you guys have been
for me. Happy New Year, Carl KB2KDV


Carl Franck December 31st 03 07:23 PM

Carl Franck wrote:
: Dear NewsReaders, I have a Astron RS-20A power supply that has started
: blowing its fuse even without a load. Until now it has been perfectly
: reliable. I would be much obliged for any advice as to what to look
: for first as I try to repair it.
: Sincerely, Carl KB2KDV


Thanks again folks for all the super help and insight. I first did as
Mark, Don and Ghost Writer suggested. Sure enough, I have one of the
two bridge rectifiers shorted. I just got its replacement. I hope I
can be 1/10 as helpful to someone soon as you all you guys have been
for me. Happy New Year, Carl KB2KDV



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