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OccamsRazor January 25th 04 10:38 PM

TS-450 SAT Battery
 
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73

Jim Leder January 26th 04 12:52 PM

Don't know if there is a direct holder that will fit, but what I did was
'outboard' a battery holder with a pair of wires. Of course the old holder
was removed, and the wires soldered into place. The 'new' holder is tucked
in the radio towards the back. To replace the battery, I pull the cover,
pull the new holder up and replace the battery and tuck the new battery back
into place. This procedure and idea is published on the Web, for a different
but similar Kenwood. Can't find it now.


"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73




Jim Leder January 26th 04 12:52 PM

Don't know if there is a direct holder that will fit, but what I did was
'outboard' a battery holder with a pair of wires. Of course the old holder
was removed, and the wires soldered into place. The 'new' holder is tucked
in the radio towards the back. To replace the battery, I pull the cover,
pull the new holder up and replace the battery and tuck the new battery back
into place. This procedure and idea is published on the Web, for a different
but similar Kenwood. Can't find it now.


"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73




Clif Holland January 26th 04 04:21 PM

How hard is it to solder in a battery every 10-15 years??

--
Clif Holland, KA5IPF
AVVid
Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center
816 W Shady Grove Rd
Irving, TX 75060

www.avvid.com

1-800-214-5779
972-870-0630 (Local)
"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73




Clif Holland January 26th 04 04:21 PM

How hard is it to solder in a battery every 10-15 years??

--
Clif Holland, KA5IPF
AVVid
Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center
816 W Shady Grove Rd
Irving, TX 75060

www.avvid.com

1-800-214-5779
972-870-0630 (Local)
"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73




OccamsRazor January 26th 04 07:16 PM

Thanks for your input. Kenwood doesn't know of a direct replacement but
sometimes third parties do, so I thought I would just put the question out
there. I guess that many newer radios have a holder installed to make it
easier on the consumer.
Thanks again.
"Jim Leder" wrote in message
...
Don't know if there is a direct holder that will fit, but what I did was
'outboard' a battery holder with a pair of wires. Of course the old holder
was removed, and the wires soldered into place. The 'new' holder is tucked
in the radio towards the back. To replace the battery, I pull the cover,
pull the new holder up and replace the battery and tuck the new battery

back
into place. This procedure and idea is published on the Web, for a

different
but similar Kenwood. Can't find it now.


"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73






OccamsRazor January 26th 04 07:16 PM

Thanks for your input. Kenwood doesn't know of a direct replacement but
sometimes third parties do, so I thought I would just put the question out
there. I guess that many newer radios have a holder installed to make it
easier on the consumer.
Thanks again.
"Jim Leder" wrote in message
...
Don't know if there is a direct holder that will fit, but what I did was
'outboard' a battery holder with a pair of wires. Of course the old holder
was removed, and the wires soldered into place. The 'new' holder is tucked
in the radio towards the back. To replace the battery, I pull the cover,
pull the new holder up and replace the battery and tuck the new battery

back
into place. This procedure and idea is published on the Web, for a

different
but similar Kenwood. Can't find it now.


"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73






OccamsRazor January 26th 04 07:28 PM

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service center
when I foreword your response to them.

"Clif Holland" wrote in message
...
How hard is it to solder in a battery every 10-15 years??

--
Clif Holland, KA5IPF
AVVid
Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center
816 W Shady Grove Rd
Irving, TX 75060

www.avvid.com

1-800-214-5779
972-870-0630 (Local)
"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73






OccamsRazor January 26th 04 07:28 PM

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service center
when I foreword your response to them.

"Clif Holland" wrote in message
...
How hard is it to solder in a battery every 10-15 years??

--
Clif Holland, KA5IPF
AVVid
Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center
816 W Shady Grove Rd
Irving, TX 75060

www.avvid.com

1-800-214-5779
972-870-0630 (Local)
"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73






M.D. January 26th 04 07:46 PM


"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.


Use the battery and holder from an old motherboard.



M.D. January 26th 04 07:46 PM


"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.


Use the battery and holder from an old motherboard.



Zoran Brlecic January 26th 04 11:23 PM

OccamsRazor wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service center
when I foreword your response to them.


What is your ****ing problem? I've been reading this forum for years and
I see that Clif provides answers for *free* whenever someone has a
Kenwood question. He's certainly under no obligation to do this.

If you don't like his answer, realize that you got more than what you
paid for, which is $0. As for your foreword (sic), hopefully Kenwood has
better things to do than investigate imaginary complaints from idiots.
Your question on a public forum and his response is *not* customer service.

And, btw, he is absolutely right: how hard *is* it to solder in a
battery every 10-15 years?



WA7AA



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Zoran Brlecic January 26th 04 11:23 PM

OccamsRazor wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service center
when I foreword your response to them.


What is your ****ing problem? I've been reading this forum for years and
I see that Clif provides answers for *free* whenever someone has a
Kenwood question. He's certainly under no obligation to do this.

If you don't like his answer, realize that you got more than what you
paid for, which is $0. As for your foreword (sic), hopefully Kenwood has
better things to do than investigate imaginary complaints from idiots.
Your question on a public forum and his response is *not* customer service.

And, btw, he is absolutely right: how hard *is* it to solder in a
battery every 10-15 years?



WA7AA



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Jim Leder January 27th 04 12:33 AM

I just pointed out what others have already done. How hard is it to solder
in a battery every 10-15 years? I'm certainly not an 'authorized'
technician, but I was glad my next door neighbor works on stuff like this.
He had the equipment, the steady hands and the eyesight that I don't have.
Would I want to do it again? Nope, not without my neighbor. It's very
intimidating to take your only rig apart that far, and then wave a soldering
iron at it. Those components are really tiny.
But you are correct, Clif, the batteries do last a really long time. My
Kenwood was bought new in 1993 and the battery died last year. Hopefully
I'll get maybe another ten years out of this battery, and I WON'T need my
neighbor's good eyes and hands to replace it :+)).
73's....


"Clif Holland" wrote in message
...
How hard is it to solder in a battery every 10-15 years??

--
Clif Holland, KA5IPF
AVVid
Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center
816 W Shady Grove Rd
Irving, TX 75060

www.avvid.com

1-800-214-5779
972-870-0630 (Local)
"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73






Jim Leder January 27th 04 12:33 AM

I just pointed out what others have already done. How hard is it to solder
in a battery every 10-15 years? I'm certainly not an 'authorized'
technician, but I was glad my next door neighbor works on stuff like this.
He had the equipment, the steady hands and the eyesight that I don't have.
Would I want to do it again? Nope, not without my neighbor. It's very
intimidating to take your only rig apart that far, and then wave a soldering
iron at it. Those components are really tiny.
But you are correct, Clif, the batteries do last a really long time. My
Kenwood was bought new in 1993 and the battery died last year. Hopefully
I'll get maybe another ten years out of this battery, and I WON'T need my
neighbor's good eyes and hands to replace it :+)).
73's....


"Clif Holland" wrote in message
...
How hard is it to solder in a battery every 10-15 years??

--
Clif Holland, KA5IPF
AVVid
Authorized Kenwood and Icom Service Center
816 W Shady Grove Rd
Irving, TX 75060

www.avvid.com

1-800-214-5779
972-870-0630 (Local)
"OccamsRazor" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know if there is a battery holder that can replace the
soldered in battery so future replacement will be easier?
Please reply to group.

TNX and 73






OccamsRazor January 27th 04 02:03 AM

Boy, I guess sarcasm only works one way. I never had any intention of
forwarding the message or complaining to Kenwood. I just don't understand
why someone would reply to a question in that way. I took it as sarcasm. If
you don't have an answer, why reply? Just ignore it if you have nothing to
contribute. And you are right- it isn't that hard to replace a battery every
10 years, I was just looking for an alternative. These groups seem to bring
out the best in people, including myself, don't they?
I apologize for offending anyone. That's all I can do at this point and
will try not to do so in the future.
"Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message
...
OccamsRazor wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with

the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service

center
when I foreword your response to them.


What is your ****ing problem? I've been reading this forum for years and
I see that Clif provides answers for *free* whenever someone has a
Kenwood question. He's certainly under no obligation to do this.

If you don't like his answer, realize that you got more than what you
paid for, which is $0. As for your foreword (sic), hopefully Kenwood has
better things to do than investigate imaginary complaints from idiots.
Your question on a public forum and his response is *not* customer

service.

And, btw, he is absolutely right: how hard *is* it to solder in a
battery every 10-15 years?



WA7AA



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OccamsRazor January 27th 04 02:03 AM

Boy, I guess sarcasm only works one way. I never had any intention of
forwarding the message or complaining to Kenwood. I just don't understand
why someone would reply to a question in that way. I took it as sarcasm. If
you don't have an answer, why reply? Just ignore it if you have nothing to
contribute. And you are right- it isn't that hard to replace a battery every
10 years, I was just looking for an alternative. These groups seem to bring
out the best in people, including myself, don't they?
I apologize for offending anyone. That's all I can do at this point and
will try not to do so in the future.
"Zoran Brlecic" wrote in message
...
OccamsRazor wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with

the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service

center
when I foreword your response to them.


What is your ****ing problem? I've been reading this forum for years and
I see that Clif provides answers for *free* whenever someone has a
Kenwood question. He's certainly under no obligation to do this.

If you don't like his answer, realize that you got more than what you
paid for, which is $0. As for your foreword (sic), hopefully Kenwood has
better things to do than investigate imaginary complaints from idiots.
Your question on a public forum and his response is *not* customer

service.

And, btw, he is absolutely right: how hard *is* it to solder in a
battery every 10-15 years?



WA7AA



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Zoran Brlecic January 27th 04 04:44 AM

OccamsRazor wrote:

Boy, I guess sarcasm only works one way. I never had any intention of
forwarding the message or complaining to Kenwood.


I'm sorry, but I get touchy when it comes to false complaints. I work in
field service dealing with different people all the time, and I know it
doesn't take much to ruin a good engineer's reputation. One can have a
brilliant record with the customers, but sometimes all it takes is a
complaint from some jerk who feels he was terribly wronged beyond
repair. Very few will write a letter to the CEO telling him how great
your service is, but if one thing goes wrong on their bad day (and some
of them celebrate Bad Day every day) - you better watch out.

Please leave complaints about service for the proper occasions. Usenet
messages are not it.


73 .... WA7AA


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Zoran Brlecic January 27th 04 04:44 AM

OccamsRazor wrote:

Boy, I guess sarcasm only works one way. I never had any intention of
forwarding the message or complaining to Kenwood.


I'm sorry, but I get touchy when it comes to false complaints. I work in
field service dealing with different people all the time, and I know it
doesn't take much to ruin a good engineer's reputation. One can have a
brilliant record with the customers, but sometimes all it takes is a
complaint from some jerk who feels he was terribly wronged beyond
repair. Very few will write a letter to the CEO telling him how great
your service is, but if one thing goes wrong on their bad day (and some
of them celebrate Bad Day every day) - you better watch out.

Please leave complaints about service for the proper occasions. Usenet
messages are not it.


73 .... WA7AA


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Gary January 30th 04 04:55 AM


You know what? You are one ****ING RETARD!!! He didnt provide an
answer, just a ignorant snide remark. If you cant see that, then you
should pull you head out of ol Cliffies ass, take a breath of fresh
air, and go play with your gergils.
Gary
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:23:49 GMT, Zoran Brlecic
wrote:

OccamsRazor wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service center
when I foreword your response to them.


What is your ****ing problem? I've been reading this forum for years and
I see that Clif provides answers for *free* whenever someone has a
Kenwood question. He's certainly under no obligation to do this.

If you don't like his answer, realize that you got more than what you
paid for, which is $0. As for your foreword (sic), hopefully Kenwood has
better things to do than investigate imaginary complaints from idiots.
Your question on a public forum and his response is *not* customer service.

And, btw, he is absolutely right: how hard *is* it to solder in a
battery every 10-15 years?



WA7AA



Gary January 30th 04 04:55 AM


You know what? You are one ****ING RETARD!!! He didnt provide an
answer, just a ignorant snide remark. If you cant see that, then you
should pull you head out of ol Cliffies ass, take a breath of fresh
air, and go play with your gergils.
Gary
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:23:49 GMT, Zoran Brlecic
wrote:

OccamsRazor wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I'm sure that Kenwood will be very pleased with the
customer service and courtesy you provide as an authorized service center
when I foreword your response to them.


What is your ****ing problem? I've been reading this forum for years and
I see that Clif provides answers for *free* whenever someone has a
Kenwood question. He's certainly under no obligation to do this.

If you don't like his answer, realize that you got more than what you
paid for, which is $0. As for your foreword (sic), hopefully Kenwood has
better things to do than investigate imaginary complaints from idiots.
Your question on a public forum and his response is *not* customer service.

And, btw, he is absolutely right: how hard *is* it to solder in a
battery every 10-15 years?



WA7AA



Zoran Brlecic January 30th 04 06:04 AM

Gary wrote:

You know what? You are one ****ING RETARD!!! He didnt provide an
answer, just a ignorant snide remark. If you cant see that, then you
should pull you head out of ol Cliffies ass, take a breath of fresh
air, and go play with your gergils.



1. Installing a battery holder so that "battery replacements are easier"
every fifteen years falls under the category of "fixing" non-existent
problems by introducing potential new ones.

2. Stating one's honest opinion as a reply to a question is not
necessarily a snide remark. In this case it was a legitimate answer, not
necessarily to the original poster's liking, but that's Usenet for you.

3. Threatening to jeopardize someone's reputation and a source of income
based on the false impression that a Usenet forum represents customer
service is just nasty.

4. I don't know what gergils are, so I couldn't play with them even if I
wanted to.

5. As for your hissy fit, do you also French-kiss your mother with that
mouth?




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Zoran Brlecic January 30th 04 06:04 AM

Gary wrote:

You know what? You are one ****ING RETARD!!! He didnt provide an
answer, just a ignorant snide remark. If you cant see that, then you
should pull you head out of ol Cliffies ass, take a breath of fresh
air, and go play with your gergils.



1. Installing a battery holder so that "battery replacements are easier"
every fifteen years falls under the category of "fixing" non-existent
problems by introducing potential new ones.

2. Stating one's honest opinion as a reply to a question is not
necessarily a snide remark. In this case it was a legitimate answer, not
necessarily to the original poster's liking, but that's Usenet for you.

3. Threatening to jeopardize someone's reputation and a source of income
based on the false impression that a Usenet forum represents customer
service is just nasty.

4. I don't know what gergils are, so I couldn't play with them even if I
wanted to.

5. As for your hissy fit, do you also French-kiss your mother with that
mouth?




WA7AA


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