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Best Rig for CW?
A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought
an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
"Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51... A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete Look at the K2/100 or the Orion. Their numbers have been published this year in QST. The TenTec mailing list has lots of stuff on the Orion and I believe there is a K2 list which is just as glowing. N5EI |
"Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51... A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete Look at the K2/100 or the Orion. Their numbers have been published this year in QST. The TenTec mailing list has lots of stuff on the Orion and I believe there is a K2 list which is just as glowing. N5EI |
Flat out great CW....no frills??
I'd look for a Ten Tec OMNI V. But, if you already have a IC756, why not make do with that? Just jam it full of filters for CW. The PRO, the ORION, a 1000D, all are nice rigs as well...but a lot of money to spend for a bunch of features that may not interest you. .....Dave "Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51... A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
Flat out great CW....no frills??
I'd look for a Ten Tec OMNI V. But, if you already have a IC756, why not make do with that? Just jam it full of filters for CW. The PRO, the ORION, a 1000D, all are nice rigs as well...but a lot of money to spend for a bunch of features that may not interest you. .....Dave "Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51... A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden"
wrote: A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I'd just look at the Ten Tec offerings, as they pay a lot of attention to CW operation. The Orion, Jupiter or Argonaut V. Also, email Ten Tec for their used/demo rigs -- they take older Ten Tecs in for trade and resell them w/30 day warranty. On the other hand, will any Ten Tec do better than your 756, loaded with good cw filters? Hard to say. Bob k5qwg |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden"
wrote: A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I'd just look at the Ten Tec offerings, as they pay a lot of attention to CW operation. The Orion, Jupiter or Argonaut V. Also, email Ten Tec for their used/demo rigs -- they take older Ten Tecs in for trade and resell them w/30 day warranty. On the other hand, will any Ten Tec do better than your 756, loaded with good cw filters? Hard to say. Bob k5qwg |
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Bob Miller wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden" wrote: A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I'd just look at the Ten Tec offerings, as they pay a lot of attention to CW operation. The Orion, Jupiter or Argonaut V. Also, email Ten Tec for their used/demo rigs -- they take older Ten Tecs in for trade and resell them w/30 day warranty. On the other hand, will any Ten Tec do better than your 756, loaded with good cw filters? Hard to say. Bob k5qwg A few years ago the CW guys liked the T.T. Corsar II. I think you can still find them around for $600. Good rig with a clean recever if you don't mind not having bells and whistles. 73 Dale -- |
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Bob Miller wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden" wrote: A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I'd just look at the Ten Tec offerings, as they pay a lot of attention to CW operation. The Orion, Jupiter or Argonaut V. Also, email Ten Tec for their used/demo rigs -- they take older Ten Tecs in for trade and resell them w/30 day warranty. On the other hand, will any Ten Tec do better than your 756, loaded with good cw filters? Hard to say. Bob k5qwg A few years ago the CW guys liked the T.T. Corsar II. I think you can still find them around for $600. Good rig with a clean recever if you don't mind not having bells and whistles. 73 Dale -- |
Thanks for all your input. I do a lot of RVing and lug my IC756 in and out
of it all the time. I was just wondering about getting another rig for the RV to run my Hamstick. Thanks, Pete |
Thanks for all your input. I do a lot of RVing and lug my IC756 in and out
of it all the time. I was just wondering about getting another rig for the RV to run my Hamstick. Thanks, Pete |
You might check out the Alinco DX-77T. If you read the ARRL review,
they were quite taken with the radio for cw. New about $550 used and in good shape around $400. wrote: In article , Bob Miller wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden" wrote: A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I'd just look at the Ten Tec offerings, as they pay a lot of attention to CW operation. The Orion, Jupiter or Argonaut V. Also, email Ten Tec for their used/demo rigs -- they take older Ten Tecs in for trade and resell them w/30 day warranty. On the other hand, will any Ten Tec do better than your 756, loaded with good cw filters? Hard to say. Bob k5qwg A few years ago the CW guys liked the T.T. Corsar II. I think you can still find them around for $600. Good rig with a clean recever if you don't mind not having bells and whistles. 73 Dale |
"Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51...
A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete Hi Pete, I,m just adding my $0.02 here. From the other responses I take it that you are looking for something that's semi-portable. The rig I use is not very portable but works very well. I use a Heathkit HX-1681/HR-1680 combination that I put together over 20 years ago. The pair runs about 100 Watts on 80-10 Meters and is CW only. The audio filter is a little weak and you have to re-tune if you make big changes in frequency, but the part I like the best that the setup runs "Full Breakin". I just scan the band with the receiver, zero beat the signal on the transmitter, and start sending. Nothing else to touch but the audio level. No annoying clicking from the relays or the audio output. If I was ever to look for another CW only setup, "Full Breakin" would be a must have. -- Martin E. Meserve, K7MEM I respond to news groups and E-Mail on my own time and therefore my responses may not be as timely as you, or I, would like them to be. If I seem to be ignoring you, send me another E-Mail to jog my memory. Opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinions of my employer. |
"Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51...
A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete Hi Pete, I,m just adding my $0.02 here. From the other responses I take it that you are looking for something that's semi-portable. The rig I use is not very portable but works very well. I use a Heathkit HX-1681/HR-1680 combination that I put together over 20 years ago. The pair runs about 100 Watts on 80-10 Meters and is CW only. The audio filter is a little weak and you have to re-tune if you make big changes in frequency, but the part I like the best that the setup runs "Full Breakin". I just scan the band with the receiver, zero beat the signal on the transmitter, and start sending. Nothing else to touch but the audio level. No annoying clicking from the relays or the audio output. If I was ever to look for another CW only setup, "Full Breakin" would be a must have. -- Martin E. Meserve, K7MEM I respond to news groups and E-Mail on my own time and therefore my responses may not be as timely as you, or I, would like them to be. If I seem to be ignoring you, send me another E-Mail to jog my memory. Opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinions of my employer. |
: I'm just looking for the best rig for CW.
Pete, I too run only CW. I've run CW only since my first license in '72. Been Extra now for 30 years, since '74. The transmitter is never the issue. Any rig with a clean output waveform that supplies your required power level, 100 W, will be a perfectly satisfactory transmitter. The key is the receiver. I think that the Yaesu rigs have the best RX in the world, and am saving pennies and dimes to buy the new FT-1000 MP Field. Apparently I am not the only man who thinks so. Johan Sebastian Bach wrote a beautiful solo about this very idea. My wife and I had it sung at our wedding back in 1967: Yaesu, Joy of Man's Desiring VY 73 DE N6UF, Jim |
: I'm just looking for the best rig for CW.
Pete, I too run only CW. I've run CW only since my first license in '72. Been Extra now for 30 years, since '74. The transmitter is never the issue. Any rig with a clean output waveform that supplies your required power level, 100 W, will be a perfectly satisfactory transmitter. The key is the receiver. I think that the Yaesu rigs have the best RX in the world, and am saving pennies and dimes to buy the new FT-1000 MP Field. Apparently I am not the only man who thinks so. Johan Sebastian Bach wrote a beautiful solo about this very idea. My wife and I had it sung at our wedding back in 1967: Yaesu, Joy of Man's Desiring VY 73 DE N6UF, Jim |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden"
wrote: .... Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I have both the 756pro2 and the elecraft k2 /100 and the k2/100 beats the pro2 hands down for cw. not only is the k2 a better receiver but it's got good ergonomics too -- Brendan Minish |
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:17:20 GMT, "Pete Holden"
wrote: .... Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete I have both the 756pro2 and the elecraft k2 /100 and the k2/100 beats the pro2 hands down for cw. not only is the k2 a better receiver but it's got good ergonomics too -- Brendan Minish |
"Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51...
A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete Dunno, I think the 756 with a cw filter is good enough for gov work. I mean, can you really hear something on another brand that you wouldn't on the 756? I sort of doubt it. I'm sure others may be better CW rigs, but I would think what you have is capable enough. It's no slouch radio. Heck, for portable these days and even many times at the house, I'm usually on a lowly 706mk2g. My old TS-830 is a very good cw rig. The best I have anyway...And thats comparing it to drake twins, icom 730,706, etc.. The old TS-830 with a cw filter is a mean machine. With the VBT, you can dial up any filter width you want. In my case with the stock 500 hz -455 filter, down to appx 150 hz width. I rarely if ever use it that narrow. Then you can peak the signal with the IF shift. No DSP artifacts or blowby. Maybe not as steep sloped as DSP, but it's not far off. Even a 830 with no cw filter can dial down to 500 hz just using the VBT. Maybe not as good as some of the new fangled high end stuff, but for the used radio price, pretty good. Same for the old 930s and 940's. They had much the same abilities with both VBT and slope tune. Get a 500 hz filter for your 756 if you don't have one and like to work busy bands like 20m. MK |
"Pete Holden" wrote in message news:AzCYb.58403$uV3.248805@attbi_s51...
A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW. Okay, not straight key, but I just like CW and mostly on either 20 or 15 meters. I don't need memories or computer control or whatever. I'm just looking for the best rig for CW. I want something that will dig a signal out of the QSB, QRN and QRM. I read a lot of guys raving about their QRP rigs but I do want something that'll run 100 watts. Now, I'm not necessarily looking for an inexpensive rig. In fact, maybe my 756 will do as good a job as any. If that's the case, tell me. Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete Dunno, I think the 756 with a cw filter is good enough for gov work. I mean, can you really hear something on another brand that you wouldn't on the 756? I sort of doubt it. I'm sure others may be better CW rigs, but I would think what you have is capable enough. It's no slouch radio. Heck, for portable these days and even many times at the house, I'm usually on a lowly 706mk2g. My old TS-830 is a very good cw rig. The best I have anyway...And thats comparing it to drake twins, icom 730,706, etc.. The old TS-830 with a cw filter is a mean machine. With the VBT, you can dial up any filter width you want. In my case with the stock 500 hz -455 filter, down to appx 150 hz width. I rarely if ever use it that narrow. Then you can peak the signal with the IF shift. No DSP artifacts or blowby. Maybe not as steep sloped as DSP, but it's not far off. Even a 830 with no cw filter can dial down to 500 hz just using the VBT. Maybe not as good as some of the new fangled high end stuff, but for the used radio price, pretty good. Same for the old 930s and 940's. They had much the same abilities with both VBT and slope tune. Get a 500 hz filter for your 756 if you don't have one and like to work busy bands like 20m. MK |
SWAN 500?
"Pete Holden" wrote A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW...... Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
SWAN 500?
"Pete Holden" wrote A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW...... Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
CW folks like ten-tec and the Kenwood TS-940S
-- Incognito By Necessity (:-( If you can't convince them, confuse them. - - -Harry S Truman "Vito" wrote in message ... SWAN 500? "Pete Holden" wrote A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW...... Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
CW folks like ten-tec and the Kenwood TS-940S
-- Incognito By Necessity (:-( If you can't convince them, confuse them. - - -Harry S Truman "Vito" wrote in message ... SWAN 500? "Pete Holden" wrote A few years ago, when I was really getting fired up for ham radio, I bought an IC756. Well, as time has passed I've settled in on what I really like. I don't do contests, don't do SSB, no AM or FM, no RTTY, etc. I just do CW...... Suggestions please.... Thanks, Pete |
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