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Advice wanted:lowband rig
Hi Gang,
The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM Yes, I know there is a lot of info on the web about rigs and specs. I'm hoping for some model numbers to start with. Thanks! Steve |
The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been
thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Steve- It would appear you have described a TS-830, although I don't know if it has Six Meters. I can't think of any other Kenwood rig that would meet your requirements. (Isn't there a TS-870?) 73, Fred, K4DII |
The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been
thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Steve- It would appear you have described a TS-830, although I don't know if it has Six Meters. I can't think of any other Kenwood rig that would meet your requirements. (Isn't there a TS-870?) 73, Fred, K4DII |
thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Good luck! I would think you already own one of the last rigs made with tube finals. Probably not much else available of later vintage. Ed |
thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Good luck! I would think you already own one of the last rigs made with tube finals. Probably not much else available of later vintage. Ed |
"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM YOu left out the most important thing. How much money do you plan on putting into the rig ? While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that to the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are getting harder to come by. By now some of them are getting old enough that the capacitors are starting to give problems. Also the built in power supply seems to have gone the way of the dodo bird. None of the current Kenwoods or Icoms come with a built in power supply. Of the Yaesu models, only the FT-1000D has the power supply built in but this radio is HF only. If you want built in 6m capability as part of the radio, you need to look at radios made in the last 5 to 10 years. The Kenwood TS-570S(G) but not the TS-570D(G) covers HF+6m and is all mode. It does not have tube finals. It does not have a built in power supply. The TS-2000 covers HF+6m+2m and is all mode. Again it doesn't have tube finals and doesn't have a built in power supply. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM YOu left out the most important thing. How much money do you plan on putting into the rig ? While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that to the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are getting harder to come by. By now some of them are getting old enough that the capacitors are starting to give problems. Also the built in power supply seems to have gone the way of the dodo bird. None of the current Kenwoods or Icoms come with a built in power supply. Of the Yaesu models, only the FT-1000D has the power supply built in but this radio is HF only. If you want built in 6m capability as part of the radio, you need to look at radios made in the last 5 to 10 years. The Kenwood TS-570S(G) but not the TS-570D(G) covers HF+6m and is all mode. It does not have tube finals. It does not have a built in power supply. The TS-2000 covers HF+6m+2m and is all mode. Again it doesn't have tube finals and doesn't have a built in power supply. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM YOu left out the most important thing. How much money do you plan on putting into the rig ? While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that to the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are getting harder to come by. By now some of them are getting old enough that the capacitors are starting to give problems. |
"Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM YOu left out the most important thing. How much money do you plan on putting into the rig ? While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that to the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are getting harder to come by. By now some of them are getting old enough that the capacitors are starting to give problems. |
Sounds like you are looking for a Kenwood TS-530S or TS-830S. The built-in
12 volt power supply kind of rules out tube finals, except for the old TS-520, which doesn't have WARC. Ditto for the 6M, not too much tube output stuff did that. If you drop the requirement for tube finals, it's easy, except for the built-in power supply. "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM Yes, I know there is a lot of info on the web about rigs and specs. I'm hoping for some model numbers to start with. Thanks! Steve |
Sounds like you are looking for a Kenwood TS-530S or TS-830S. The built-in
12 volt power supply kind of rules out tube finals, except for the old TS-520, which doesn't have WARC. Ditto for the 6M, not too much tube output stuff did that. If you drop the requirement for tube finals, it's easy, except for the built-in power supply. "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM Yes, I know there is a lot of info on the web about rigs and specs. I'm hoping for some model numbers to start with. Thanks! Steve |
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:18:38 GMT, "Steve" wrote:
Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM Yes, I know there is a lot of info on the web about rigs and specs. I'm hoping for some model numbers to start with. Thanks! Steve No such rig exists. Go with an external power supply and solid state finals, and plenty of rigs have 160-10, with WARC bands. A few also have 6 meters. Look at the "product reviews" at eham.net. That will be the best way to familiarize yourself with what might be out there. Bob k5qwg |
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:18:38 GMT, "Steve" wrote:
Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM Yes, I know there is a lot of info on the web about rigs and specs. I'm hoping for some model numbers to start with. Thanks! Steve No such rig exists. Go with an external power supply and solid state finals, and plenty of rigs have 160-10, with WARC bands. A few also have 6 meters. Look at the "product reviews" at eham.net. That will be the best way to familiarize yourself with what might be out there. Bob k5qwg |
Actually. many older rigs used external power supplies such as
the Heathkit SB and HW series rigs, many of the Hallicrafters (HT-44, etc) and Collins rigs (S-line). Not that many 100 watt tranceivers used internal supplies. The reason its gone the way of the dodo bird is because of solid state output stages that require lotsa current. Cost....I'm looking for used, older stuff at a junkfest. Take a guess! ;-) Don't even mind taking on a fixer-upper if the price is right. I prefer tube finals for several reasons. They are inherently more forgiving to things like high SWR, mistuning, etc. Plus I have a nice stock of 6146's. I feel very comfortable working with tubes, replacing capacitors, etc. Also true for transistors, but replacements, when they are needed, are expensive and a pain to install. Over the years I have come across many rigs with solid state finals for sale, cheap (blown outputs). I can take a hint! Thanks to everyone that has offered their advice. Its greatly appreciated. Maybe if I win the Lottery, I'll buy a new radio. Steve W6SSP Dee D. Flint wrote in message .com... "Ralph Mowery" wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM YOu left out the most important thing. How much money do you plan on putting into the rig ? While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that to the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are getting harder to come by. By now some of them are getting old enough that the capacitors are starting to give problems. Also the built in power supply seems to have gone the way of the dodo bird. None of the current Kenwoods or Icoms come with a built in power supply. Of the Yaesu models, only the FT-1000D has the power supply built in but this radio is HF only. If you want built in 6m capability as part of the radio, you need to look at radios made in the last 5 to 10 years. The Kenwood TS-570S(G) but not the TS-570D(G) covers HF+6m and is all mode. It does not have tube finals. It does not have a built in power supply. The TS-2000 covers HF+6m+2m and is all mode. Again it doesn't have tube finals and doesn't have a built in power supply. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Actually. many older rigs used external power supplies such as
the Heathkit SB and HW series rigs, many of the Hallicrafters (HT-44, etc) and Collins rigs (S-line). Not that many 100 watt tranceivers used internal supplies. The reason its gone the way of the dodo bird is because of solid state output stages that require lotsa current. Cost....I'm looking for used, older stuff at a junkfest. Take a guess! ;-) Don't even mind taking on a fixer-upper if the price is right. I prefer tube finals for several reasons. They are inherently more forgiving to things like high SWR, mistuning, etc. Plus I have a nice stock of 6146's. I feel very comfortable working with tubes, replacing capacitors, etc. Also true for transistors, but replacements, when they are needed, are expensive and a pain to install. Over the years I have come across many rigs with solid state finals for sale, cheap (blown outputs). I can take a hint! Thanks to everyone that has offered their advice. Its greatly appreciated. Maybe if I win the Lottery, I'll buy a new radio. Steve W6SSP Dee D. Flint wrote in message .com... "Ralph Mowery" wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi Gang, The junkfest season starts here next weekend, and I've been thinking about searching for a newer, more capable low band rig. My current rig is an old TS-820S which I am very pleased with. Here are my requirements; tube finals, 160-10 meter bands including the newfangled (!) WARC bands, 100 watts out, internal power supply Would be nice, but not necessary; 12 VDC supply built in, general coverage receiver, 6 meter capability, a Kenwood rig, AM YOu left out the most important thing. How much money do you plan on putting into the rig ? While the tube finals are what you want, it may be time to rethink that to the solid state finals as the tubes (inexpensive) and tube rigs are getting harder to come by. By now some of them are getting old enough that the capacitors are starting to give problems. Also the built in power supply seems to have gone the way of the dodo bird. None of the current Kenwoods or Icoms come with a built in power supply. Of the Yaesu models, only the FT-1000D has the power supply built in but this radio is HF only. If you want built in 6m capability as part of the radio, you need to look at radios made in the last 5 to 10 years. The Kenwood TS-570S(G) but not the TS-570D(G) covers HF+6m and is all mode. It does not have tube finals. It does not have a built in power supply. The TS-2000 covers HF+6m+2m and is all mode. Again it doesn't have tube finals and doesn't have a built in power supply. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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