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[email protected] September 19th 04 11:23 PM

HELP Astron 70 amp PS
 
HELP Astron 70 amp PS
I have a astron 70 amp power supply and was hooking up a transmitter
to it and I pulled the power supply closer to me and the positive wire
came loose and hit the ground terminal on power supply.
Now when I turn it on you can hear the power supply turn on and the
light on the power swithch comes on, but no volts comes up on the
meter. I checked the terminals on the back and no volt, very little if
at all.
The outside fuse is good.
I took off top cover and I don't see and internal fuse.
Is there a diode I should be looking for?
I'm sure it has to have some kind of protection if the wires are
reversed.
Any help would be great.
Rich


Ralph Mowery September 20th 04 12:22 AM


wrote in message
...
HELP Astron 70 amp PS
I have a astron 70 amp power supply and was hooking up a transmitter
to it and I pulled the power supply closer to me and the positive wire
came loose and hit the ground terminal on power supply.
Now when I turn it on you can hear the power supply turn on and the
light on the power swithch comes on, but no volts comes up on the
meter. I checked the terminals on the back and no volt, very little if


Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted. If so the
crowbar may be kicking in and keeping the output voltage low. Doubt this is
the case as the fuse would probably blow. Otherwise check the 723 voltage
regulator IC and see if it is putting out any voltage. YOu may just have to
change it out as that seems to be a weak point of the supplies.



Ralph Mowery September 20th 04 12:22 AM


wrote in message
...
HELP Astron 70 amp PS
I have a astron 70 amp power supply and was hooking up a transmitter
to it and I pulled the power supply closer to me and the positive wire
came loose and hit the ground terminal on power supply.
Now when I turn it on you can hear the power supply turn on and the
light on the power swithch comes on, but no volts comes up on the
meter. I checked the terminals on the back and no volt, very little if


Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted. If so the
crowbar may be kicking in and keeping the output voltage low. Doubt this is
the case as the fuse would probably blow. Otherwise check the 723 voltage
regulator IC and see if it is putting out any voltage. YOu may just have to
change it out as that seems to be a weak point of the supplies.



Ralph Mowery September 20th 04 12:22 AM


wrote in message
...
HELP Astron 70 amp PS
I have a astron 70 amp power supply and was hooking up a transmitter
to it and I pulled the power supply closer to me and the positive wire
came loose and hit the ground terminal on power supply.
Now when I turn it on you can hear the power supply turn on and the
light on the power swithch comes on, but no volts comes up on the
meter. I checked the terminals on the back and no volt, very little if


Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted. If so the
crowbar may be kicking in and keeping the output voltage low. Doubt this is
the case as the fuse would probably blow. Otherwise check the 723 voltage
regulator IC and see if it is putting out any voltage. YOu may just have to
change it out as that seems to be a weak point of the supplies.



Me September 21st 04 10:49 PM

In article . net,
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:

Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


Me

Me September 21st 04 10:49 PM

In article . net,
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:

Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


Me

Me September 21st 04 10:49 PM

In article . net,
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:

Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


Me

Dave Platt September 21st 04 11:16 PM

In article ,
Me wrote:

Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


It's still darned good advice. If there's a fuse or fusible component
between the DC filter caps and the pass transistor, it might very well
have blown if the pass transistor shorted during an overload.

From what I've heard, bipolar power transistors are as likely to fail
shorted as they are to fail open.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Dave Platt September 21st 04 11:16 PM

In article ,
Me wrote:

Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


It's still darned good advice. If there's a fuse or fusible component
between the DC filter caps and the pass transistor, it might very well
have blown if the pass transistor shorted during an overload.

From what I've heard, bipolar power transistors are as likely to fail
shorted as they are to fail open.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Dave Platt September 21st 04 11:16 PM

In article ,
Me wrote:

Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


It's still darned good advice. If there's a fuse or fusible component
between the DC filter caps and the pass transistor, it might very well
have blown if the pass transistor shorted during an overload.

From what I've heard, bipolar power transistors are as likely to fail
shorted as they are to fail open.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Ralph Mowery September 22nd 04 12:16 AM


Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


I don't debate or try very hard to teach idiots but the Astrons have a
crowbar circuit that will activate and the output voltage will drop to a
very low value. Most simiconductors fail by shorting and are not blown
open.





Ralph Mowery September 22nd 04 12:16 AM


Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


I don't debate or try very hard to teach idiots but the Astrons have a
crowbar circuit that will activate and the output voltage will drop to a
very low value. Most simiconductors fail by shorting and are not blown
open.





Ralph Mowery September 22nd 04 12:16 AM


Check to see if any or all of the pass transistors are shorted.


Bzzzt, wrong, would you like to try for what is behind Door #3?

If the Pass Transistors were shorted, you would see the voltage of the
filter capacitors and rectifiers on the output. He stated that he had
"No or little output voltage". This would indicate that the Pass
Transistors are OPEN, blown that way by the High Current when the output
was shorted, or the rectifiers are blown OPEN and not producing any
DC to the filter caps.


I don't debate or try very hard to teach idiots but the Astrons have a
crowbar circuit that will activate and the output voltage will drop to a
very low value. Most simiconductors fail by shorting and are not blown
open.





Me September 24th 04 08:56 PM

In article . net,
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:

I don't debate or try very hard to teach idiots but the Astrons have a
crowbar circuit that will activate and the output voltage will drop to a
very low value. Most simiconductors fail by shorting and are not blown
open.


Bzzzt, Wrong again, If the Crowbar SCR is shorted or in the conducting
state, then the whole output of the powersupply would be dissipated by
it, and that would then cause the Pass transistors to fail from
overcurrent, or the input AC fuse to fail from overcurrent. He stated
in the original post, that the AC fuse was GOOD, but he was getting no
output voltage on the DC terminals, therefore there would be an OPEN
somewhere in the supply that was caused by the OVER CURRENT of touching
the DC Terminals together.

Your analysis skills are a bit lacking here dude.


Me

Me September 24th 04 08:56 PM

In article . net,
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:

I don't debate or try very hard to teach idiots but the Astrons have a
crowbar circuit that will activate and the output voltage will drop to a
very low value. Most simiconductors fail by shorting and are not blown
open.


Bzzzt, Wrong again, If the Crowbar SCR is shorted or in the conducting
state, then the whole output of the powersupply would be dissipated by
it, and that would then cause the Pass transistors to fail from
overcurrent, or the input AC fuse to fail from overcurrent. He stated
in the original post, that the AC fuse was GOOD, but he was getting no
output voltage on the DC terminals, therefore there would be an OPEN
somewhere in the supply that was caused by the OVER CURRENT of touching
the DC Terminals together.

Your analysis skills are a bit lacking here dude.


Me

Me September 24th 04 08:56 PM

In article . net,
"Ralph Mowery" wrote:

I don't debate or try very hard to teach idiots but the Astrons have a
crowbar circuit that will activate and the output voltage will drop to a
very low value. Most simiconductors fail by shorting and are not blown
open.


Bzzzt, Wrong again, If the Crowbar SCR is shorted or in the conducting
state, then the whole output of the powersupply would be dissipated by
it, and that would then cause the Pass transistors to fail from
overcurrent, or the input AC fuse to fail from overcurrent. He stated
in the original post, that the AC fuse was GOOD, but he was getting no
output voltage on the DC terminals, therefore there would be an OPEN
somewhere in the supply that was caused by the OVER CURRENT of touching
the DC Terminals together.

Your analysis skills are a bit lacking here dude.


Me


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