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flashback December 18th 04 05:16 PM

How much power for coax?
 
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running about
1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru 40 meters.
I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but I hate to feed
the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI



pfriedmanNoSpam December 18th 04 05:36 PM

"flashback" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running about
1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru 40
meters. I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but I
hate to feed the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI


At 10 MHz, the power rating for RG-58 (Polyethylene Dielectric) is 730w and
for RG-8 it is 3700w). For foam dielectric, use something like 50% of the
above. Note that RG-8x is rated at 1000w at this frequency.

Data from http://www.nemal.com/Catalog/30.pdf

Paul AB0SI



pfriedmanNoSpam December 18th 04 05:36 PM

"flashback" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running about
1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru 40
meters. I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but I
hate to feed the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI


At 10 MHz, the power rating for RG-58 (Polyethylene Dielectric) is 730w and
for RG-8 it is 3700w). For foam dielectric, use something like 50% of the
above. Note that RG-8x is rated at 1000w at this frequency.

Data from http://www.nemal.com/Catalog/30.pdf

Paul AB0SI



pfriedmanNoSpam December 18th 04 05:36 PM

"flashback" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running about
1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru 40
meters. I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but I
hate to feed the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI


At 10 MHz, the power rating for RG-58 (Polyethylene Dielectric) is 730w and
for RG-8 it is 3700w). For foam dielectric, use something like 50% of the
above. Note that RG-8x is rated at 1000w at this frequency.

Data from http://www.nemal.com/Catalog/30.pdf

Paul AB0SI



Caveat Lector December 18th 04 07:07 PM


Also I understand that coax power handling capabilities should be de-rated
as the SWR goes up.
Any one have a formula for this ?
--
Caveat Lecter



"pfriedmanNoSpam" wrote in message
...
"flashback" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running
about 1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru
40 meters. I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but
I hate to feed the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI


At 10 MHz, the power rating for RG-58 (Polyethylene Dielectric) is 730w
and for RG-8 it is 3700w). For foam dielectric, use something like 50% of
the above. Note that RG-8x is rated at 1000w at this frequency.

Data from http://www.nemal.com/Catalog/30.pdf

Paul AB0SI




Caveat Lector December 18th 04 07:07 PM


Also I understand that coax power handling capabilities should be de-rated
as the SWR goes up.
Any one have a formula for this ?
--
Caveat Lecter



"pfriedmanNoSpam" wrote in message
...
"flashback" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running
about 1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru
40 meters. I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but
I hate to feed the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI


At 10 MHz, the power rating for RG-58 (Polyethylene Dielectric) is 730w
and for RG-8 it is 3700w). For foam dielectric, use something like 50% of
the above. Note that RG-8x is rated at 1000w at this frequency.

Data from http://www.nemal.com/Catalog/30.pdf

Paul AB0SI




Caveat Lector December 18th 04 07:07 PM


Also I understand that coax power handling capabilities should be de-rated
as the SWR goes up.
Any one have a formula for this ?
--
Caveat Lecter



"pfriedmanNoSpam" wrote in message
...
"flashback" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have experience with how much power can be run through rg-58
versus rg-8. I am purchasing an Ameritron al-80B and will be running
about 1K out. Can I still get away with RG-58? I will be using 160 thru
40 meters. I have a 200 foot run of RG-8 running to my antenna site, but
I hate to feed the dipole with something so heavy as RG-8.

thanks in advance for any help

W0EZI


At 10 MHz, the power rating for RG-58 (Polyethylene Dielectric) is 730w
and for RG-8 it is 3700w). For foam dielectric, use something like 50% of
the above. Note that RG-8x is rated at 1000w at this frequency.

Data from http://www.nemal.com/Catalog/30.pdf

Paul AB0SI




Reg Edwards December 18th 04 08:07 PM

Download program COAXRATE from website below in a few seconds and run
immediately. Easy to use.

It calculates, amongst other useful things, power loss and temperature rise
in solid polyethylene coaxial cable, versus dimensions, RF power input, SWR
etc., under various physical conditions. It is at least as accurate as
manufacturers' own rating data. It takes into account ambient temperature
which almost invariably is ignored.

Cable power rating depends on whether it is used at midnight in mid-winter
in N.Alaska, or at noon, in mid-summer, in New Mexico. Data in ARRL
handbooks is fairly useless.

Program COAXRATE.
----
.................................................. ..........
Regards from Reg, G4FGQ
For Free Radio Design Software go to
http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp
.................................................. ..........
----
Reg, G4FGQ



Reg Edwards December 18th 04 08:07 PM

Download program COAXRATE from website below in a few seconds and run
immediately. Easy to use.

It calculates, amongst other useful things, power loss and temperature rise
in solid polyethylene coaxial cable, versus dimensions, RF power input, SWR
etc., under various physical conditions. It is at least as accurate as
manufacturers' own rating data. It takes into account ambient temperature
which almost invariably is ignored.

Cable power rating depends on whether it is used at midnight in mid-winter
in N.Alaska, or at noon, in mid-summer, in New Mexico. Data in ARRL
handbooks is fairly useless.

Program COAXRATE.
----
.................................................. ..........
Regards from Reg, G4FGQ
For Free Radio Design Software go to
http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp
.................................................. ..........
----
Reg, G4FGQ



Reg Edwards December 18th 04 08:07 PM

Download program COAXRATE from website below in a few seconds and run
immediately. Easy to use.

It calculates, amongst other useful things, power loss and temperature rise
in solid polyethylene coaxial cable, versus dimensions, RF power input, SWR
etc., under various physical conditions. It is at least as accurate as
manufacturers' own rating data. It takes into account ambient temperature
which almost invariably is ignored.

Cable power rating depends on whether it is used at midnight in mid-winter
in N.Alaska, or at noon, in mid-summer, in New Mexico. Data in ARRL
handbooks is fairly useless.

Program COAXRATE.
----
.................................................. ..........
Regards from Reg, G4FGQ
For Free Radio Design Software go to
http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp
.................................................. ..........
----
Reg, G4FGQ




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