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Ken Bessler December 21st 04 03:51 AM

6 Meter amp?
 
I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX




Howard December 21st 04 05:01 AM

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0600, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:

I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


Ken,
See if you can find anything on TE Systems. I did a search and found
reviews on their gear but no website for the company so I'm not sure
of their status. Recall seeing their ads in QST a few times in the
past year or two so they might be around but just not on the web.

Howard

Howard December 21st 04 05:01 AM

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0600, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:

I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


Ken,
See if you can find anything on TE Systems. I did a search and found
reviews on their gear but no website for the company so I'm not sure
of their status. Recall seeing their ads in QST a few times in the
past year or two so they might be around but just not on the web.

Howard

Ralph Mowery December 21st 04 12:40 PM


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:a5Nxd.3789$Jb7.1228@okepread01...
I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


You may want to do what I did . I had an older ssb/am rig and that amp a
few years back . Sold them both off and went with an Icom 706. That gave
me an all mode rig and 100 watts out on 6 meters plus everything else but
the 220 band as a stand by rig. I already had a good 2 meter and 432 mhz
seperate setup. A new Icom is not that much more than the amp and rig.



Ralph Mowery December 21st 04 12:40 PM


"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:a5Nxd.3789$Jb7.1228@okepread01...
I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


You may want to do what I did . I had an older ssb/am rig and that amp a
few years back . Sold them both off and went with an Icom 706. That gave
me an all mode rig and 100 watts out on 6 meters plus everything else but
the 220 band as a stand by rig. I already had a good 2 meter and 432 mhz
seperate setup. A new Icom is not that much more than the amp and rig.



Ken Bessler December 21st 04 05:31 PM


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:a5Nxd.3789$Jb7.1228@okepread01...
I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


You may want to do what I did . I had an older ssb/am rig and that amp a
few years back . Sold them both off and went with an Icom 706. That gave
me an all mode rig and 100 watts out on 6 meters plus everything else but
the 220 band as a stand by rig. I already had a good 2 meter and 432 mhz
seperate setup. A new Icom is not that much more than the amp and rig.



That's a sensible idea but it goes against what I want.
Up untill a few months ago I had an FT-857D. Radio
worked great but now it's been replaced by the following
setup:

Yaesu FT-840 ($250) with seperate dipoles for every HF band,
Kenwood TM-271A with a Hustler CG-144 @ 42',
Yaesu FT-690RII with a temp inverted V @ 10',
Yaesu VX-2R for 440 TX & general wide band RX,
Radio Shack Pro-94A for trunking & general scanning.

You see, instead of one radio to do everything but only one
thing at a time, I can do many things all at once. Sure, I've
lost 144/440 SSB but they wern't that important to me.

With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).

Ken KG0WX




Ken Bessler December 21st 04 05:31 PM


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Ken Bessler" wrote in message
news:a5Nxd.3789$Jb7.1228@okepread01...
I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


You may want to do what I did . I had an older ssb/am rig and that amp a
few years back . Sold them both off and went with an Icom 706. That gave
me an all mode rig and 100 watts out on 6 meters plus everything else but
the 220 band as a stand by rig. I already had a good 2 meter and 432 mhz
seperate setup. A new Icom is not that much more than the amp and rig.



That's a sensible idea but it goes against what I want.
Up untill a few months ago I had an FT-857D. Radio
worked great but now it's been replaced by the following
setup:

Yaesu FT-840 ($250) with seperate dipoles for every HF band,
Kenwood TM-271A with a Hustler CG-144 @ 42',
Yaesu FT-690RII with a temp inverted V @ 10',
Yaesu VX-2R for 440 TX & general wide band RX,
Radio Shack Pro-94A for trunking & general scanning.

You see, instead of one radio to do everything but only one
thing at a time, I can do many things all at once. Sure, I've
lost 144/440 SSB but they wern't that important to me.

With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).

Ken KG0WX




Ralph Mowery December 21st 04 06:23 PM

I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


You may want to do what I did . I had an older ssb/am rig and that amp

a
few years back . Sold them both off and went with an Icom 706. That

gave
me an all mode rig and 100 watts out on 6 meters plus everything else

but
the 220 band as a stand by rig. I already had a good 2 meter and 432

mhz
seperate setup. A new Icom is not that much more than the amp and rig.



That's a sensible idea but it goes against what I want.
Up untill a few months ago I had an FT-857D. Radio
worked great but now it's been replaced by the following
setup:

Yaesu FT-840 ($250) with seperate dipoles for every HF band,
Kenwood TM-271A with a Hustler CG-144 @ 42',
Yaesu FT-690RII with a temp inverted V @ 10',
Yaesu VX-2R for 440 TX & general wide band RX,
Radio Shack Pro-94A for trunking & general scanning.

You see, instead of one radio to do everything but only one
thing at a time, I can do many things all at once. Sure, I've
lost 144/440 SSB but they wern't that important to me.


Ken I was referring to just using the Icom on 6 meters. I have seperate
rigs for several bands but decided to replace the 6 meter only rig and amp
with the Icom. That gave me 100 watts instead of 150 watts out and also if
I want to use the Icom for other bands if one of the other rigs craps out I
can. Just because the Icom does everything does not mean that you can not
just use it for a single band. Also not that you want to use it for FM but
with lots of 6 meter repeaters going tone control I don't think that you can
set but one tone at a time on the 690. I don't have one of those but do
have the 440 mhz version I bought many years ago.



Ralph Mowery December 21st 04 06:23 PM

I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


You may want to do what I did . I had an older ssb/am rig and that amp

a
few years back . Sold them both off and went with an Icom 706. That

gave
me an all mode rig and 100 watts out on 6 meters plus everything else

but
the 220 band as a stand by rig. I already had a good 2 meter and 432

mhz
seperate setup. A new Icom is not that much more than the amp and rig.



That's a sensible idea but it goes against what I want.
Up untill a few months ago I had an FT-857D. Radio
worked great but now it's been replaced by the following
setup:

Yaesu FT-840 ($250) with seperate dipoles for every HF band,
Kenwood TM-271A with a Hustler CG-144 @ 42',
Yaesu FT-690RII with a temp inverted V @ 10',
Yaesu VX-2R for 440 TX & general wide band RX,
Radio Shack Pro-94A for trunking & general scanning.

You see, instead of one radio to do everything but only one
thing at a time, I can do many things all at once. Sure, I've
lost 144/440 SSB but they wern't that important to me.


Ken I was referring to just using the Icom on 6 meters. I have seperate
rigs for several bands but decided to replace the 6 meter only rig and amp
with the Icom. That gave me 100 watts instead of 150 watts out and also if
I want to use the Icom for other bands if one of the other rigs craps out I
can. Just because the Icom does everything does not mean that you can not
just use it for a single band. Also not that you want to use it for FM but
with lots of 6 meter repeaters going tone control I don't think that you can
set but one tone at a time on the 690. I don't have one of those but do
have the 440 mhz version I bought many years ago.



Ken Bessler December 21st 04 07:48 PM


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
nk.net...

Ken I was referring to just using the Icom on 6 meters. I have seperate
rigs for several bands but decided to replace the 6 meter only rig and amp
with the Icom. That gave me 100 watts instead of 150 watts out and also
if
I want to use the Icom for other bands if one of the other rigs craps out
I
can. Just because the Icom does everything does not mean that you can not
just use it for a single band. Also not that you want to use it for FM
but
with lots of 6 meter repeaters going tone control I don't think that you
can
set but one tone at a time on the 690. I don't have one of those but do
have the 440 mhz version I bought many years ago.


A good point but I hate waste. OTOH, it *would* be a lifesaver if one
of the other rigs craps out. I'll have to consider that.

As to FM on the FT-690RII, You're right - the stock tone board is DIP
programmed and you have to remove the stock 10W amp to get at it. That
and the rareness of the OEM tone board makes me think of an aftermarket
board. I think it was Comm. Concepts that made a nice rotary selected
box.

My 6m interest is 75% SSB, 15% cw & 5% FM simplex - that leaves only
5% interest in FM repeaters. Something about waste again - using a repeater
when the band is wide open.....

Thanks for the food for thought.

Ken KG0WX

..



Ken Bessler December 21st 04 07:48 PM


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
nk.net...

Ken I was referring to just using the Icom on 6 meters. I have seperate
rigs for several bands but decided to replace the 6 meter only rig and amp
with the Icom. That gave me 100 watts instead of 150 watts out and also
if
I want to use the Icom for other bands if one of the other rigs craps out
I
can. Just because the Icom does everything does not mean that you can not
just use it for a single band. Also not that you want to use it for FM
but
with lots of 6 meter repeaters going tone control I don't think that you
can
set but one tone at a time on the 690. I don't have one of those but do
have the 440 mhz version I bought many years ago.


A good point but I hate waste. OTOH, it *would* be a lifesaver if one
of the other rigs craps out. I'll have to consider that.

As to FM on the FT-690RII, You're right - the stock tone board is DIP
programmed and you have to remove the stock 10W amp to get at it. That
and the rareness of the OEM tone board makes me think of an aftermarket
board. I think it was Comm. Concepts that made a nice rotary selected
box.

My 6m interest is 75% SSB, 15% cw & 5% FM simplex - that leaves only
5% interest in FM repeaters. Something about waste again - using a repeater
when the band is wide open.....

Thanks for the food for thought.

Ken KG0WX

..



AA December 21st 04 10:49 PM

With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).


Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com site.
I built it, works great.

Cheers;
A

AA December 21st 04 10:49 PM

With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).


Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com site.
I built it, works great.

Cheers;
A

Ken Bessler December 21st 04 11:05 PM


"AA" wrote in message
...
With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).


Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com
site.
I built it, works great.

Cheers;
A


Are you sure about that web site? All I got there
was some frog animation.

Help?

Ken KG0WX




Ken Bessler December 21st 04 11:05 PM


"AA" wrote in message
...
With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).


Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com
site.
I built it, works great.

Cheers;
A


Are you sure about that web site? All I got there
was some frog animation.

Help?

Ken KG0WX




Allodoxaphobia December 21st 04 11:59 PM

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:22 -0600, Ken Bessler wrote:

"AA" wrote in message
...
With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).


Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com
site. I built it, works great.


Are you sure about that web site? All I got there
was some frog animation.


Try 6mt.com

Jonesy
--
| Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK

Allodoxaphobia December 21st 04 11:59 PM

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:22 -0600, Ken Bessler wrote:

"AA" wrote in message
...
With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).


Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com
site. I built it, works great.


Are you sure about that web site? All I got there
was some frog animation.


Try 6mt.com

Jonesy
--
| Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK

Allodoxaphobia December 22nd 04 12:11 AM

On 21 Dec 2004 23:59:06 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:22 -0600, Ken Bessler wrote:

"AA" wrote in message
...
With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).

Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com
site. I built it, works great.


Are you sure about that web site? All I got there
was some frog animation.


Try 6mt.com


Ugh, I take that back! They" have "improved" that site to the point
where it loads like a pig, and I am left with a gazillion "Loading Applet"
buttons.

These people never heard of KISS.


On the OP's topic, these folks used to have App Notes on the
construction of VHF amplifiers that I had been drooling over
for some time. This web site seems to have changed, too. I
hope the App Notes are still in there - somewhe

http://www.communication-concepts.com/

These folks, too, have some Great Stuff vis-a-vis designing VHF
amps:

http://www.advancedpower.com/

Then again, maybe Santa will bring you something! HI!HI!

73
Jonesy
--
| Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK

Allodoxaphobia December 22nd 04 12:11 AM

On 21 Dec 2004 23:59:06 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:22 -0600, Ken Bessler wrote:

"AA" wrote in message
...
With that in mind, I'm probably going to put a PAR OA-50
up a 20' pole and maybe get an amp for 6 meters - that should
work FB (I hope).

Ken....should work fine. Mine is up around 30' and does a fine job (on a
ridgeline, to boot). As for the amp, if you like homebrewing, there was a
decent design in QST some years ago...think the design is on the 6m.com
site. I built it, works great.


Are you sure about that web site? All I got there
was some frog animation.


Try 6mt.com


Ugh, I take that back! They" have "improved" that site to the point
where it loads like a pig, and I am left with a gazillion "Loading Applet"
buttons.

These people never heard of KISS.


On the OP's topic, these folks used to have App Notes on the
construction of VHF amplifiers that I had been drooling over
for some time. This web site seems to have changed, too. I
hope the App Notes are still in there - somewhe

http://www.communication-concepts.com/

These folks, too, have some Great Stuff vis-a-vis designing VHF
amps:

http://www.advancedpower.com/

Then again, maybe Santa will bring you something! HI!HI!

73
Jonesy
--
| Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
| Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
| 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK

Hank Oredson December 22nd 04 12:15 AM

"Howard" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0600, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:

I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


Ken,
See if you can find anything on TE Systems. I did a search and found
reviews on their gear but no website for the company so I'm not sure
of their status. Recall seeing their ads in QST a few times in the
past year or two so they might be around but just not on the web.


http://www.mpaudio1.com/TESYSTEMS.html

--

... Hank

http://horedson.home.att.net
http://w0rli.home.att.net



Hank Oredson December 22nd 04 12:15 AM

"Howard" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:51:32 -0600, "Ken Bessler"
wrote:

I'm looking for a 10 watt in, minimum 100 w out
all mode 6m amp with a preamp. The only one I've
found is the Mirage A-1015-G for about $390.

Are there cheaper options out there?

Ken KG0WX


Ken,
See if you can find anything on TE Systems. I did a search and found
reviews on their gear but no website for the company so I'm not sure
of their status. Recall seeing their ads in QST a few times in the
past year or two so they might be around but just not on the web.


http://www.mpaudio1.com/TESYSTEMS.html

--

... Hank

http://horedson.home.att.net
http://w0rli.home.att.net



Geoffrey S. Mendelson December 22nd 04 01:21 AM

In article l5Zxd.25$bi.22@okepread01, Ken Bessler wrote:
Yaesu FT-690RII with a temp inverted V @ 10',


Dosen't this cut the option of FM repeater to 1? I have a 290 (the 2m version)
and it only has PL (CTCSS) on/offf. The actual frequency is set by dip switches
which require the radio to be disasembled to change.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem Israel
IL Voice: 972-544-608-069 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
I may be an old fart, but I'm a high-tech, up to date old fart. :-)

Geoffrey S. Mendelson December 22nd 04 01:21 AM

In article l5Zxd.25$bi.22@okepread01, Ken Bessler wrote:
Yaesu FT-690RII with a temp inverted V @ 10',


Dosen't this cut the option of FM repeater to 1? I have a 290 (the 2m version)
and it only has PL (CTCSS) on/offf. The actual frequency is set by dip switches
which require the radio to be disasembled to change.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem Israel
IL Voice: 972-544-608-069 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
I may be an old fart, but I'm a high-tech, up to date old fart. :-)

Geoffrey S. Mendelson December 22nd 04 01:31 AM

In article I6%xd.1$962.0@okepread01, Ken Bessler wrote:
My 6m interest is 75% SSB, 15% cw & 5% FM simplex - that leaves only
5% interest in FM repeaters. Something about waste again - using a repeater
when the band is wide open.....


Yes, but imagine their surprise when you show up on a 2m repeater with a
linked 6m input. When I lived in Philly I used to do that on 10m.
Once had a QSO with one guy in St Louis, one in Maine, one on 440 and me
all on a 440/10m linked repeater, I assume you could do similar with
6m too.

You should keep in mind what you don't use, you loose, the 6m band here
(Israel) is 50000 to 50200 with a 25 watt limit.

Geoff.



--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem Israel
IL Voice: 972-544-608-069 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
I may be an old fart, but I'm a high-tech, up to date old fart. :-)

Geoffrey S. Mendelson December 22nd 04 01:31 AM

In article I6%xd.1$962.0@okepread01, Ken Bessler wrote:
My 6m interest is 75% SSB, 15% cw & 5% FM simplex - that leaves only
5% interest in FM repeaters. Something about waste again - using a repeater
when the band is wide open.....


Yes, but imagine their surprise when you show up on a 2m repeater with a
linked 6m input. When I lived in Philly I used to do that on 10m.
Once had a QSO with one guy in St Louis, one in Maine, one on 440 and me
all on a 440/10m linked repeater, I assume you could do similar with
6m too.

You should keep in mind what you don't use, you loose, the 6m band here
(Israel) is 50000 to 50200 with a 25 watt limit.

Geoff.



--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem Israel
IL Voice: 972-544-608-069 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
I may be an old fart, but I'm a high-tech, up to date old fart. :-)


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