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These three NGs seem to be largely disused these days, apart from those of
we who are trying to keep discussion about amateur radio alive on Usenet.

Time to face up to facts and to do away with them?

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, gareth wrote:

These three NGs seem to be largely disused these days, apart from those of
we who are trying to keep discussion about amateur radio alive on Usenet.

Time to face up to facts and to do away with them?



Don't even mention something like this.

The Overloard is part of the Big 8 management group, if I remember
properly. He'd just love to shut these down, leaving the moderated
newsgroup in place.

Michael

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On 1/26/2016 7:53 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
Michael Black wrote:


These three NGs seem to be largely disused these days, apart from those of
we who are trying to keep discussion about amateur radio alive on Usenet.

Time to face up to facts and to do away with them?



Don't even mention something like this.

The Overloard is part of the Big 8 management group, if I remember
properly. He'd just love to shut these down, leaving the moderated
newsgroup in place.

Michael



I doubt he needs to be disturbed. There are often some interesting threads
in the various groups. The only issue is when someone tries to start some
nonsense thread, either with some silly pseudoscience or the prime
intention of stirring up a row so he can use his quiver of abusive terms.
If he could be ignored or excluded, the environment would be improved.





Brian,

Gee, I wonder who that might be. Maybe someone who isn't a *real*
amateur, and doesn't even belong in these newsgroups?

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On 1/26/2016 12:25 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/26/2016 7:53 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
Michael Black wrote:


These three NGs seem to be largely disused these days, apart from those of
we who are trying to keep discussion about amateur radio alive on Usenet.

Time to face up to facts and to do away with them?



Don't even mention something like this.

The Overloard is part of the Big 8 management group, if I remember
properly. He'd just love to shut these down, leaving the moderated
newsgroup in place.

Michael



I doubt he needs to be disturbed. There are often some interesting threads
in the various groups. The only issue is when someone tries to start some
nonsense thread, either with some silly pseudoscience or the prime
intention of stirring up a row so he can use his quiver of abusive terms.
If he could be ignored or excluded, the environment would be improved.





Brian,

Gee, I wonder who that might be. Maybe someone who isn't a *real*
amateur, and doesn't even belong in these newsgroups?


There are a couple of those who cause problems in the amateur groups.
They've no real interest in amateur radio and often plague other groups as
well. Sometimes they've been blacklisted, removed, etc.

The best thing, if you can't do any of those, is just ignore them.
Eventually they will go and try to annoy someone else. They need the
attention so it is a reliable method.

Yes, we have to ignore the sources of noise... and all the echoes.

--

Rick

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On 1/26/2016 12:25 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/26/2016 7:53 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
Michael Black wrote:


These three NGs seem to be largely disused these days, apart from those of
we who are trying to keep discussion about amateur radio alive on Usenet.

Time to face up to facts and to do away with them?



Don't even mention something like this.

The Overloard is part of the Big 8 management group, if I remember
properly. He'd just love to shut these down, leaving the moderated
newsgroup in place.

Michael



I doubt he needs to be disturbed. There are often some interesting threads
in the various groups. The only issue is when someone tries to start some
nonsense thread, either with some silly pseudoscience or the prime
intention of stirring up a row so he can use his quiver of abusive terms.
If he could be ignored or excluded, the environment would be improved.





Brian,

Gee, I wonder who that might be. Maybe someone who isn't a *real*
amateur, and doesn't even belong in these newsgroups?


There are a couple of those who cause problems in the amateur groups.
They've no real interest in amateur radio and often plague other groups as
well. Sometimes they've been blacklisted, removed, etc.

The best thing, if you can't do any of those, is just ignore them.
Eventually they will go and try to annoy someone else. They need the
attention so it is a reliable method.




The trouble with that is ignoring a problem never makes it go away.
ukra is a perfect example. And there are other newsgroups which have
been effectively destroyed by trolls. Look at alt.computer.consultants,
for instance. It used to be a vibrant, friendly newsgroup. Then trolls
came and chased the consultants away. Finally the trolls got tired and
left. It's now a dead group.

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Brian Reay wrote:
Michael Black wrote:


Don't even mention something like this.

The Overloard is part of the Big 8 management group, if I remember
properly. He'd just love to shut these down, leaving the moderated
newsgroup in place.

Michael



I doubt he needs to be disturbed. There are often some interesting threads
in the various groups. The only issue is when someone tries to start some
nonsense thread, either with some silly pseudoscience or the prime
intention of stirring up a row so he can use his quiver of abusive terms.
If he could be ignored or excluded, the environment would be improved.

This thread is possibly the most blatant attention seeking I've ever seen
from Gareth. Goes to show him for the troll he is, we shun him in ukra so
he comes over here to threaten these group's users with removal of their
forums. Despicable, really.

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On 26/01/2016 17:33, rickman wrote:

The best thing, if you can't do any of those, is just ignore them.
Eventually they will go and try to annoy someone else. They need the
attention so it is a reliable method.

Yes, we have to ignore the sources of noise... and all the echoes.

Over in UKRA we have just instituted this very policy. It is proving so
effective that in the last 24 hours the disruptive elements have nearly
completely gone away - mostly to groups like RRAA and its sisters. One
or two have appeared on legal groups, for example, where they tend to
get the bum's rush also.

You are more than welcome to them.


--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

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On 1/27/2016 4:28 AM, Spike wrote:
On 26/01/2016 17:33, rickman wrote:

The best thing, if you can't do any of those, is just ignore them.
Eventually they will go and try to annoy someone else. They need the
attention so it is a reliable method.

Yes, we have to ignore the sources of noise... and all the echoes.

Over in UKRA we have just instituted this very policy. It is proving so
effective that in the last 24 hours the disruptive elements have nearly
completely gone away - mostly to groups like RRAA and its sisters. One
or two have appeared on legal groups, for example, where they tend to
get the bum's rush also.

You are more than welcome to them.

There are two ways to improve the SNR. Lower the noise or raise the
signal. In this group there just isn't much signal, so even when the
noise is low the SNR is still not good.

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied. I'm
starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who
should post and who should be ignored.

--

Rick

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"rickman" wrote in message
...
I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied. I'm
starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who should
post and who should be ignored.

It takes all sorts and conditions of men (to borrow a phrase from the Church
of
England) to make up the world of amateur radio, whether differing in sex,
sexual
orientation, gender, race, religion, politics, geography, weight, education,
height and hair,
so that it is counter-productive to conduct your self by attacking
individuals.

How much better to discuss only the technical issues raised, and if you do
not
understand those issues, then keep schtum.

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On 27/01/2016 15:33, rickman wrote:

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied. I'm
starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who
should post and who should be ignored.

I saw your post, but didn't reply as I'm not into transmitting loops.
Perhaps no-one really understood your question, it's not the first time
this sort of thing has happened.


--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

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On 27/01/2016 16:16, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied.
I'm starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of
who should post and who should be ignored.

I'll give you a big hint - don't post from google, I and I am sure many
others kill file everything that has "gmail" in the from field. never
saw you post about loop antennas.


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On 1/27/2016 12:21 PM, Je Suis Class A wrote:
On 27/01/2016 16:16, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied.
I'm starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of
who should post and who should be ignored.

I'll give you a big hint - don't post from google, I and I am sure many
others kill file everything that has "gmail" in the from field. never
saw you post about loop antennas.

I didn't post from Google, I use eternal-september. Subject line was
"Capacitor Dielectrics for Transmitting Loop Antennas" and the date was
1/19/2016

--

Rick

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On 1/27/2016 12:02 PM, Spike wrote:
On 27/01/2016 15:33, rickman wrote:

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied. I'm
starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who
should post and who should be ignored.

I saw your post, but didn't reply as I'm not into transmitting loops.
Perhaps no-one really understood your question, it's not the first time
this sort of thing has happened.

My point was not so much about the lack of response to my post in
particular, but the lack of any meaningful posting in the group. When
no one posts anything of interest it only takes a few messages arguing
over who is the biggest troll to make this group irrelevant.

--

Rick

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On 1/27/2016 12:21 PM, Je Suis Class A wrote:
On 27/01/2016 16:16, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied.
I'm starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of
who should post and who should be ignored.

I'll give you a big hint - don't post from google, I and I am sure many
others kill file everything that has "gmail" in the from field. never
saw you post about loop antennas.

I just realized you didn't see my other thread because it was in r.r.a.a
and this thread is crossposted to four groups.

--

Rick

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2016, rickman wrote:

On 1/27/2016 12:02 PM, Spike wrote:
On 27/01/2016 15:33, rickman wrote:

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied. I'm
starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who
should post and who should be ignored.

I saw your post, but didn't reply as I'm not into transmitting loops.
Perhaps no-one really understood your question, it's not the first time
this sort of thing has happened.

My point was not so much about the lack of response to my post in particular,
but the lack of any meaningful posting in the group. When no one posts
anything of interest it only takes a few messages arguing over who is the
biggest troll to make this group irrelevant.

I've replied to a bunch of messages recently, it is harder to start a
thread than to reply. And all of those replies went into the history of
various things, an overview so to speak. It doesn't matter who started
the thread, it's what you do with it.

And yes, spam and other annoyances are not as significant if a newsgroup
is healthy.

Michael

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En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied.

try uk.radio.amateur.moderated. It doesn't suffer from the problem you
cite in the next para.

I'm
starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who
should post and who should be ignored.

"This group"? You're posting to 4.

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(")_(")

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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied.

try uk.radio.amateur.moderated. It doesn't suffer from the problem you
cite in the next para.

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and other
newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the beginning.

Michael



I'm starting to think this group is only interested in the drama of who
should post and who should be ignored.

"This group"? You're posting to 4.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")

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On 1/28/2016 3:22 PM, Michael Black wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , rickman
escribió:

I made a post about loop antennas a week ago and no one replied.

try uk.radio.amateur.moderated. It doesn't suffer from the problem you
cite in the next para.

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and
other newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the
beginning.

Michael



Actually, rram used to be a usable group, with some traffic even as
recently as 2-3 years ago. But the current moderators have driven
everyone away.

I haven't heard anyone say anything good about the way the mods spam
multiple newsgroups by posting copyrighted material without the owners'
permissions.

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Jerry, AI0K

==================

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On 28/01/2016 15:39, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Actually, rram used to be a usable group, with some traffic even as
recently as 2-3 years ago. But the current moderators have driven
everyone away.

I haven't heard anyone say anything good about the way the mods spam
multiple newsgroups by posting copyrighted material without the owners'
permissions.


I'm all against the spamming, but it raises an interesting question - If
you are referring to syndicating the content and the blog author has
published at atom or rss feed then surely it is implied that they are
giving permission to re-distribute it?

Or did you mean some other copyrighted material?

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

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On 1/28/2016 4:22 PM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 28/01/2016 15:39, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Actually, rram used to be a usable group, with some traffic even as
recently as 2-3 years ago. But the current moderators have driven
everyone away.

I haven't heard anyone say anything good about the way the mods spam
multiple newsgroups by posting copyrighted material without the owners'
permissions.


I'm all against the spamming, but it raises an interesting question - If
you are referring to syndicating the content and the blog author has
published at atom or rss feed then surely it is implied that they are
giving permission to re-distribute it?

Or did you mean some other copyrighted material?


By international law, any published material, whether on the internet or
otherwise, is copyrighted and cannot be copied without the explicit
permission of the owner. This includes atom and rss feeds. These may
be distributed to their subscribers, but the subscribers may not
republish without the owners consent.

It's like a newspaper. I get a copy of the Washington Post every day.
I can read it. I can mention articles in passing. But I cannot
republish the article without the Post's permission.

Copyright law makes no distinction. It's the same in both cases.

--
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Jerry, AI0K

==================

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2016 4:22 PM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 28/01/2016 15:39, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Actually, rram used to be a usable group, with some traffic even as
recently as 2-3 years ago. But the current moderators have driven
everyone away.

I haven't heard anyone say anything good about the way the mods spam
multiple newsgroups by posting copyrighted material without the owners'
permissions.


I'm all against the spamming, but it raises an interesting question - If
you are referring to syndicating the content and the blog author has
published at atom or rss feed then surely it is implied that they are
giving permission to re-distribute it?

Or did you mean some other copyrighted material?


By international law, any published material, whether on the internet or
otherwise, is copyrighted and cannot be copied without the explicit
permission of the owner. This includes atom and rss feeds. These may
be distributed to their subscribers, but the subscribers may not
republish without the owners consent.

It's like a newspaper. I get a copy of the Washington Post every day.
I can read it. I can mention articles in passing. But I cannot
republish the article without the Post's permission.

Copyright law makes no distinction. It's the same in both cases.

Whilst I certainly don't speak absolutely definitively, so please don't
take my assertions as gospel, AIUI the rram mod seeks permission from the
author to repost their material. I've seen direct reference to the request
being made in at least 2 or 3 articles posted in the last couple of years.

--
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On 1/28/2016 5:31 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/28/2016 4:22 PM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 28/01/2016 15:39, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


Actually, rram used to be a usable group, with some traffic even as
recently as 2-3 years ago. But the current moderators have driven
everyone away.

I haven't heard anyone say anything good about the way the mods spam
multiple newsgroups by posting copyrighted material without the owners'
permissions.


I'm all against the spamming, but it raises an interesting question - If
you are referring to syndicating the content and the blog author has
published at atom or rss feed then surely it is implied that they are
giving permission to re-distribute it?

Or did you mean some other copyrighted material?


By international law, any published material, whether on the internet or
otherwise, is copyrighted and cannot be copied without the explicit
permission of the owner. This includes atom and rss feeds. These may
be distributed to their subscribers, but the subscribers may not
republish without the owners consent.

It's like a newspaper. I get a copy of the Washington Post every day.
I can read it. I can mention articles in passing. But I cannot
republish the article without the Post's permission.

Copyright law makes no distinction. It's the same in both cases.

Whilst I certainly don't speak absolutely definitively, so please don't
take my assertions as gospel, AIUI the rram mod seeks permission from the
author to repost their material. I've seen direct reference to the request
being made in at least 2 or 3 articles posted in the last couple of years.


In some cases, maybe. But there have also been posts by the authors
saying they didn't know their blogs were being reposted to usenet. I've
seen this a couple of times in the last year.

I wonder if one asked each of the authors being posted if they had given
their permission, what the results would be.

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En el artículo ple.org
, Michael Black escribió:

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and other
newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the beginning.

He (and you and anyone else) is welcome in uk.radio.amateur.moderated.
It's fairly low-traffic at the moment, but the discussions so far have
been of high quality. Quality, not quantity.

Moderation ensures that posts from the demented idiot who wrecks
uk.radio.amateur complete with malicious crossposts to .antenna,
..equipment, .homebrew etc. to maximise the annoyance factor simply don't
see the light of day.

Come along and say hello.

--
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(")_(")

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On 29/01/2016 00:45, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo ple.org
, Michael Black escribió:

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and other
newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the beginning.

He (and you and anyone else) is welcome in uk.radio.amateur.moderated.
It's fairly low-traffic at the moment, but the discussions so far have
been of high quality. Quality, not quantity.

Especially if you like computers, fixing the causes of broken web sites,
or reading the occasional snow report. There's rather less mention of
Amateur Radio topics. However, as the number of posts declines after the
initial enthusiasm has worn off, the group needs all the posts it can
get. Three posters, one of which has limited technical knowledge, post
one quarter of al traffic to date. Half of the 58 contributors to date
post less than once a week. A disturbing proportion of those that voted
for the group have neither posted at all, or posted a few times and have
since disappeared

Moderation ensures that posts from the demented idiot who wrecks
uk.radio.amateur complete with malicious crossposts to .antenna,
..equipment, .homebrew etc. to maximise the annoyance factor simply don't
see the light of day.

That also goes for those who have spent the last three years wrecking
havoc on UKRA. But it should be noted that these people post far more on
UKRA than UKRAM. I'm not of the psychopathology that drives these
actions, but it's interesting to watch.

Come along and say hello.

Please do.

--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

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In message , Spike
writes
On 29/01/2016 00:45, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo ple.org
, Michael Black escribió:

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and other
newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the beginning.

He (and you and anyone else) is welcome in uk.radio.amateur.moderated.
It's fairly low-traffic at the moment, but the discussions so far have
been of high quality. Quality, not quantity.

Especially if you like computers, fixing the causes of broken web
sites, or reading the occasional snow report. There's rather less
mention of Amateur Radio topics.

You continue to fail to understand that uk.r.a.m is not a 100%
strictly-highy-technical-only-about-amateur-radio newsgroup. It's
supposed to like the uk.r.a cesspool could be - if it wasn't for all the
****.

However, as the number of posts declines after the initial enthusiasm
has worn off, the group needs all the posts it can get. Three posters,
one of which has limited technical knowledge, post one quarter of al
traffic to date. Half of the 58 contributors to date post less than
once a week. A disturbing proportion of those that voted for the group
have neither posted at all, or posted a few times and have since disappeared

I have to admit that I really can't work up the enthusiasm to be
'disturbed' by it.

Moderation ensures that posts from the demented idiot who wrecks
uk.radio.amateur complete with malicious crossposts to .antenna,
..equipment, .homebrew etc. to maximise the annoyance factor simply don't
see the light of day.

That also goes for those who have spent the last three years wrecking
havoc on UKRA. But it should be noted that these people post far more
on UKRA than UKRAM. I'm not of the psychopathology that drives these
actions, but it's interesting to watch.

If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase
in the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from
uk.r.a.m's example?

Come along and say hello.

Please do.

Oh, do come along. You actually might enjoy it!
--
Ian

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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase in
the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from uk.r.a.m's
example?

You are wrong, for all that has happened is that we who stand up for the
traditions
of amateur radio have continued in that vein whereas the troublemakers who
voted for
UKRAM, because they couldn't behave unless the kindergarten teacher was
standing over them, have been ostracised.

So the proportion of decent civilised posts may well have increased, but
only
because the troublemakers have been ostracised and, presumably, have
stopped posting now that they no longer receive the oxygen of publicity.

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If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase in
the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from uk.r.a.m's
example?

no brian is still making them and trying to bate gareth but gareth is not
rising to it......look at his katie hopkins post....he just can't leave it
alone......proves he is one of the culprits ....

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"gareth" wrote in message
...
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase
in the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from uk.r.a.m's
example?

You are wrong, for all that has happened is that we who stand up for the
traditions
of amateur radio have continued in that vein whereas the troublemakers who
voted for
UKRAM, because they couldn't behave unless the kindergarten teacher was
standing over them, have been ostracised.

So the proportion of decent civilised posts may well have increased, but
only
because the troublemakers have been ostracised and, presumably, have
stopped posting now that they no longer receive the oxygen of publicity.




naw brian just taunted you......

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
"gareth" wrote in message
...
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase
in the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from
uk.r.a.m's example?
You are wrong, for all that has happened is that we who stand up for the
traditions
of amateur radio have continued in that vein whereas the troublemakers
who voted for
UKRAM, because they couldn't behave unless the kindergarten teacher was
standing over them, have been ostracised.
So the proportion of decent civilised posts may well have increased, but
only
because the troublemakers have been ostracised and, presumably, have
stopped posting now that they no longer receive the oxygen of publicity.
naw brian just taunted you......

I'll have to take your word for that, but without further comment.

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"gareth" wrote in message
...
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
"gareth" wrote in message
...
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase
in the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from
uk.r.a.m's example?
You are wrong, for all that has happened is that we who stand up for the
traditions
of amateur radio have continued in that vein whereas the troublemakers
who voted for
UKRAM, because they couldn't behave unless the kindergarten teacher was
standing over them, have been ostracised.
So the proportion of decent civilised posts may well have increased, but
only
because the troublemakers have been ostracised and, presumably, have
stopped posting now that they no longer receive the oxygen of publicity.
naw brian just taunted you......

I'll have to take your word for that, but without further comment.



it was the beginners house taunt .....

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"gareth" wrote in message
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I'll have to take your word for that, but without further comment.
it was the beginners house taunt .....


Well, he kept insinuating that I had no technical competence, despite
that I graduated in electronics when he was still in short trousers (or,
even nappies, from the way that he cavorts in this NG?)

A beginner, indeed!

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ple.org
, Michael Black escribió:

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and other
newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the beginning.

He (and you and anyone else) is welcome in uk.radio.amateur.moderated.
It's fairly low-traffic at the moment, but the discussions so far have
been of high quality. Quality, not quantity.

Indeed. There are some unsophisticated types who think that the tsunami of
**** in the cesspit is in some way preferable to the comparatively modest
volume of ukram posts, but those perverts are clearly fools.

Moderation ensures that posts from the demented idiot who wrecks
uk.radio.amateur complete with malicious crossposts to .antenna,
.equipment, .homebrew etc. to maximise the annoyance factor simply don't
see the light of day.

He knows that he hasn't got the self-control to adhere to the modpol and
that his ego couldn't handle having posts rejected, so he's given ukram a
wide-berth so far, and that's a win for us decent folk in itself.

Come along and say hello.

All are welcome.

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Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Spike writes
On 29/01/2016 00:45, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ple.org
, Michael Black escribió:

He could post to the rec.radio.amateur.moderated, and he isn't likely to
get an answer. Except for the filler crossposted between there and other
newsgroups, it's a pretty dead newsgroup, has been since the beginning.

He (and you and anyone else) is welcome in uk.radio.amateur.moderated.
It's fairly low-traffic at the moment, but the discussions so far have
been of high quality. Quality, not quantity.

Especially if you like computers, fixing the causes of broken web
sites, or reading the occasional snow report. There's rather less
mention of Amateur Radio topics.

You continue to fail to understand that uk.r.a.m is not a 100%
strictly-highy-technical-only-about-amateur-radio newsgroup. It's
supposed to like the uk.r.a cesspool could be - if it wasn't for all the ****.

AFAICR, it was never postulated by the proponent or moderators during the
RFD that ukram would be technical matters only. Quite the opposite. Spike
doesn't often let reality intrude on his axe grinding, though, particularly
not when he's got this much sand in his vagina.


However, as the number of posts declines after the initial enthusiasm
has worn off, the group needs all the posts it can get. Three posters,
one of which has limited technical knowledge, post one quarter of al
traffic to date. Half of the 58 contributors to date post less than
once a week. A disturbing proportion of those that voted for the
group have neither posted at all, or posted a few times and have since disappeared

I have to admit that I really can't work up the enthusiasm to be 'disturbed' by it.

Moderation ensures that posts from the demented idiot who wrecks
uk.radio.amateur complete with malicious crossposts to .antenna,
..equipment, .homebrew etc. to maximise the annoyance factor simply don't
see the light of day.

That also goes for those who have spent the last three years wrecking
havoc on UKRA. But it should be noted that these people post far more
on UKRA than UKRAM. I'm not of the psychopathology that drives these
actions, but it's interesting to watch.

If I could make an observation:
I might be wrong, but I get the impression that since the creation of
uk.r.a.m, in this cesspit there actually seems to have been an increase
in the number of ****-free posts. Maybe some are learning from uk.r.a.m's example?

Project Shun has done wonders for the group, again.


Come along and say hello.

Please do.

Oh, do come along. You actually might enjoy it!

He's enjoying moaning about it much more than he ever would using it!

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