Are your absolutely positively sure about that.

I am not trying to be cantankerous here, but I don't think there
is specific type acceptance of GMRS or MURS band radios.

In fact you can buy a RS radio and have it programmed for FRS,
or GMRS is you have the Ticket and they will jack up the power,
the rig can also be programmed for business radio. I have a GMRS
rig made by Motorola right in front of me, I am licensed and use it
on a licensed GMRS repeater.... it has no FCC type acceptance on
it at all.

I could be wrong, but I don't find it in the regs anywhere

--
Patrick

Patrick H. Mason MS, OHST, REMT-I
W4PHM, WPWK542

A delusion shared by many is a culture; shared by some is a cult;
shared by 2 is love; but a delusion held by one is psychosis.
wrote in message
oups.com...
You can't use any modified equipment on GMRS. The equipment you use
MUST be GMRS type accepted. And... don't forget you need a license.

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:28:15 GMT, "Patrick"
wrote:

Are your absolutely positively sure about that.

I am not trying to be cantankerous here, but I don't think there
is specific type acceptance of GMRS or MURS band radios.

In fact you can buy a RS radio and have it programmed for FRS,
or GMRS is you have the Ticket and they will jack up the power,
the rig can also be programmed for business radio. I have a GMRS
rig made by Motorola right in front of me, I am licensed and use it
on a licensed GMRS repeater.... it has no FCC type acceptance on
it at all.

I could be wrong, but I don't find it in the regs anywhere

If it was designed and tested by the manufacturer, for that band, and
you are licensed, it is fine.

Reprogramming or opening up MARS/CAP is not the same as modifying the
radio from its original certificated design.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
--
At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

wrote:
You can't use any modified equipment on GMRS. The equipment you use
MUST be GMRS type accepted. And... don't forget you need a license.

For emergency communications it doesn't matter.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...=403&TYPE=TEXT

Sec. 97.403 Safety of life and protection of property.

No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station
of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential
communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human
life and immediate protection of property when normal communication
systems are not available.

"Gary S." wrote:

As for the GMRS license, the manufacturers of the radios do inform
buyers that they need an FCC license, but I have never seen printing
that small before. ;-)

Gary


I guess that you never worked on any '60s Japanese 12 to 20
transistor, transistor radios where the entire schematic was the size of
a postage stamp. You needed a microscope to read them, if they weren't
damaged. they didn't want you to see that only seven or eight
transistors were needed, and the rest had all the leads soldered
together to raise the parts count.

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In article ,
Gary S. Idontwantspam@net wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:28:15 GMT, "Patrick"
wrote:

Are your absolutely positively sure about that.

I am not trying to be cantankerous here, but I don't think there
is specific type acceptance of GMRS or MURS band radios.

In fact you can buy a RS radio and have it programmed for FRS,
or GMRS is you have the Ticket and they will jack up the power,
the rig can also be programmed for business radio. I have a GMRS
rig made by Motorola right in front of me, I am licensed and use it
on a licensed GMRS repeater.... it has no FCC type acceptance on
it at all.

I could be wrong, but I don't find it in the regs anywhere

If it was designed and tested by the manufacturer, for that band, and
you are licensed, it is fine.

Reprogramming or opening up MARS/CAP is not the same as modifying the
radio from its original certificated design.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)

well not to be a spoilsport Gary, but you are wrong in your assertation
above. Any modification of the operating perameters that requires
opening up the case of a Type Accepted Radio, would void the Type
Acceptance of that unit. How do I know this, you may wonder? Well, up
untill the Clinton/gore bloodLetting of the FCC, I was a Field Agent
and enforced these specific Federal Regulations.


Bruce in alaska who once did this for a living......
--
add a 2 before @

All GMRS and FRS equipment must be certified by the FCC. It used to
be called "Type-Acceptance", but the current term is "Certified."
Here is a quote from the GMRS regs.

95.603 Certification required.
(a) Each GMRS transmitter (a transmitter that operates or is intended
to operate at a station authorized in the GMRS) must be type accepted.

You can buy a certified radio from RS and have it programmed for GMRS.
You can also bet next week's paycheck on the fact that the Motorola
radio sitting in front of you was type accepted before it was sold..
Motorola couldn't have sold it otherwise, and it wouldn't have been
available to you. If you look up that Motorola model on the FCC
website, you will be able to find the certification documents. You
also need the FCC ID number which should be on the serial number tag.

Dick - W6CCD



On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:28:15 GMT, "Patrick"
wrote:

Are your absolutely positively sure about that.

I am not trying to be cantankerous here, but I don't think there
is specific type acceptance of GMRS or MURS band radios.

In fact you can buy a RS radio and have it programmed for FRS,
or GMRS is you have the Ticket and they will jack up the power,
the rig can also be programmed for business radio. I have a GMRS
rig made by Motorola right in front of me, I am licensed and use it
on a licensed GMRS repeater.... it has no FCC type acceptance on
it at all.

I could be wrong, but I don't find it in the regs anywhere

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:19:39 -0700, Dick wrote:

You can buy a certified radio from RS and have it programmed for GMRS.
You can also bet next week's paycheck on the fact that the Motorola
radio sitting in front of you was type accepted before it was sold..
Motorola couldn't have sold it otherwise, and it wouldn't have been
available to you. If you look up that Motorola model on the FCC
website, you will be able to find the certification documents. You
also need the FCC ID number which should be on the serial number tag.

Not all FCC type-accepted/certified UHF commercial-band radios are
certified for GMRS - I owned one, a King-Bendix portable - and upon
inquiring why, it turned out that the manufacturer applied for Part
90 (private land-mobile radio services) certification but overlooked
applying for the Part 95 certification because they weren't thinking.

--
Phil Kane - K2ASP -- Beaverton, Oregon
PNW Milepost 754 -- Tillamook District

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:15:11 -0700 (PDT), "Phil Kane"
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:19:39 -0700, Dick wrote:

You can buy a certified radio from RS and have it programmed for GMRS.
You can also bet next week's paycheck on the fact that the Motorola
radio sitting in front of you was type accepted before it was sold..
Motorola couldn't have sold it otherwise, and it wouldn't have been
available to you. If you look up that Motorola model on the FCC
website, you will be able to find the certification documents. You
also need the FCC ID number which should be on the serial number tag.

Not all FCC type-accepted/certified UHF commercial-band radios are
certified for GMRS - I owned one, a King-Bendix portable - and upon
inquiring why, it turned out that the manufacturer applied for Part
90 (private land-mobile radio services) certification but overlooked
applying for the Part 95 certification because they weren't thinking.

Very true. My point was that Motorola wouldn't sell a commercial or
GMRS radio that had not been certified. It's certainly possible it
wasn't certified to the desired band, but the OP stated that his
Motorola radio wasn't certified (to anything was the way I read it.)

Yes Some Mot Business band radios are certified for GMRS but beware
of the bandwidth and power restrictions for that band vs. different
model options. Forget about using the business band radios for FRS
as they aren't compatible. Many GMRS/FRS radios are mode
ambidextrous in order to be compatible.


"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:15:11 -0700 (PDT), "Phil Kane"
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:19:39 -0700, Dick wrote:

You can buy a certified radio from RS and have it programmed for
GMRS.
You can also bet next week's paycheck on the fact that the
Motorola
radio sitting in front of you was type accepted before it was
sold..
Motorola couldn't have sold it otherwise, and it wouldn't have
been
available to you. If you look up that Motorola model on the FCC
website, you will be able to find the certification documents.
You
also need the FCC ID number which should be on the serial number
tag.

Not all FCC type-accepted/certified UHF commercial-band radios
are
certified for GMRS - I owned one, a King-Bendix portable - and
upon
inquiring why, it turned out that the manufacturer applied for
Part
90 (private land-mobile radio services) certification but
overlooked
applying for the Part 95 certification because they weren't
thinking.

Very true. My point was that Motorola wouldn't sell a commercial
or
GMRS radio that had not been certified. It's certainly possible it
wasn't certified to the desired band, but the OP stated that his
Motorola radio wasn't certified (to anything was the way I read
it.)