On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:30:06 GMT, Gary S. Idontwantspam@net wrote:

A completely legal alternative is with a ham HT, with extended RX and
a scanning function, is to include the FRS/GMRS frequencies (with any
CTCSS code on receive being used) and have a separate GMRS rig with
you, but turned off.


Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)

Not sure what you are suggesting here. Why leave the GMRS radio off?
It is certainly legal to use a ham HT to listen to anything but cel
conversations, but very illegal for use to transmit on GMRS
frequencies.

Dick

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:29 -0700, Dick LeadWinger wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:30:06 GMT, Gary S. Idontwantspam@net wrote:

A completely legal alternative is with a ham HT, with extended RX and
a scanning function, is to include the FRS/GMRS frequencies (with any
CTCSS code on receive being used) and have a separate GMRS rig with
you, but turned off.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)

Not sure what you are suggesting here. Why leave the GMRS radio off?

No other reasons than saving batteries, and only listening to one rig.

It is certainly legal to use a ham HT to listen to anything but cel
conversations, but very illegal for use to transmit on GMRS
frequencies.

The poster I was replying to mentioned modding the ham radio to TX on
FRS/GMRS, as well as RX. If extralegal suggestions are made, those
getting them should be fully aware of that fact.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:20:39 GMT, Gary S. Idontwantspam@net wrote:

Not sure what you are suggesting here. Why leave the GMRS radio off?

No other reasons than saving batteries, and only listening to one rig.

OK. I understand if you are wanting to scan other frequencies as well
as FRS/GMRS. Then turn on the GMRS if you need to transmit. That
would make sense.

It is certainly legal to use a ham HT to listen to anything but cel
conversations, but very illegal for use to transmit on GMRS
frequencies.

The poster I was replying to mentioned modding the ham radio to TX on
FRS/GMRS, as well as RX. If extralegal suggestions are made, those
getting them should be fully aware of that fact.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)

I saw someone post possibly modifying his UHF HT to cover FRS/GMRS. I
couldn't tell if he was talking about a ham HT or something else.
Many people aren't aware that it is legal to use a GMRS radio (for
transmit) on ham frequencies, but it is not legal to use a ham radio
on GMRS/FRS frequencies. GMRS/FRS has technical requirements that
most ham radio equipment does not meet. They also have to be
certified. Just wanted to clarify that.

Dick

On 2005-06-12, Dick wrote:

Many people aren't aware that it is legal to use a GMRS radio (for
transmit) on ham frequencies, but it is not legal to use a ham radio
on GMRS/FRS frequencies.

But if you modded the radio to cover 70cm, wouldn't you then be unable
to use it for the licenced FRS bands?

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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:12:30 -0500, Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2005-06-12, Dick wrote:

Many people aren't aware that it is legal to use a GMRS radio (for
transmit) on ham frequencies, but it is not legal to use a ham radio
on GMRS/FRS frequencies.

But if you modded the radio to cover 70cm, wouldn't you then be unable
to use it for the licenced FRS bands?

That would be my understanding.

The certification of the equipment would lapse if it is modified
physically, and it could no longer be used on any service other than
amateur bands.

Programming amateur frequencies into a commercial radio would be fine,
if properly licensed for all of the frequencies.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:08:03 GMT, Gary S. Idontwantspam@net wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:12:30 -0500, Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2005-06-12, Dick wrote:

Many people aren't aware that it is legal to use a GMRS radio (for
transmit) on ham frequencies, but it is not legal to use a ham radio
on GMRS/FRS frequencies.

But if you modded the radio to cover 70cm, wouldn't you then be unable
to use it for the licenced FRS bands?

That would be my understanding.

The certification of the equipment would lapse if it is modified
physically, and it could no longer be used on any service other than
amateur bands.

Programming amateur frequencies into a commercial radio would be fine,
if properly licensed for all of the frequencies.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)

Right. Normally, modification is not necessary. You just program in
the new frequencies. A point of clarification. The FRS is not a
licensed service. It does, however, require certified equipment.

Dick

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:51:48 -0700, Dick LeadWinger wrote:

Right. Normally, modification is not necessary. You just program in
the new frequencies. A point of clarification. The FRS is not a
licensed service. It does, however, require certified equipment.

Regulated service would be more accurate.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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You can't use any modified equipment on GMRS. The equipment you use
MUST be GMRS type accepted. And... don't forget you need a license.

On 19 Jun 2005 06:40:28 -0700, wrote:

You can't use any modified equipment on GMRS. The equipment you use
MUST be GMRS type accepted. And... don't forget you need a license.

The only bands you do not need type accepted/certificated equipment on
are the amateur bands that you are licensed for.

Any modification of a radio in another service will void the type
acceptance.

Actually, commercial broadcasters can modify their equipment, but also
need to monitor their output for any potential problems.

As for the GMRS license, the manufacturers of the radios do inform
buyers that they need an FCC license, but I have never seen printing
that small before. ;-)

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
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"Gary S." wrote:

As for the GMRS license, the manufacturers of the radios do inform
buyers that they need an FCC license, but I have never seen printing
that small before. ;-)

Gary


I guess that you never worked on any '60s Japanese 12 to 20
transistor, transistor radios where the entire schematic was the size of
a postage stamp. You needed a microscope to read them, if they weren't
damaged. they didn't want you to see that only seven or eight
transistors were needed, and the rest had all the leads soldered
together to raise the parts count.

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida