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Shelby Hamfest Travel
Channel 13 - WLOS TV in Asheville, NC is reporting that a number of gas
stations in WNC are closing down due to an outage at the supplier's terminal in Spartanburg, SC. The terminal outage is said to last 3 days or so. Just a heads up - if you're going to Shelby this weekend, might wanna keep 'er topped off as you travel through the affected areas. Just got this clip from http://www.wlos.com./ Mountain Fuel Shortage Hurricane Katrina has knocked out power to many areas in the Gulf States and that's affecting the two major suppliers of fuel in the Southeast. That means delays in fuel deliveries to stations here in Western North Carolina. Wednesday morning we found that some gas stations only had premium. And at least one station, is selling gas for more than $3 dollars a gallon. People are urged to cut back on unnecessary trips and to conserve gasoline as much as possible. If the gas problem continues for several days, cities, towns and counties may ask police and firefighters to stay overnight to be sure they can get to work. |
In South Georgia, gas deliveries to some stations have been suspended until
further notice. In North Georgia stations are running out in smaller towns, and shipments aren't expec6ted before another 3 weeks. At least one small town Sherriff's department has pulled all patrol cars off the street and is only sending out . for emergencies. Ga Governor's office has lifted restrictions on truck drivers carrying gas supplies to allow them to drive more hours than they were previously limited to. "kk4tl" wrote in message oups.com... Channel 13 - WLOS TV in Asheville, NC is reporting that a number of gas stations in WNC are closing down due to an outage at the supplier's terminal in Spartanburg, SC. The terminal outage is said to last 3 days or so. Just a heads up - if you're going to Shelby this weekend, might wanna keep 'er topped off as you travel through the affected areas. Just got this clip from http://www.wlos.com./ Mountain Fuel Shortage Hurricane Katrina has knocked out power to many areas in the Gulf States and that's affecting the two major suppliers of fuel in the Southeast. That means delays in fuel deliveries to stations here in Western North Carolina. Wednesday morning we found that some gas stations only had premium. And at least one station, is selling gas for more than $3 dollars a gallon. People are urged to cut back on unnecessary trips and to conserve gasoline as much as possible. If the gas problem continues for several days, cities, towns and counties may ask police and firefighters to stay overnight to be sure they can get to work. |
On 31 Aug 2005 11:02:36 -0700, "kk4tl" wrote:
Channel 13 - WLOS TV in Asheville, NC is reporting that a number of gas stations in WNC are closing down due to an outage at the supplier's terminal in Spartanburg, SC. The terminal outage is said to last 3 days or so. Just a heads up - if you're going to Shelby this weekend, might wanna keep 'er topped off as you travel through the affected areas. Just got this clip from http://www.wlos.com./ Mountain Fuel Shortage Hurricane Katrina has knocked out power to many areas in the Gulf States and that's affecting the two major suppliers of fuel in the Southeast. That means delays in fuel deliveries to stations here in Western North Carolina. Wednesday morning we found that some gas stations only had premium. And at least one station, is selling gas for more than $3 dollars a gallon. People are urged to cut back on unnecessary trips and to conserve gasoline as much as possible. If the gas problem continues for several days, cities, towns and counties may ask police and firefighters to stay overnight to be sure they can get to work. I was going to drive up there. It is about a 300 mile drive for me. I changed my mind because I'm not sure if I will be able to get gas. From what I hear, they are closing gas stations for the weekend around here. I guess I don't need anymore radio suff that bad. |
"kk4tl" wrote in message oups.com... Channel 13 - WLOS TV in Asheville, NC is reporting that a number of gas stations in WNC are closing down due to an outage at the supplier's terminal in Spartanburg, SC. The terminal outage is said to last 3 days or so. Just a heads up - if you're going to Shelby this weekend, might wanna keep 'er topped off as you travel through the affected areas. Just got this clip from http://www.wlos.com./ Mountain Fuel Shortage Hurricane Katrina has knocked out power to many areas in the Gulf States and that's affecting the two major suppliers of fuel in the Southeast. That means delays in fuel deliveries to stations here in Western North Carolina. Wednesday morning we found that some gas stations only had premium. And at least one station, is selling gas for more than $3 dollars a gallon. People are urged to cut back on unnecessary trips and to conserve gasoline as much as possible. If the gas problem continues for several days, cities, towns and counties may ask police and firefighters to stay overnight to be sure they can get to work. If you come thru Gaffney, SC on I-85 there was fuel at $2.65 (as of 2 PM 8/31) on exit 92 (Pilot and Petro). I notice a lot of spaces that had not been taken at Shelby (I was over there today putting up my tent). There are quite a few campers there as always, and more will prolly arrive tomorrow. I hope it will be a good ''fest inspite of all the fuel troubles. 73 Jerry |
Jerry said
I hope it will be a good ''fest inspite of all the fuel troubles. Agreed, I hope it'll be business as usual. With Dayton spinning down, it's good to see Shelby still standing strong. For those coming up from I-85 south, I'd say top it off in the Greenville/Spartanburg/Gaffney area. For those coming in from I-85 north, better catch some no later than Gastonia or Belmont just before you turn off of I-85 onto Hwy 74. For either situation there's convenience stores and/or truck stops at many exits. |
"kk4tl" wrote in message oups.com... Jerry said I hope it will be a good ''fest inspite of all the fuel troubles. Agreed, I hope it'll be business as usual. With Dayton spinning down, it's good to see Shelby still standing strong. For those coming up from I-85 south, I'd say top it off in the Greenville/Spartanburg/Gaffney area. For those coming in from I-85 north, better catch some no later than Gastonia or Belmont just before you turn off of I-85 onto Hwy 74. For either situation there's convenience stores and/or truck stops at many exits. Today, there are a "fair" amount of 'festers on site with the camper section near 74 Business full. The guy next to me is from New York, so some aren't afraid to travel. The Exxon out there on 74 and 74 Business had their gas at $3.39 per gallon! Petros in Gastonia 10 cent cheaper. IMHO, this is nothing but a lousy attempt to take advantage of one situation and "claim" their huge price increases are valid; it is a GOUGE that I hope BACKFIRES on the oil companies. It's time for consumers to simply NOT buy for a few days and see what happens. Of course, I suspect the gas price will "mysteriously" begin to drop after the Labor Day holiday disguised as refineries being "repaired" ( how concidental that they get repaired right after Labor Day because they can "hide" under the disaster.) I hope they CHOKE on their ill-gotten profits! :( Me, except for attending the hamfes)t, I am sitting at home until the SOB's rot; I can WALK to the grocery store if I have to! Jerry |
"Jerry" writes:
IMHO, this is nothing but a lousy attempt to take advantage of one situation and "claim" their huge price increases are valid; it is a GOUGE that I hope BACKFIRES on the oil companies. Well -- I agree that the price bump in the last few days is suspicious. On the other hand, consider the following: o Forty percent of the nations refinery capacity is at an absolute standstil. o The main pipeline feeding the entire eastern half of the US for what refined products ARE available in storage terminals is running at less than 30% capacity. o The Gulf Coast has the landing terminals for 50% of all crude oil consumed by the US. o Every agency on the ground says it will be *weeks* before things are back to normal. Everything we learned in high-school economics tells us: Prices are going to rise. I fear that it is going to get worse before it gets better. If it makes you feel any better, buy energy stock. It's time for consumers to simply NOT buy for a few days and see what happens. Well, the trick is not to move your purchase decision - a deferred purchase is still a purchase. The trick is to actually lower consumption -- something that, for good or for bad, my countrymen have not shown a great interest in for decades. Of course, I suspect the gas price will "mysteriously" begin to drop after the Labor Day holiday disguised as refineries being "repaired" ( how concidental that they get repaired right after Labor Day because they can "hide" under the disaster.) I cannot believe someone wrote that - Do you honestly suspect the oil industry conspired to make a hurricane happen near a busy travelling weekend? Sometimes an amazing coincidence is just a coincidence. Reminds me "And the second gangster says to the third, `but how were you able to arrange a flood?' ... " [1] Me, except for attending the hamfes)t, I am sitting at home until the SOB's rot; I can WALK to the grocery store if I have to! A great idea all the time -- good for one's health, good for the environment. Now if we just had urban planning that put the grocery stores a teeny bit closer to where we lived ... Of course, I live down in XE land, so we have abundant cheap gasoline (US $2.15 at current exchange rates) and I have three grocery stores within a five minute walk of my house. Jerry 73 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Lawrence Statton - m s/aba/c/g Computer software consists of only two components: ones and zeros, in roughly equal proportions. All that is required is to sort them into the correct order. |
Lawrence Statton N1GAK/XE2 wrote:
Of course, I live down in XE land, so we have abundant cheap gasoline (US $2.15 at current exchange rates) and I have three grocery stores within a five minute walk of my house. Jerry Good for you. The closest grocery to my house isa couple miles away. It is down a busy highway with no place to walk, and I have to use a cane so walking to the grocery is out of the question. Because of this I try to arrange to stop at the grocery when I have to leave the house for another reason. As I always say, "We all have our bears to cross!" ;-) -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Lawrence Statton N1GAK/XE2 wrote: Of course, I live down in XE land, so we have abundant cheap gasoline (US $2.15 at current exchange rates) and I have three grocery stores within a five minute walk of my house. Jerry Good for you. The closest grocery to my house isa couple miles away. It is down a busy highway with no place to walk, and I have to use a cane so walking to the grocery is out of the question. Because of this I try to arrange to stop at the grocery when I have to leave the house for another reason. As I always say, "We all have our bears to cross!" ;-) -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Indeed, there are not so drastic measures consumers can take. Of course, when the price of a commodity rises beyond the price the public as a whole is willing to pay, then the demand falls with an often matching fall in the price. If we just stop in our harried schedule to think, "Wait a sec. Is THIS trip really necessary?" Or, "Can I combine this with an other errand tomorrow". If we made a conscious effort and goal of saving ONE gallon a week in our own driving, how much would that impact the demand for fuel? One gallon--even two--for every vehicle in the USA saved. How about a more ambitious goal? One gallon per DAY=5 gals per workweek X how many drivers on the road at a time = what? Of COURSE, there are trips and business that must be made/done. OTH, how many times do you just hop in the car without a second thought to run down to the Radio Shack and pass the SAME store the next day going to the grocery store? How about slowing down to 55-60 instead of 70 per? How many Escalades do we see each day with ONE person when we could carpool to work (some DO carpool but there are untold numbers that "prefer" to have their car to themselves Heck, I press in the clutch on my little truck and coast down long hills often maintaining 55 while the engine is idling at 600 RPM; at steady state, the engine is at 1700 @ 55, 2100 @ 70. If I don't just HAVE to go, I will just stay at home, piddle in my shop and watch TV. We ALL have to do a little to prevent the profiteers from taking advantage of our spoiled habits of yore. I KNEW "them" Surburbans" would come back to bite us eventually!! :) J |
kk4tl wrote:
Channel 13 - WLOS TV in Asheville, NC is reporting that a number of gas stations in WNC are closing down due to an outage at the supplier's terminal in Spartanburg, SC. The terminal outage is said to last 3 days or so. Just a heads up - if you're going to Shelby this weekend, might wanna keep 'er topped off as you travel through the affected areas. Just got this clip from http://www.wlos.com./ If anyone is using diesel, the local Giant food store here in Laurel, Maryland is selling their brand name vegetable oil and Crisco oil in bottles of a little over two quarts (as of September 2) on sale. It works out to be about $3.10 per gallon. (Today, diesel fuel here was priced at +/- $3.65 per gallon.) A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck. He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries. :-) |
VOA SWLer wrote:
If anyone is using diesel, the local Giant food store here in Laurel, Maryland is selling their brand name vegetable oil and Crisco oil in bottles of a little over two quarts (as of September 2) on sale. It works out to be about $3.10 per gallon. (Today, diesel fuel here was priced at +/- $3.65 per gallon.) A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck. He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries. :-) I wonder if Mel-Fry would be better? Sure makes better fries! -Bill |
-ex- wrote:
VOA SWLer wrote: If anyone is using diesel, the local Giant food store here in Laurel, Maryland is selling their brand name vegetable oil and Crisco oil in bottles of a little over two quarts (as of September 2) on sale. It works out to be about $3.10 per gallon. (Today, diesel fuel here was priced at +/- $3.65 per gallon.) A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck. He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries. :-) I wonder if Mel-Fry would be better? Sure makes better fries! -Bill Do a search on SVO (straight vegetable oil). It is a good match for most diesels, but it usually won't start the engine, and at room temperature is borderline too thick to safely pass through the injectors. The solution to these problems is to start the engine on diesel, and use the engine coolant to preheat the SVO. When the engine is up to temperature, switch to SVO. When you are a couple of miles from the end of your trip, switch back to diesel (to clear the filters, pumps and lines of SVO) Also, if your friend doesn't want to have to fill his truck bed with empty VO bottles, he can buy the stuff in 55 gallon plastic barrels for a much reduced price. -Chuck OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. The road taxes amount to about $1 per gallon of the price of fuel. It is also illegal to run a hybrid using a battery charger, for the same reason... non commercial use is unlikely to be caught in the near term, however. As SVO becomes more popular, I am sure that the local constabulary will find ample time to pull over any vehicle that smells like a fryer. The fines for running untaxed motor fuel on the road are very steep. |
VOA SWLer wrote:
A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck. He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries. It's acidic enough that it will eventually corrode the fuel injectors if he does this for too long without adding some buffering or cutting it with diesel. But that should be fine to get us through the current shortage. Likewise my local paint store is selling VM&P naptha for around $2/gal. A gasoline engine won't run on it alone terribly well, but you can cut gasoline with it without any harm. (Admittedly I say this as a guy with a car that predates catalytic converters). Hmm... what are alcohol prices slike? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
"Chuck Harris" wrote in message ... -ex- wrote: VOA SWLer wrote: If anyone is using diesel, the local Giant food store here in Laurel, Maryland is selling their brand name vegetable oil and Crisco oil in bottles of a little over two quarts (as of September 2) on sale. It works out to be about $3.10 per gallon. (Today, diesel fuel here was priced at +/- $3.65 per gallon.) A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck. He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries. :-) I wonder if Mel-Fry would be better? Sure makes better fries! -Bill Do a search on SVO (straight vegetable oil). It is a good match for most diesels, but it usually won't start the engine, and at room temperature is borderline too thick to safely pass through the injectors. The solution to these problems is to start the engine on diesel, and use the engine coolant to preheat the SVO. When the engine is up to temperature, switch to SVO. When you are a couple of miles from the end of your trip, switch back to diesel (to clear the filters, pumps and lines of SVO) Also, if your friend doesn't want to have to fill his truck bed with empty VO bottles, he can buy the stuff in 55 gallon plastic barrels for a much reduced price. -Chuck OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. The road taxes amount to about $1 per gallon of the price of fuel. It is also illegal to run a hybrid using a battery charger, for the same reason... non commercial use is unlikely to be caught in the near term, however. As SVO becomes more popular, I am sure that the local constabulary will find ample time to pull over any vehicle that smells like a fryer. The fines for running untaxed motor fuel on the road are very steep. How about if I brew up some moonshine and run it in my '31 Model A Ford (hic, excuse me)? ;) Jerry |
Can you provide cites? I can't beleive that i would be breaking a law if
I drove a solar powered vehicle. OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. The road taxes amount to about $1 per gallon of the price of fuel. It is also illegal to run a hybrid using a battery charger, for the same reason... non commercial use is unlikely to be caught in the near term, however. As SVO becomes more popular, I am sure that the local constabulary will find ample time to pull over any vehicle that smells like a fryer. The fines for running untaxed motor fuel on the road are very steep. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY" The Lost Deep Thoughts By: Jack Handey Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's going to throw his best parties. |
**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote:
Can you provide cites? I can't beleive that i would be breaking a law if I drove a solar powered vehicle. Why can't you believe it? The states and feds want their road taxes even more than they want a solution to the fossil fuel problem. Diesel for off the road tractors, and earth movers is untaxed, and is dyed red to make it obvious if a vehicle has ever used the stuff. (It stains the tank red, and the filters. Truckers get checked for this problem at weigh stations. On this I have first hand experience, as I run farm tractors, and earth moving equipment. Here is a cite on that: http://www.bizjournals.com/washingto...3/daily27.html -Chuck |
I know about using heating oil being illegal. But sure enough, I googled
this subject and various state DOT's are trying to get Bio-Diesel categorized for taxation. Still they are not talking about going after solar power, but I am sure that is coming next. By the way, there is a new "initiative" called "open roads", which is everything but open roads. They are trying to put RFID transponders in every car and extract tolls from everywhere you drive. Chuck Harris wrote: **THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote: Can you provide cites? I can't beleive that i would be breaking a law if I drove a solar powered vehicle. Why can't you believe it? The states and feds want their road taxes even more than they want a solution to the fossil fuel problem. Diesel for off the road tractors, and earth movers is untaxed, and is dyed red to make it obvious if a vehicle has ever used the stuff. (It stains the tank red, and the filters. Truckers get checked for this problem at weigh stations. On this I have first hand experience, as I run farm tractors, and earth moving equipment. Here is a cite on that: http://www.bizjournals.com/washingto...3/daily27.html -Chuck -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY" The Lost Deep Thoughts By: Jack Handey Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's going to throw his best parties. |
Chuck Harris wrote:
OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. Who cares? What are the chances of him being stopped by an IRS "revenuer" or a state official because his exhaust smells of french fries? Nil! |
Scott Dorsey wrote:
VOA SWLer wrote: A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck. It's acidic enough that it will eventually corrode the fuel injectors if he does this for too long without adding some buffering or cutting it with diesel. How long would it take to show corrosion of the fuel injectors? 50K miles? 100K miles? But that should be fine to get us through the current shortage. That's right! And, now that the prices for diesel fuel are dropping, Crico oil is more expensive. |
VOA SWLer wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. Who cares? What are the chances of him being stopped by an IRS "revenuer" or a state official because his exhaust smells of french fries? Getting better all the time! When it was just one or two cars doing it, the chances were nil. But now there are websites dedicated to running SVO, or biodiesel. The legislature in MD, for one, had already addressed the issue, and will be taxing biodiesel in all forms. Considering that the fine is in the thousands of dollars, it might be important to you if you decide to run SVO, or off road diesel. -Chuck |
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