Back in the minicomputer days, we had a disk drive for a DEC PDP11-70 on
order. In those days drives were large and heavy, and a single drive might
take up one-third of a rack. Well, the freight truck driver pulled up near
the loading dock, opened the rear doors and backed the semi up to the
loading dock. The driver got out again and looked around for unloading help.
Not finding any help, he climbed inside the trailer and rolled the 120 pound
crate out the back of the truck and down onto the loading dock. The height
difference between the floor of the trailer and the loading dock was about
four feet. The driver pulled forward, closed the trailer doors and drove
off. Needless to say the drive didn't work, and the shock detector inside
the packing crate indicated the drive had suffered at least one large
impulse during shipment from the factory to the customer.

"Chuck Harris" wrote in message
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Phil Kane wrote:
[stuff]
Sounds like bovine excrement to me. I have dealt with companies in the
past...
[stuff]

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"John N9JG" wrote:

Back in the minicomputer days, we had a disk drive for a DEC PDP11-70 on
order. In those days drives were large and heavy, and a single drive might
take up one-third of a rack. Well, the freight truck driver pulled up near
the loading dock, opened the rear doors and backed the semi up to the
loading dock. The driver got out again and looked around for unloading help.
Not finding any help, he climbed inside the trailer and rolled the 120 pound
crate out the back of the truck and down onto the loading dock. The height
difference between the floor of the trailer and the loading dock was about
four feet. The driver pulled forward, closed the trailer doors and drove
off. Needless to say the drive didn't work, and the shock detector inside
the packing crate indicated the drive had suffered at least one large
impulse during shipment from the factory to the customer.

ObAlsoRealLife: the quote below came about following the revelation that
"ruggedised" PDP-11s were made for the military that were *intended* to
be airdropped and remain fully functional. The bind moggles....

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If being dropped out of an aircraft into what is, for all anyone knows,
a minefield is "moderately rough handling", what would constitute
"rough handling" or "very rough handling"? -- David Richerby

Being shipped UPS. -- Dave Brown

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Chris.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:49:54 -0500, "John N9JG"
wrote:

Back in the minicomputer days, we had a disk drive for a DEC PDP11-70 on
order. In those days drives were large and heavy, and a single drive might
take up one-third of a rack. Well, the freight truck driver pulled up near
the loading dock, opened the rear doors and backed the semi up to the
loading dock. The driver got out again and looked around for unloading help.
Not finding any help, he climbed inside the trailer and rolled the 120 pound
crate out the back of the truck and down onto the loading dock. The height
difference between the floor of the trailer and the loading dock was about
four feet. The driver pulled forward, closed the trailer doors and drove
off. Needless to say the drive didn't work, and the shock detector inside
the packing crate indicated the drive had suffered at least one large
impulse during shipment from the factory to the customer.


Not as serious, but I once had a drive about 2x3x4 feet in
size merely dropped off by UPS on an unattended, open loading dock --
no signature taken. That was on the shipper for not requiring a sig.
But it stood on the dock, only occasionally attended, for another
three days, with no notice to me -- my company's bad. When I fnally
called the vendor, they chased it down (pre-tracking-website) and
found it had been delivered three days earlier.

Dumb vendor -- when we later replacd a line printer with a
faster one, they were supposed to come and pick up the old one. They
screwed around for four months and finally came around for the
printer, on the third floor of a three-story building. Ha-ha -- by
that time, the freight elevator was out of service for a couple of
weeks for re-building. The vendor had to hire another outfit to come
out with expensive equipment capable of walking a heavy printer down
two wrapped flights of stairs.


"Chuck Harris" wrote in message
...
Phil Kane wrote:
[stuff]
Sounds like bovine excrement to me. I have dealt with companies in the
past...
[stuff]

In article ,
"John N9JG" wrote:

Back in the minicomputer days, we had a disk drive for a DEC PDP11-70 on
order. In those days drives were large and heavy, and a single drive might
take up one-third of a rack. Well, the freight truck driver pulled up near
the loading dock, opened the rear doors and backed the semi up to the
loading dock. The driver got out again and looked around for unloading help.
Not finding any help, he climbed inside the trailer and rolled the 120 pound
crate out the back of the truck and down onto the loading dock. The height
difference between the floor of the trailer and the loading dock was about
four feet. The driver pulled forward, closed the trailer doors and drove
off. Needless to say the drive didn't work, and the shock detector inside
the packing crate indicated the drive had suffered at least one large
impulse during shipment from the factory to the customer.


back in the "old days" didn't ups have a 70 lb limit on all boxes?

mike murphy wrote:

In article ,
"John N9JG" wrote:


back in the "old days" didn't ups have a 70 lb limit on all boxes?

Now it's 150 lbs except for Hazmat which is still 70 lbs.
I deal with UPS daily and they SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hazmat non-conus is generally sent Fed Ex and I use them everyday.
Given a choice I would ship DHL or Fed-Ex always!

In article ,
" wrote:

mike murphy wrote:

In article ,
"John N9JG" wrote:


back in the "old days" didn't ups have a 70 lb limit on all boxes?

Now it's 150 lbs except for Hazmat which is still 70 lbs.
I deal with UPS daily and they SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hazmat non-conus is generally sent Fed Ex and I use them everyday.
Given a choice I would ship DHL or Fed-Ex always!

We switched to fedex 2 years+ ago, no complaints.

ups drivers are nice guys ( they still bring stuff here, and pick up on
ocasion) but the company ( mostly insurence issues for us) sucks.

from my experience, they treat every insurence claim like fraud on the
part of their customers.

used ups for international shipments at the req of customers, they
messed up more times than not.

mike murphy wrote:
In article ,
"John N9JG" wrote:


Back in the minicomputer days, we had a disk drive for a DEC PDP11-70 on
order. In those days drives were large and heavy, and a single drive might
take up one-third of a rack. Well, the freight truck driver pulled up near
the loading dock, opened the rear doors and backed the semi up to the
loading dock. The driver got out again and looked around for unloading help.
Not finding any help, he climbed inside the trailer and rolled the 120 pound
crate out the back of the truck and down onto the loading dock. The height
difference between the floor of the trailer and the loading dock was about
four feet. The driver pulled forward, closed the trailer doors and drove
off. Needless to say the drive didn't work, and the shock detector inside
the packing crate indicated the drive had suffered at least one large
impulse during shipment from the factory to the customer.



back in the "old days" didn't ups have a 70 lb limit on all boxes?

Yep, this was a diversion to a gripe about an unnamed freight company.

-Chuck

Busted by the ShockWatch !

Same thing happend to me, several
Datapoint computers (1985)
all had been subjected to over 5g's
so we refused the shipment,
shipper had to pay big $$$ to have
new items reshipped via a competior !

Busted by the ShockWatch !

Same thing happend to me, several
Datapoint computers (1985)
all had been subjected to over 5g's
so we refused the shipment,
shipper had to pay big $$$ to have
new items reshipped via a competior !

Busted by the ShockWatch !

Same thing happend to me, several
Datapoint computers (1985)
all had been subjected to over 5g's
so we refused the shipment,
shipper had to pay big $$$ to have
new items reshipped via a competior !