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Mike Coslo July 22nd 03 02:56 AM

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
y.com...

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...

In article , Mike Coslo wrote:


This cannot be, for no one wants to take anything away from Morse code
users.

Why not, 8 years ago, the Arrl did a survey. They asked amateurs who had
passed a morse code exam if they EVER used morse code. Two out of three
responded "no". I.e. 2/3's of the hams surveyed NEVER used morse code.

Of course in those days they spun it as "1 out 3 sometimes uses morse


code".

So if it came to a vote you'd have a hard time keeping things as they


are.

Geoff.


The ARRL had a new survey in the last 6 months. Half of the respondants


use

morse any where from occasionally to 100% of the time. Morse code usage
appears to be on the rise. In the past year, participation in the ARRL
Morse contests showed an increase of 20% over the previous year.
Participation in the voice contests was practically the same as last year
with virtually no growth.

So that 8 year old survey does not reflect today's situation.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Forget it Dee. You cant convince the no coder. They believe their own
propaganda.


What I would like to know is where are our NCI buddies? Aren't they
against this sort of thing? Where is Carl jumping to our defense? Bill
Sohl? Where have ya gone, Joe DiMaggio?






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Ryan, KC8PMX July 22nd 03 04:48 AM

Oh no! And "Skylab is falling" cried Chicken Little....


"Joe Collins" wrote in message
...
Now that Bruce Parens and NCI have won the CW wars, what will happen
to the exclusive CW allocations if a CW requirement is dropped?
Certainly there can be no argument for keeping the current band
structure in place, and phone operations probably ought to be spread
out into what was once exclusively reserved for CW operators. Not
only would this alleviate the congestion in the phone bands, but it
would finally and officially place CW into perspective: Just another
optional mode of operation without any exclusive rights to any
frequency.




Dan/W4NTI July 22nd 03 09:34 PM


"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...
Dee D. Flint wrote:

The ARRL had a new survey in the last 6 months. Half of the respondants

use
morse any where from occasionally to 100% of the time. Morse code usage
appears to be on the rise. In the past year, participation in the ARRL
Morse contests showed an increase of 20% over the previous year.
Participation in the voice contests was practically the same as last year
with virtually no growth.



If this is the case, then Morse code has a good future. No need to
worry that you
won't be able to find someone to have a QSO when you do a CQ.


Its not a problem for a couple of decades anyway. As soon as the 'flood' of
no code braindeads show up on phone...CW will be so full you can't get a
beep in.

Dan/W4NTI



Jim Hampton July 23rd 03 12:49 AM

Hans,

I might *gently* remind folks that there are no limitations on CW either :))

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"K0HB" wrote in message
news:ed9e3d3ed0c3403349a2a6882a98d900.128005@mygat e.mailgate.org...
"Joe Collins" wrote in message


....what will happen to the exclusive CW allocations....


Except in the USA, most amateurs do not labor under "sub-bands" based on
mode. As an example Canadian amateur have no such restrictions. It's a
source of continuing wonder to me that the FCC continues to arbitrarily
slice and dice the bands based on mode, license class, power levels, and
similar artificial constructs of their imagination.

73, de Hans, K0HB

PS: There are no "exclusive CW allocations" below 50MHz.



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Brian Kelly July 24th 03 01:31 AM

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ...
Not a problem...let all the no code braindeads have phone. I'll just run cw
on top of them with my narrow filter.


We already do that. They're never get it.

Dan/W4NTI


w3rv

Dan/W4NTI July 24th 03 10:17 PM


"I Zorg" wrote in message
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On 23 Jul 2003 17:31:39 -0700, Brian Kelly wrote:
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message

...
Not a problem...let all the no code braindeads have phone. I'll just

run cw
on top of them with my narrow filter.


We already do that. They're never get it.
--------------------^^^^^^^
w3rv


Can't you see this guy with a key? No wonder people on the other
end never "get it." He can't even construct a meaningful sentence!

And he's talking about jamming other operators to boot! Ain't CW
operators a cut above the rest? (not)


Jamming? How can I be jamming if Im dead zero beat and you dont hear a
thing? IDIOT.

Dan/W4NTI



Scott Unit 69 July 25th 03 01:09 AM

Man, it's a damned good thing that you CW operators will soon be put in your
place by the FCC. Just nothing but a bunch of jammers. Pitiful lids. It's
time you were put in your places.



They are only "jamming" for milliseconds. :

Dan/W4NTI July 25th 03 01:13 AM


"I Zorg" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:17:58 -0500, Dan/W4NTI

wrote:

Jamming? How can I be jamming if Im dead zero beat and you dont hear a
thing? IDIOT.


If you interefere with another licensed amateur's transmissions, you are
an illegal jammer IDIOT!!!

Zero beat or not (and I'll bet you aren't smart enough to really do that),
any act of willful interference which causes receiver desensing or any

other
kind of problem is AGAINST THE LAW.

IDIOT!!

Man, it's a damned good thing that you CW operators will soon be put in

your
place by the FCC. Just nothing but a bunch of jammers. Pitiful lids.

It's
time you were put in your places.


Nothing to worry about. You wont recognize cw if it bit you on the ass.
That is obvious from your stupid comments.

Oh and BTW...what makes you think because CW testing will be ended that CW
itself will be ended? You really are a stupid idiot ain't ya?

Dan/W4NTI





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