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'Doc August 23rd 03 09:26 PM

Marty,
I had a '706 for about a year in the mobile. It did exactly
what it claimed it would do and isn't a bad radio at all. I had
a problem with the programming, etc., just too 'busy' a radio
for
~me~ to use in the mobile. There were some things that if I
wanted
to change, I had to pull over and stop to do. I also didn't
have
much use for the VHF/UHF sections, just didn't do much up
there.
So, I swapped it for another radio (like I'd had before the
'706).
The '706 is a nice little radio with the emphasis being on
little.
I was really happy with some of it's features, but just too 'fat
fingered' to keep it.
'Doc

'Doc August 23rd 03 09:26 PM

Marty,
I had a '706 for about a year in the mobile. It did exactly
what it claimed it would do and isn't a bad radio at all. I had
a problem with the programming, etc., just too 'busy' a radio
for
~me~ to use in the mobile. There were some things that if I
wanted
to change, I had to pull over and stop to do. I also didn't
have
much use for the VHF/UHF sections, just didn't do much up
there.
So, I swapped it for another radio (like I'd had before the
'706).
The '706 is a nice little radio with the emphasis being on
little.
I was really happy with some of it's features, but just too 'fat
fingered' to keep it.
'Doc

G.Balinski August 30th 03 04:03 PM

I have done side by side comparison of a 102" whip tuned by an AH-4
equivalent vs. a resonant style antenna such as the Hustler series. On
40m, There was a repeatable 1 "S"unit difference in rx signal and tx signal
strength. I did not have the chance to check it on other bands, but the
difference would probably decrease as you got closer to 10m, and increase as
you went to 75/80m

Bottom line is that if you want/need performance in a mobile environ, use
some sort of resonant antenna, especially on the lower bands. However, a
102" whip will do for convenience. Or you can split the difference and get
a screw-driver style antenna.

73
K1NR



"sideband" wrote in message
gy.com...
Try Radio Shack for the 102" whip.. they still sell em

Oh, and for kicks, you might want to chuckle at my insanity while
looking at a similar setup at http://www.csotbs.org/ai8w/TruckPics

I sold that truck, and haven't had a chance to reconstruct that system
on the new truck yet, but it's coming.

73 de AI8W, Chris

Nitespark wrote:



Bob Cook wrote:

Re 20 meter hamstick and AH-4:

Do you mean you are using an AH-4 to tune the 20 m hamstick
to other bands? If so, to which bands and what kind of SWR's?

Bob K9KKY



I have used it on 40 meters successfully and on 15 and 10. The SWR is
perfect. The efficiency of the system is not so good. I can do the
same thing with my Webster BandSpanner. My biggest problem is being
mobile when there is a band opening. Havn't found that many on 15 & 10
recently....at least when I have been in the car.

With the AH-4, it really doesn't matter what I put back on the antenna
mount. It will find he L/C combination and match it to the radio
(within reason of course...obviously can't use a 1/4 wave UHF spike on
40 meters). I have been looking around for a 102" CB whip. That would
work as well as anything.





G.Balinski August 30th 03 04:03 PM

I have done side by side comparison of a 102" whip tuned by an AH-4
equivalent vs. a resonant style antenna such as the Hustler series. On
40m, There was a repeatable 1 "S"unit difference in rx signal and tx signal
strength. I did not have the chance to check it on other bands, but the
difference would probably decrease as you got closer to 10m, and increase as
you went to 75/80m

Bottom line is that if you want/need performance in a mobile environ, use
some sort of resonant antenna, especially on the lower bands. However, a
102" whip will do for convenience. Or you can split the difference and get
a screw-driver style antenna.

73
K1NR



"sideband" wrote in message
gy.com...
Try Radio Shack for the 102" whip.. they still sell em

Oh, and for kicks, you might want to chuckle at my insanity while
looking at a similar setup at http://www.csotbs.org/ai8w/TruckPics

I sold that truck, and haven't had a chance to reconstruct that system
on the new truck yet, but it's coming.

73 de AI8W, Chris

Nitespark wrote:



Bob Cook wrote:

Re 20 meter hamstick and AH-4:

Do you mean you are using an AH-4 to tune the 20 m hamstick
to other bands? If so, to which bands and what kind of SWR's?

Bob K9KKY



I have used it on 40 meters successfully and on 15 and 10. The SWR is
perfect. The efficiency of the system is not so good. I can do the
same thing with my Webster BandSpanner. My biggest problem is being
mobile when there is a band opening. Havn't found that many on 15 & 10
recently....at least when I have been in the car.

With the AH-4, it really doesn't matter what I put back on the antenna
mount. It will find he L/C combination and match it to the radio
(within reason of course...obviously can't use a 1/4 wave UHF spike on
40 meters). I have been looking around for a 102" CB whip. That would
work as well as anything.





W5DXP August 30th 03 07:10 PM

G.Balinski wrote:
I have done side by side comparison of a 102" whip tuned by an AH-4
equivalent vs. a resonant style antenna such as the Hustler series. On
40m, There was a repeatable 1 "S"unit difference in rx signal and tx signal
strength. I did not have the chance to check it on other bands, but the
difference would probably decrease as you got closer to 10m, and increase as
you went to 75/80m


As a matter of fact, it was measured on 75m. My 11.5' whip with an SGC-230
tuner was 12dB down from my top-loaded junk box antenna. That's two (or more)
S-units. A 9' whip would be even worse. Why spend all that money on a tuner
that dissipates 94% more power than a tuned 75m mobile antenna that costs
less than the tuner?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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W5DXP August 30th 03 07:10 PM

G.Balinski wrote:
I have done side by side comparison of a 102" whip tuned by an AH-4
equivalent vs. a resonant style antenna such as the Hustler series. On
40m, There was a repeatable 1 "S"unit difference in rx signal and tx signal
strength. I did not have the chance to check it on other bands, but the
difference would probably decrease as you got closer to 10m, and increase as
you went to 75/80m


As a matter of fact, it was measured on 75m. My 11.5' whip with an SGC-230
tuner was 12dB down from my top-loaded junk box antenna. That's two (or more)
S-units. A 9' whip would be even worse. Why spend all that money on a tuner
that dissipates 94% more power than a tuned 75m mobile antenna that costs
less than the tuner?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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H. Adam Stevens August 30th 03 07:32 PM

Hey Cecil
I have both the AT180 and the AH4.
They're on a shelf.
In a closet.
I use a resonant Hustler with a toroidal matching transformer.
I want a screwdriver-type antenna.
73
H.
NQ5H

OB 706 comment: Good radio. Great audio.
Have one in the truck.


"W5DXP" wrote in message
...
G.Balinski wrote:
I have done side by side comparison of a 102" whip tuned by an AH-4
equivalent vs. a resonant style antenna such as the Hustler series. On
40m, There was a repeatable 1 "S"unit difference in rx signal and tx

signal
strength. I did not have the chance to check it on other bands, but the
difference would probably decrease as you got closer to 10m, and

increase as
you went to 75/80m


As a matter of fact, it was measured on 75m. My 11.5' whip with an SGC-230
tuner was 12dB down from my top-loaded junk box antenna. That's two (or

more)
S-units. A 9' whip would be even worse. Why spend all that money on a

tuner
that dissipates 94% more power than a tuned 75m mobile antenna that costs
less than the tuner?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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H. Adam Stevens August 30th 03 07:32 PM

Hey Cecil
I have both the AT180 and the AH4.
They're on a shelf.
In a closet.
I use a resonant Hustler with a toroidal matching transformer.
I want a screwdriver-type antenna.
73
H.
NQ5H

OB 706 comment: Good radio. Great audio.
Have one in the truck.


"W5DXP" wrote in message
...
G.Balinski wrote:
I have done side by side comparison of a 102" whip tuned by an AH-4
equivalent vs. a resonant style antenna such as the Hustler series. On
40m, There was a repeatable 1 "S"unit difference in rx signal and tx

signal
strength. I did not have the chance to check it on other bands, but the
difference would probably decrease as you got closer to 10m, and

increase as
you went to 75/80m


As a matter of fact, it was measured on 75m. My 11.5' whip with an SGC-230
tuner was 12dB down from my top-loaded junk box antenna. That's two (or

more)
S-units. A 9' whip would be even worse. Why spend all that money on a

tuner
that dissipates 94% more power than a tuned 75m mobile antenna that costs
less than the tuner?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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Cecil Moore August 30th 03 07:44 PM

H. Adam Stevens wrote:

Hey Cecil
I have both the AT180 and the AH4.
They're on a shelf.
In a closet.


To be fair, if all anyone wants to cover mobile is 20m-10m,
an 11.5' whip and an SGC-230 did a remarkable job for me.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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Cecil Moore August 30th 03 07:44 PM

H. Adam Stevens wrote:

Hey Cecil
I have both the AT180 and the AH4.
They're on a shelf.
In a closet.


To be fair, if all anyone wants to cover mobile is 20m-10m,
an 11.5' whip and an SGC-230 did a remarkable job for me.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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