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How to deal with SSB in the 40 mtr CW band
How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is
showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
"GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
"GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? Tis the CQ WPX SSB Contest. URL: http://home.woh.rr.com/wpx/ A lot of countries outside the USA have phone privileges in the lower part of 40 Meters. Example - Canada -- see URL: http://www.eham.net/newham/bands Click on Canadian HF Band Allocation Get 7.050 to 7.100 -- SSB CL |
In article wA41e.754$k57.212@fed1read07, Caveat Lector wrote:
A lot of countries outside the USA have phone privileges in the lower part of 40 Meters. Almost ALL countries outside of the Americas ONLY have 7.000 to 7.100 for 40 meters. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: 972-2-679-6896 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 VoIP (Email to schedule) Free World Dialup: 523178 Skype: gsmendelson |
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
... In article wA41e.754$k57.212@fed1read07, Caveat Lector wrote: A lot of countries outside the USA have phone privileges in the lower part of 40 Meters. Almost ALL countries outside of the Americas ONLY have 7.000 to 7.100 for 40 meters. Geoff. Guess that is a lot of them (;-) -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:MHj1e.943$k57.479@fed1read07... "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message ... In article wA41e.754$k57.212@fed1read07, Caveat Lector wrote: A lot of countries outside the USA have phone privileges in the lower part of 40 Meters. Almost ALL countries outside of the Americas ONLY have 7.000 to 7.100 for 40 meters. Geoff. Considering the WPX is on, the USA hams are operating splits like 7024/7220, why not put that nice rig to work earning a few qso's instead of complaining about the rest of the world? (and learn a bit more about it too) Nana |
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:53:12 GMT, GeorgeF
wrote: Because I like operating CW, not SSB. I got into HF for CW, not SSB. Did you get into it only for 40 Meters? Because 40 is the only band where you run into the problem to the degree that it might be difficult to operate. And you never run into that problem on 30 or 80. -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
nana wrote:
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:MHj1e.943$k57.479@fed1read07... "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message ... In article wA41e.754$k57.212@fed1read07, Caveat Lector wrote: A lot of countries outside the USA have phone privileges in the lower part of 40 Meters. Almost ALL countries outside of the Americas ONLY have 7.000 to 7.100 for 40 meters. Geoff. Considering the WPX is on, the USA hams are operating splits like 7024/7220, why not put that nice rig to work earning a few qso's instead of complaining about the rest of the world? (and learn a bit more about it too) Nana Because I like operating CW, not SSB. I got into HF for CW, not SSB. George |
LRod wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:53:12 GMT, GeorgeF wrote: Because I like operating CW, not SSB. I got into HF for CW, not SSB. Did you get into it only for 40 Meters? Because 40 is the only band where you run into the problem to the degree that it might be difficult to operate. And you never run into that problem on 30 or 80. With the recenty thunderstorms which moved through the area QRN is very high on 80, about S9. On most nights my 80 meter noise level is S1 at most..... My antenna doesn't work very well on 30 meters, got to put something else up for 30 meters. Currently using a W5GI Mystery Ant (www.w5gi.com) and it does well on most bands but not 30 Meters. George |
"GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... LRod wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:53:12 GMT, GeorgeF wrote: Because I like operating CW, not SSB. I got into HF for CW, not SSB. Well, in this country the CW sub-band runs from 7000 - 7030, digital from 7030 - 7040 and SSB from 7040 up. I'm not stopping operating allowed modes within MY regions bandplan to help you justify the cost of your radio. With the recenty thunderstorms which moved through the area QRN is very high on 80, about S9. On most nights my 80 meter noise level is S1 at most..... My antenna doesn't work very well on 30 meters, got to put something else up for 30 meters. Currently using a W5GI Mystery Ant (www.w5gi.com) and it does well on most bands but not 30 Meters. I suppose you want to complain about us running SSB on 30m too? Brad in VK George |
"GeorgeF" wrote in message .net... nana wrote: "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:MHj1e.943$k57.479@fed1read07... "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message .. . In article wA41e.754$k57.212@fed1read07, Caveat Lector wrote: A lot of countries outside the USA have phone privileges in the lower part of 40 Meters. Almost ALL countries outside of the Americas ONLY have 7.000 to 7.100 for 40 meters. Geoff. Considering the WPX is on, the USA hams are operating splits like 7024/7220, why not put that nice rig to work earning a few qso's instead of complaining about the rest of the world? (and learn a bit more about it too) Nana Because I like operating CW, not SSB. I got into HF for CW, not SSB. George There are no contests on the WARC bands, 30M, 17M, and 12M And 30M is all CW or Data -- no phone. A DXer reported working the FT5XO Dxpedition on 30M with just three calls last night. If you are going to work CW -- get some good antennas in the CW bands. If noise is a problem on 80 or 160M, make a low noise receiving loop. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! |
For much of the rest of the world, 40 meters is 7.000 to 7.100.
It may come as a shock to you but there are other places in the world where there are amateur radio operators and their bands do not always match up with ours -- 40 is a good example. -- ----- Joe S. "GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important
in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil "Joe S." wrote in message ... For much of the rest of the world, 40 meters is 7.000 to 7.100. It may come as a shock to you but there are other places in the world where there are amateur radio operators and their bands do not always match up with ours -- 40 is a good example. -- ----- Joe S. "GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? |
Well sir in Southern California, in the last year or so, we have trained
about 30 school kids who obtained their license. Donations have been made to set up complete Ham stations at the schools. In our repeater club there are well over 75 members age 25 and below. At our field day, we had two troops of boy scouts who got on the radio. Several went on to get a license. Ditto for the JOTA day (if you know what that is) The kids loved PSK31 - no internet they asked. How many youths have you trained ??? Well sir when theSAN DIEGO COUNTY was ON FI CEDAR FIRE LARGEST IN STATE HISTORY 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned I repeat 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned It was a disaster of unimagined proportions. I can assure you that Amateur Radio was quite relevant -- to the tune of over 500 Amateurs participating. Won accolades from local officials and the media. Are you a member of ARES or RACES ? Are you prepared for the BIG one that will surely come your way? Well are you? When the cell phones are out, telephone lines are toast, power is lost, you will wish you had a battery operated mountain top repeater. Ours was on battery power or portable generator power for 3 days after the commercial power was lost. Do you support such a repeater, are you even a Ham? Support Amateur Radio or rely on your silly phone - the choice is yours. You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil How can any ham sign 73, after writing all this anti-ham BS |
"Jim" wrote in message ... Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? If Phil is a Ham I'll bet he will be the first on the air when the disaster hits his area. His silly phone and internet of "Advanced Technology" will be deader than a dodo. CL. |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:nVy1e.1181$k57.1159@fed1read07... Considering the WPX is on, the USA hams are operating splits like 7024/7220, why not put that nice rig to work earning a few qso's instead of complaining about the rest of the world? (and learn a bit more about it too) Nana Because I like operating CW, not SSB. I got into HF for CW, not SSB. George There are no contests on the WARC bands, 30M, 17M, and 12M And 30M is all CW or Data -- no phone. Like I said, learn more about the other regions, the rest of the world does not use the same bandplan as the USA (thank God for that!) VK have phone privileges on 30m. Excellent band for 600km range communications mobile, by day, which is about the distance from Sydney to Brisbane and Sydney to Melbourne. SSB from 10115 - 10140. Main calling on 10120, secondary 10125. Brad in VK |
"Jim" wrote in message ... Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? I am, so I do. |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:roE1e.1260$k57.531@fed1read07... "Jim" wrote in message ... Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? If Phil is a Ham I'll bet he will be the first on the air when the disaster hits his area. His silly phone and internet of "Advanced Technology" will be deader than a dodo. CL. You have the same level of comprehension skill as Hans. Kindly point out where I mentioned *phone and internet* in my posting? Then again, nevermind, it is beyond you. 73, Rabbi Phil |
Jim wrote: Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? Because he has nothing better to do with his life or with Advanced Technology. w3rv |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:qoE1e.1259$k57.360@fed1read07... Well sir in Southern California, in the last year or so, we have trained about 30 school kids who obtained their license. Donations have been made to set up complete Ham stations at the schools. In our repeater club there are well over 75 members age 25 and below. At our field day, we had two troops of boy scouts who got on the radio. Several went on to get a license. Ditto for the JOTA day (if you know what that is) The kids loved PSK31 - no internet they asked. How many youths have you trained ??? Well sir when theSAN DIEGO COUNTY was ON FI CEDAR FIRE LARGEST IN STATE HISTORY 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned I repeat 16 dead, 2,342 single family dwellings & 383,657 acres burned It was a disaster of unimagined proportions. I can assure you that Amateur Radio was quite relevant -- to the tune of over 500 Amateurs participating. Won accolades from local officials and the media. Are you a member of ARES or RACES ? Are you prepared for the BIG one that will surely come your way? Well are you? When the cell phones are out, telephone lines are toast, power is lost, you will wish you had a battery operated mountain top repeater. Ours was on battery power or portable generator power for 3 days after the commercial power was lost. Do you support such a repeater, are you even a Ham? Support Amateur Radio or rely on your silly phone - the choice is yours. You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil How can any ham sign 73, after writing all this anti-ham BS There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil |
wrote in message oups.com... Jim wrote: Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? Because he has nothing better to do with his life or with Advanced Technology. w3rv Profound! Perhaps you can assist Hans with his reading & comprehension skills. |
Rabbi Phil wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Jim wrote: Rabbi Phil wrote: It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? 73, Rabbi Phil Why do you subscribe to amateur radio groups if you hate hams? Because he has nothing better to do with his life or with Advanced Technology. w3rv Profound! Perhaps you can assist Hans with his reading & comprehension=20 skills. sigh snore=B2=20 w3rv |
" "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? CL replied; You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil But my good sir, I am a Psychiatrist. Now to continue -- when did you first start to hate Hams? CL |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:YxV1e.1882$k57.1275@fed1read07... " "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? CL replied; You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil But my good sir, I am a Psychiatrist. Now to continue -- when did you first start to hate Hams? CL You should really learn to control your temper. 73, Rabbi Phil |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:YxV1e.1882$k57.1275@fed1read07... " "Rabbi Phil" in total ignorance wrote in message ... It may be even more of shock that ham radio operators are important in their eyes only. Ham radio has been irrelevant for years, hams just have not realized it yet, and probably never will. "How come the young kids aren't coming into ham radio anymore."? duhhhhhhhh, anyone hear about Advanced Technology? CL replied; You need to do some research before you blather out this stereotype nonsense. There is a "Psychiatrist-To-Hams who sometimes visits here. You should strive to set an appointment with him at your earliest. 73, Rabbi Phil But my good sir, I am a Psychiatrist. Now to continue -- when did you first start to hate Hams? CL Probably when he found out he couldn't muster what it took to pass an exam! I've seen quite a few of them. The "hand it to me" types. Afraid to put forth a little effort in life. I knew a lady once who bombed a test like 3 times, blamed everyone but herself. It wasn't our fault she didn't study or was too slow to be able to comprehend the material. cl |
Boy has this turned into a rats nest of smart answers. I use an Autek QF-1A
filter cranked in real tight and the SSB is so well cleaned up I still can copy most CW signals through it. I'm sure that the newer DSP rigs do a much better job but are out of my price reach. Good luck and may CW live forever. 73, Ken "GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
DSP would do a poor job of cleaning out SSB signals for CW copy. You would
do bunches better with using your Autek as you are doing. Dan/W4NTI "Photoman" wrote in message ... Boy has this turned into a rats nest of smart answers. I use an Autek QF-1A filter cranked in real tight and the SSB is so well cleaned up I still can copy most CW signals through it. I'm sure that the newer DSP rigs do a much better job but are out of my price reach. Good luck and may CW live forever. 73, Ken "GeorgeF" wrote in message k.net... How are the rest of the CW operators dealing with all the SSB that is showing up in the 40 meter CW portion of the band? Here it is the weekend and there's some contest going on and there is more SSB in the CW portion of the band then there is SSB in the SSB portion of the band. What gives with this? On HF I'm a 99% CW operator, only been licensed about a year and love CW, don't care much for SSB. But I'm starting to wonder why I paid $1800 for a Yaesu FT-1000Mk V Field as it looks like I won't be able to use it for what I bought it for this weekend... Help George |
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote DSP would do a poor job of cleaning out SSB signals for CW copy. Actually, Dan, the DSP engine in my IC775 blows the Autek away. Stagger-tune the twin PBT to attenuate the crud, turn on the APF, and then gently fondle the RIT. Since you're doing all of this up inside the IF chain, you make your peace with the AGC-pump syndrome, a tack impossible with the Autek. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ink.net... DSP would do a poor job of cleaning out SSB signals for CW copy. You would do bunches better with using your Autek as you are doing. Dan/W4NTI Or he could QSY and stop jamming our SSB segment with his CW! Brad VK2QQ |
"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote DSP would do a poor job of cleaning out SSB signals for CW copy. Actually, Dan, the DSP engine in my IC775 blows the Autek away. Stagger-tune the twin PBT to attenuate the crud, turn on the APF, and then gently fondle the RIT. Since you're doing all of this up inside the IF chain, you make your peace with the AGC-pump syndrome, a tack impossible with the Autek. 73, de Hans, K0HB Nice to know.....I have MP and I haven't seen it helping much on a SSB signal on top of a CW one. Maybe I need to play with it some more. Dan/W4NTI |
"Brad" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ink.net... DSP would do a poor job of cleaning out SSB signals for CW copy. You would do bunches better with using your Autek as you are doing. Dan/W4NTI Or he could QSY and stop jamming our SSB segment with his CW! Brad VK2QQ Thats a good plan. Next time I hear a VK on ssb I'll do just that. Dan/W4NTI\ |
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