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Simplex calling frequencies
K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile
trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? Perhaps they forgot to disable thier K0HB filters? Had you been in SE Tennessee and I had seen you, you would have gotten a call. But on the same note, there's been quite a few occassions where I've passed/been passed by a vehicle with Amateur tags (or some other "callsign" display), and had my hails go unanswered. On the other hand, I've gotten several calls, mostly from 18-wheeler Amateurs. Lots of those big rigs are Hams...guess they got tired of the 10-4 good buddy crowd. Glad you're home safe, Hans. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
wrote in message oups.com... KØHB wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? Perhaps they forgot to disable thier K0HB filters? Had you been in SE Tennessee and I had seen you, you would have gotten a call. But on the same note, there's been quite a few occassions where I've passed/been passed by a vehicle with Amateur tags (or some other "callsign" display), and had my hails go unanswered. On the other hand, I've gotten several calls, mostly from 18-wheeler Amateurs. Lots of those big rigs are Hams...guess they got tired of the 10-4 good buddy crowd. Glad you're home safe, Hans. 73 Steve, K4YZ This is just a guess, but "maybe" 1. Any amateurs mobile that may have seen you, missed reading the bumper sticker because they're too busy watching the road? I know when I'm on the road and see a ham call sign bumper sticker or plate, I sure in hell am not going to detract from my driving to play guessing games trying to find them. That would be like a needle in a hay stack - IF they are even on the air at all. 2. They're on the "repeater" pairs - perhaps trying to get directions from a local person - because they didn't think they would have any luck monitoring 146.52! |
I use .52 aircraft mobile all the time and never have any trouble finding
somebody monitoring. Jim Is .52 broken? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
Poor Hans, so typical of today's ham radio ops, stuck in the archaic world
of 52 simplex, while the rest of the world is using Advanced Mobile Technology. "Why aren't young people interested in ham radio"? duhhhhhhhhhhh, lets demonstrate 52 simplex for them, maybe that'll get the kids interested. 73, Rabbi Phil "KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"Rabbi Phil" wrote in message
... "Why aren't young people interested in ham radio"? Hi Phil, That's certainly a topic worthy of discussion. You could start a thread if you liked, but my question is related to simplex calling frequencies, not why Johnnie didn't pass the amateur exam. 72.5, de Hans, K0HB |
"KØHB" wrote in message . net... "Rabbi Phil" wrote in message ... "Why aren't young people interested in ham radio"? Hi Phil, That's certainly a topic worthy of discussion. You could start a thread if you liked, but my question is related to simplex calling frequencies, not why Johnnie didn't pass the amateur exam. 72.5, de Hans, K0HB When I went to reply before, the message was sent by a slip of the hand, faster than I had intended. I can't speak for all, but I know myself - around here, there used to be a group who didn't like repeaters, so - they talked on Simplex. Many of them have since moved away from the area and apart from each other - to be able to do FM simplex. Maybe they still talk on h.f., I don't know. Many operate simplex when they're close by and don't wish their conversation broadcast over many miles - such as a husband and wife - where the wife may be shy and not care to use repeaters as often. Still, you have the "repeater" clubs, where the members tend to congregate on the repeater frequencies more so than Simplex. Then too... with amateur radio "seeming" to drift downward in popularity (one reason the youth aren't involved), there are fewer to listen to simplex. Fewer on repeaters as well. These may be some of the reasons simplex isn't so busy. Even the repeaters around here don't seem so active as they once were. Is it because of computers? I doubt it - though it is possible. I think it is that people are more hurried in life to make a living and to enjoy any fragments of time with their families anymore - to take the time to enjoy a hobby which may have been once endearing and is now more so a dust collecting hobby. I've not been on any repeaters myself for about a year or more. I've not been on H.F. either. Just don't seem to find the time for it much anymore. Too busy doing other things. That is sad, considering I was "very" involved in it. I suppose, once you get out of the habit, it is hard to get back into it. Actually, it feels good not toting a radio everywhere, even a small one. A cell phone is more than enough. When I do my other job, I have a radio with me. I don't care to look like Batman with a utility belt and a hundred radios. I carry only what I need. I'm sure there are myriads of reasons why folks don't talk Simplex. Just as there are for no one taking exams anymore - never mind - passing it. cl |
cl wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message . net... "Rabbi Phil" wrote in message ... "Why aren't young people interested in ham radio"? Hi Phil, That's certainly a topic worthy of discussion. You could start a thread if you liked, but my question is related to simplex calling frequencies, not why Johnnie didn't pass the amateur exam. 72.5, de Hans, K0HB When I went to reply before, the message was sent by a slip of the hand, faster than I had intended. I can't speak for all, but I know myself - around here, there used to be a group who didn't like repeaters, so - they talked on Simplex. Many of them have since moved away from the area and apart from each other - to be able to do FM simplex. Maybe they still talk on h.f., I don't know. Many operate simplex when they're close by and don't wish their conversation broadcast over many miles - such as a husband and wife - where the wife may be shy and not care to use repeaters as often. Still, you have the "repeater" clubs, where the members tend to congregate on the repeater frequencies more so than Simplex. Then too... with amateur radio "seeming" to drift downward in popularity (one reason the youth aren't involved), there are fewer to listen to simplex. Fewer on repeaters as well. These may be some of the reasons simplex isn't so busy. Even the repeaters around here don't seem so active as they once were. Is it because of computers? I doubt it - though it is possible. I think it is that people are more hurried in life to make a living and to enjoy any fragments of time with their families anymore - to take the time to enjoy a hobby which may have been once endearing and is now more so a dust collecting hobby. I've not been on any repeaters myself for about a year or more. I've not been on H.F. either. Just don't seem to find the time for it much anymore. Too busy doing other things. That is sad, considering I was "very" involved in it. I suppose, once you get out of the habit, it is hard to get back into it. Actually, it feels good not toting a radio everywhere, even a small one. A cell phone is more than enough. When I do my other job, I have a radio with me. I don't care to look like Batman with a utility belt and a hundred radios. I carry only what I need. I'm sure there are myriads of reasons why folks don't talk Simplex. Just as there are for no one taking exams anymore - never mind - passing it. cl The only simplex that I hang out on is 144.2 USB. Heck, all the repeaters around here use a tone, and I don't have a tone capable radio :) " HAM AND EGGS -- A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig." |
"KØHB" failing to comprehend standard English, Hans wrote the following message and sent it on 52 simplex: Hi Phil, That's certainly a topic worthy of discussion. You could start a thread if you liked, but my question is related to simplex calling frequencies, not why Johnnie didn't pass the amateur exam. 72.5, de Hans, K0HB |
Actually I'm kinda surprised that you didn't get anything in OKC. I always
monitor .52 when on the road, and practically every time I pass through OKC there are at least a couple of hams on the air, chatting away. But I find the same thing on the highway, even the hams that have a ham tag don't seem to monitor .52. Coming back from HamCom in Dallas a couple of years ago I had a ham call me on .52, he said mine was the first response he'd gotten. However, I find the same thing on the local repeaters when I pass through, although I maintain up-to-date programming in my radio and I can hear the repeaters unkey, I don't get any answers to my calls. So it's not just simplex. M "KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
One wonders why you are wasting your time on a ham-related newsgroup if
you feel such contempt for the service. Are you even licensed? |
"M.S." wrote in message ... SNIP However, I find the same thing on the local repeaters when I pass through, although I maintain up-to-date programming in my radio and I can hear the repeaters unkey, I don't get any answers to my calls. So it's not just simplex. M I have noticed the same thing about repeaters when traveling. On one occasion, I was persistent and a local came back and sed "Lots of folks here sonny, we just don't have the time to entertain travel folks, Mostly we talk about corn prices and hog disease." And I am aware of some Mom and Pop repeaters -- set up for them and they never answer others. CL |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:haV1e.1880$k57.556@fed1read07... "M.S." wrote in message ... SNIP However, I find the same thing on the local repeaters when I pass through, although I maintain up-to-date programming in my radio and I can hear the repeaters unkey, I don't get any answers to my calls. So it's not just simplex. M I have noticed the same thing about repeaters when traveling. On one occasion, I was persistent and a local came back and sed "Lots of folks here sonny, we just don't have the time to entertain travel folks, Mostly we talk about corn prices and hog disease." And I am aware of some Mom and Pop repeaters -- set up for them and they never answer others. CL Funny they always answer my XYL though (;-) CL |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:IpV1e.1881$k57.1290@fed1read07... "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:haV1e.1880$k57.556@fed1read07... "M.S." wrote in message ... SNIP However, I find the same thing on the local repeaters when I pass through, although I maintain up-to-date programming in my radio and I can hear the repeaters unkey, I don't get any answers to my calls. So it's not just simplex. M I have noticed the same thing about repeaters when traveling. On one occasion, I was persistent and a local came back and sed "Lots of folks here sonny, we just don't have the time to entertain travel folks, Mostly we talk about corn prices and hog disease." And I am aware of some Mom and Pop repeaters -- set up for them and they never answer others. CL Funny they always answer my XYL though (;-) CL That is funny, but not surprising. The female voices ALWAYS seem to get a reply. But ya know, those "female" voices can be awfully deceiving. What you hear, isn't always what you see. Nor does it divulge what may come along with it. cl |
"cl" wrote in message o.verio.net... "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:IpV1e.1881$k57.1290@fed1read07... "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:haV1e.1880$k57.556@fed1read07... "M.S." wrote in message ... SNIP However, I find the same thing on the local repeaters when I pass through, although I maintain up-to-date programming in my radio and I can hear the repeaters unkey, I don't get any answers to my calls. So it's not just simplex. M I have noticed the same thing about repeaters when traveling. On one occasion, I was persistent and a local came back and sed "Lots of folks here sonny, we just don't have the time to entertain travel folks, Mostly we talk about corn prices and hog disease." And I am aware of some Mom and Pop repeaters -- set up for them and they never answer others. CL Funny they always answer my XYL though (;-) CL That is funny, but not surprising. The female voices ALWAYS seem to get a reply. But ya know, those "female" voices can be awfully deceiving. What you hear, isn't always what you see. Nor does it divulge what may come along with it. cl LOL Being there are only two females in Wyoming -- works everytime. Yep be careful what you visualize - could be the spittin image of your Mother -In -Law (;-( |
wrote in message oups.com... KØHB wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? Perhaps they forgot to disable thier K0HB filters? Had you been in SE Tennessee and I had seen you, you would have gotten a call. But on the same note, there's been quite a few occassions where I've passed/been passed by a vehicle with Amateur tags (or some other "callsign" display), and had my hails go unanswered. On the other hand, I've gotten several calls, mostly from 18-wheeler Amateurs. Lots of those big rigs are Hams...guess they got tired of the 10-4 good buddy crowd. Glad you're home safe, Hans. 73 Steve, K4YZ I remember whenever you passed a ham or saw his tag that if you sent four beeps spaced and two more beeps on your horn you would get a friendly response. I don't bother anymore. Dan/W4NTI |
On 28 Mar 2005 03:46:46 -0800, "Mr. Obvious"
wrote: One wonders why you are wasting your time on a ham-related newsgroup if you feel such contempt for the service. Are you even licensed? Who are you replying to? -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:47:02 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. FWIW I'm a new ham and called on 146.52 frequently when out of repeater range on a recent trip from Edmonton to Vancouver and Seattle. I chatted with one ham in the Jasper National Park on the Yellowhead highway and we met in person at the Mount Robson viewpoint. I also chatted with another ham at a small town, Golden, BC, which didn't have any repeater. I almost would've like to have a tape recorder spitting out my call sign every 10 minutes. smile Tony |
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:47:02 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote: Not once were we called on 146.52. Once I have my house antennas setup, waiting for the snow to melt off the roof, I will be monitoring 146.52 all the time while at home. Tony |
"Tony VE6MVP" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:47:02 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. FWIW I'm a new ham and called on 146.52 frequently when out of repeater range on a recent trip from Edmonton to Vancouver and Seattle. I chatted with one ham in the Jasper National Park on the Yellowhead highway and we met in person at the Mount Robson viewpoint. I also chatted with another ham at a small town, Golden, BC, which didn't have any repeater. I almost would've like to have a tape recorder spitting out my call sign every 10 minutes. smile Tony Canadians are generally friendlier then Americans. I remember taking a road trip all around Fla a few years back. Couldn't find a sole to reply. In fact I used to LIVE in Ft. Lauderdale Fla. Same thing, snobs. Dan/W4NTI |
I'm a snob. I get ****ed off at reading a hundred lines of text to find two
or three lines of response. Do you people really understand SNIPPING? Jim In fact I used to LIVE in Ft. Lauderdale Fla. Same thing, snobs. Dan/W4NTI |
Or at least place the reply at the TOP of the message.
RST Engineering wrote: I'm a snob. I get ****ed off at reading a hundred lines of text to find two or three lines of response. Do you people really understand SNIPPING? Jim In fact I used to LIVE in Ft. Lauderdale Fla. Same thing, snobs. Dan/W4NTI |
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:29:44 -0800, "Caveat Lector"
wrote: Funny they always answer my XYL though (;-) chuckle Aha. I'll have a young lady record my call sign and transmit it while driving every ten minutes and see what response I get then. Tony |
K=D8HB wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. =20 Is .52 broken? =20 73, de Hans, K0HB How was Quartzite? |
"William" wrote How was Quartzite? Drove through there once a few years ago. It's the RV equivalent of 75-meter phone. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:14:18 -0800, "RST Engineering"
wrote: I use .52 aircraft mobile all the time and never have any trouble finding somebody monitoring. Jim Pretty good radio horizon up there, right, Jim? Ted KX4OM |
I wonder what the 4 beeps and the 2 beeps are supposed to mean?
Paul Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message oups.com... KØHB wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? Perhaps they forgot to disable thier K0HB filters? Had you been in SE Tennessee and I had seen you, you would have gotten a call. But on the same note, there's been quite a few occassions where I've passed/been passed by a vehicle with Amateur tags (or some other "callsign" display), and had my hails go unanswered. On the other hand, I've gotten several calls, mostly from 18-wheeler Amateurs. Lots of those big rigs are Hams...guess they got tired of the 10-4 good buddy crowd. Glad you're home safe, Hans. 73 Steve, K4YZ I remember whenever you passed a ham or saw his tag that if you sent four beeps spaced and two more beeps on your horn you would get a friendly response. I don't bother anymore. Dan/W4NTI |
Please explain snipping, It might help more than complaining.
Paul RST Engineering wrote: I'm a snob. I get ****ed off at reading a hundred lines of text to find two or three lines of response. Do you people really understand SNIPPING? Jim In fact I used to LIVE in Ft. Lauderdale Fla. Same thing, snobs. Dan/W4NTI |
In case your question is serious and for others who may not know, in the days of telegraph before radio, operators would tell stories and jokes along an idle circuit. Since 4 dits followed by 2 dits sounds like a laugh -- and 4 beeps is H and 2 beeps is I
Sending HI HI in Morse was a telegraphic laugh and it naturally carried over to radio by CW ops. Used by many today in CW and indeed has carried over to phone as well. Well in passing a another Ham car -- sending HI in Morse is a Ham motorists Hello. So much in Amateur Radio jargon is from the telegraph days. Lets see if any one knows the origin of ES in Morse in lieu of the word AND ??? Answer tommorrow from CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Paul H. Wray" wrote in message ... I wonder what the 4 beeps and the 2 beeps are supposed to mean? Paul Dan/W4NTI wrote: wrote in message oups.com... KØHB wrote: K0CKB and I just returned from an 8-week RV vacation. During the 8,500 mile trip we continuously monitored 146.52, and had our calls and the statement "Monitoring 146.52" prominently visible on the rear of our coach. Most of our travel was on busy Interstate highways, and in/near populous areas including Minneapolis, DesMoines, Kansas City, Topeka, Wichita, OKC, DFW, Waco, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Brownsville, ElPaso, Las Cruces, Globe, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Tucson, Las Vegas, and points between. Not once were we called on 146.52. At every population center we announced "K0HB (or K0CKB) monitoring Five Two", often more than once.. On only one occasion (thanks WK5C) did we receive a reply. Is .52 broken? Perhaps they forgot to disable thier K0HB filters? Had you been in SE Tennessee and I had seen you, you would have gotten a call. But on the same note, there's been quite a few occassions where I've passed/been passed by a vehicle with Amateur tags (or some other "callsign" display), and had my hails go unanswered. On the other hand, I've gotten several calls, mostly from 18-wheeler Amateurs. Lots of those big rigs are Hams...guess they got tired of the 10-4 good buddy crowd. Glad you're home safe, Hans. 73 Steve, K4YZ I remember whenever you passed a ham or saw his tag that if you sent four beeps spaced and two more beeps on your horn you would get a friendly response. I don't bother anymore. Dan/W4NTI |
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