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Dee Flint September 5th 05 05:00 PM


"Michael Black" wrote in message
...

"KØHB" ) writes:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

Years ago I participated in ham radio communications after a tornado
cleaned out about half of the southern part of Witchta Fall, Tx. The
kind folks of WF housed us in a church, provided sleeping facilities
and
fed us. Anyone think that was violating the rule of "pecuniary
interest"?



"an old friend" replied:

Yes


OK, folks, every one of you who accepted food or lodging in the course of
participating in an emergency communications incident is guilty of
violating FCC
rules.

If the Red Cross or Salvation Army (btw, why is there no Salvation Navy)
provided you with some identification garment like a hat or t-shirt, you
must
return the garment to the issuing agency. If you have lost or damaged
the
garment you must reimburse the RC/SA for the fair market value of the
garment.

You should file amended state and federal tax returns accounting for the
value
of the freebie meals/lodging/refreshments/transportation which was
provided to
you in the course of your volunteer assignment, with copies to all FCC
Commissioners who will review your fitness to continue to hold your
Amateur
Radio license.

Or not.

73, de Hans, K0HB

Of course, if you reverse the wording, it makes the thing all make more
sense.

You volunteer for something, but they insist you wear a tshirt and hat,
and you MUST pay for it.

They won't provide food, so you've got to pay for it, even though you will
be in a situation where you can't easily bring lunch from home, and don't
have a wide selection of choices.

Then they will bill you for lodging.

Michael VE2BVW


Either way, you end up with less than when you started even accounting for
being able to deduct them on your income taxes.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



KØHB September 5th 05 05:27 PM


"Michael Black" wrote


They won't provide food, so you've got to pay for it, even though you will
be in a situation where you can't easily bring lunch from home, and don't
have a wide selection of choices.


Is that written in Canookian? All the words seem to be English, but .........

73, de Hans, K0HB





an Old friend September 5th 05 05:30 PM


K=D8HB wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote


They won't provide food, so you've got to pay for it, even though you w=

ill
be in a situation where you can't easily bring lunch from home, and don=

't
have a wide selection of choices.


Is that written in Canookian? All the words seem to be English, but ....=

..=2E...

73, de Hans, K0HB


ah the open mindedness of hams

one boasts of killing gooks another address canaadian pagoritively


KØHB September 5th 05 05:51 PM


"an Old friend" wrote

KØHB wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote


They won't provide food, so you've got to pay for it, even though you will
be in a situation where you can't easily bring lunch from home, and don't
have a wide selection of choices.


Is that written in Canookian? All the words seem to be English, but
.........

73, de Hans, K0HB


canaadian pagoritively


Well, at least the esteemed ham from Canookia used English words. The esteemed
old_friend from Michigan used words from an unknown language.

Beep beep!
de Hans, K0HB






an Old friend September 5th 05 05:55 PM

learn to quote people correctly


KØHB September 5th 05 06:06 PM


"an Old friend" wrote

learn to quote people correctly


Those two words are a precise copy of the words you used. (Ain't Google
wonderful!)

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB






an Old friend September 5th 05 06:24 PM


K=D8HB wrote:
"an Old friend" wrote

learn to quote people correctly


Those two words are a precise copy of the words you used. (Ain't Google
wonderful!)

with out the rest of them
=20
Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB



John Smith September 5th 05 07:44 PM

K0HB:

Maybe, perhaps, and non-pecuniary of course, you can find someone who
would fund you to go away--I mean, hell!, just maybe the arrl is on to
something here and we can all make a buck while doing something which
would be done anyway! Ethics are such a bother anyway--and besides, they
are only for the "other guy" (read K1MAN here), certainly they don't
pertain to us "special people!"

John

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 04:22:56 +0000, KØHB wrote:


"N9OGL" wrote

now the ASSHOLE RADIO RELAY LEAGUE


Todd,

Up until this point, the conversation on this topic was reasoned and balanced.
But you've chosen to resort to your habitual trash mouth mode, so you can find
any further comments from me posted at http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy .

With warmest kind wishes,
de Hans, K0HB



an Old friend September 5th 05 07:51 PM


John Smith wrote:
K0HB:

Maybe, perhaps, and non-pecuniary of course, you can find someone who
would fund you to go away--I mean, hell!, just maybe the arrl is on to
something here and we can all make a buck while doing something which
would be done anyway! Ethics are such a bother anyway--and besides, they
are only for the "other guy" (read K1MAN here), certainly they don't
pertain to us "special people!"

John

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 04:22:56 +0000, K=D8HB wrote:
=20


Indeed this is a large problem in the ARS


John Smith September 5th 05 08:00 PM

CB:

Funny, but when the gov't asked for billions for "homeland defense" and
made fema and it united, I thought they would have bought some
communications equip., trained people and they would be set in place in
such a disaster--from planes, tops of tall buildings, in communication
vehicles and such--then begin communicating with hams in their local
communities to handle communications for family and other services into
that area. I never thought for a moment they would then plan, in a real
disaster, to start hiring hams--that simply sucks and demonstrates we have
been screwed.

Now we find out, they didn't even use the money to get supplies of food,
water, bedding, blankets, clothing, etc. WHICH YOU WOULD NEED IN ANY
EMERGENCY! together, how surprising, the gov't has given us a royal
screwing--ONCE AGAIN...

John

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:35:01 -0700, Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:

Dee Flint wrote:


Not at all. I read the ARRL statement and the FCC rules. I happen to agree
that there is enough flexibility to allow meeting the travel expenses, food
expenses for those who are going down. There is no intent to "make a buck".

My point was that there is no reason to automatically assume that there is
an intent to do wrong.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Years ago I participated in ham radio communications after a tornado
cleaned out about half of the southern part of Witchta Fall, Tx. The
kind folks of WF housed us in a church, provided sleeping facilities and
fed us. Anyone think that was violating the rule of "pecuniary interest"?




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