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[email protected] October 5th 05 12:02 PM


K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic


Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't call Len=

down
for being OT.


I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down Len
for being off topic?

Are those radio-telephone crafts?


Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involves resto=

ring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills in those=

areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.


I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.


K4YZ October 5th 05 12:42 PM


wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic


Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't call L=

en down
for being OT.


I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down Len
for being off topic?


Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.

Are those radio-telephone crafts?


Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involves res=

toring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills in tho=

se areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.


I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.


Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

73

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend October 5th 05 03:44 PM


K4YZ wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:


Freedom of speech means I have the right to say if I think someone's posts
are ignorant, stupid, or just plain wrong.


your point? if any

you clearly don't respect the rights of others to disagree with you

so you talk the talk, but when you going to walk the walk?


So...

Work keeps me out of RRAP for a couple of weeks and I "return" only
to find those who accuse me of certain things being waist-deep in it
themselves.


what are you talking about? another hurricane relief mission Stevie

Why am I not surprised.

BTW, Mark, He DID clearly "respect" your right to "disagree" with
you...He just called your posts for what they (usually)
are..."ignroant, stupid, or just plain wrong" and YOU were the one with
the "disagreement" issues...Again.


you haven't been reading the man's posts he doesn't respect people's
right to disagree, he like you resorts to name calling

Both of you confuse disagreement with stupidity, meaning neither of you
repsect the rights of other to disagree

His "point" was that he clearly shares the same opinion as other
educated and informed men about YOUR "points".


gee where are these men and only men you say

As for "talking the talk but not walking the walk", when are we
gonna see you in "uniform", "Colonel"...?!?!


more nonsense Stevie

but you can't deal with issues that alwasy your problem

At least the countless spelling lessons I gave you appear to have
paid off.


bull****

Steve, K4YZ



an old friend October 5th 05 03:47 PM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't call=

Len down
for being OT.


I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down Len
for being off topic?


Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.


which conceeds the existace of such charges

is your problem with Len realy just that he is rather verbose in style?

How petty

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.


that is you, that are tlaking about Stevie

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involves r=

estoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills in t=

hose areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.


I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.


Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...



again with your pettiness, and showing you have a small mind

reams and reams bull****, but that is the normal content of your posts

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.
=20
73
=20
Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ October 5th 05 04:28 PM


nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:


Freedom of speech means I have the right to say if I think someone's posts
are ignorant, stupid, or just plain wrong.

your point? if any

you clearly don't respect the rights of others to disagree with you

so you talk the talk, but when you going to walk the walk?


So...

Work keeps me out of RRAP for a couple of weeks and I "return" only
to find those who accuse me of certain things being waist-deep in it
themselves.


what are you talking about? another hurricane relief mission Stevie


Guess you weren't paying attention to references, were you, Mark?

And I can see your English comprehension skills have not
improved.

QUOTE: "Why am I not surprised.Work keeps me out of RRAP for a
couple of weeks and I "return" only to find those who accuse me of
certain things being waist-deep in it themselves". UNQUOTE

What part of the concept of "work" do you not understand?

BTW, Mark, He DID clearly "respect" your right to "disagree" with
you...He just called your posts for what they (usually)
are..."ignroant, stupid, or just plain wrong" and YOU were the one with
the "disagreement" issues...Again.


you haven't been reading the man's posts he doesn't respect people's
right to disagree, he like you resorts to name calling


And you're any different?

You're showing exactly NO difference, Mark...

Both of you confuse disagreement with stupidity, meaning neither of you
repsect the rights of other to disagree


"respect"

Sure I do. That you're alive despite several years of whining
about death threats is proof positive that I "respect disagreement".

His "point" was that he clearly shares the same opinion as other
educated and informed men about YOUR "points".


gee where are these men and only men you say


Certainly not in Michigan.

As for "talking the talk but not walking the walk", when are we
gonna see you in "uniform", "Colonel"...?!?!


more nonsense Stevie


Not at all.

You claim to be a veteran AND an Officer to boot.

Obviously NONE of it true, ergo you're talking the talk, but can't
walk the walk.

but you can't deal with issues that alwasy your problem


"always"

Sure I can.

At least the countless spelling lessons I gave you appear to have
paid off.


bull####


Nope. I only had to correct you twice in this post, none in the
previous. Obviously it's worn off.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ October 5th 05 04:36 PM


nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't ca=

ll Len down
for being OT.

I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down L=

en
for being off topic?


Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.


which conceeds the existace of such charges


"existance"

You obviously don't understand the definition of "charges".

is your problem with Len realy just that he is rather verbose in style?


He's not "verbose".

He's a documented, pathological liar. He typically "takes a dump"
whenever some instance in Amateur Radio occurs that proves him wrong.
Like the current events in the Gulf States.

How petty


Nope.

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.


that is you, that are tlaking about Stevie


"talking"

Nope. I just mimic Lennie and feed his mischieviousness back to
him.

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involves=

restoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills in=

those areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.

I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.


Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...


again with your pettiness, and showing you have a small mind


Nope.

Lennie's repeatedly made the suggestion that Amateur Radio serves
no great purpose, and this it serves no "greater need" of the Republic.

Current events and news items in all public media disprove that,
Mark.

reams and reams bull####, but that is the normal content of your posts


That's just you trying to undermine what I just said.

It still doesn't work.

It still doesn't mitigate that the "major media" has made several
very positive and very "page one" references to Amateur Radio and it's
functionality in the devastated areas. Amateur Radio has been on the
"front page" of Radio, TV, printed and virtual news sources.

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
time.


As I siad before...Must be awfully embarrassing for him...

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend October 5th 05 05:53 PM


K4YZ wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:

Freedom of speech means I have the right to say if I think someone's posts
are ignorant, stupid, or just plain wrong.

your point? if any

you clearly don't respect the rights of others to disagree with you

so you talk the talk, but when you going to walk the walk?

So...

Work keeps me out of RRAP for a couple of weeks and I "return" only
to find those who accuse me of certain things being waist-deep in it
themselves.


what are you talking about? another hurricane relief mission Stevie


Guess you weren't paying attention to references, were you, Mark?

And I can see your English comprehension skills have not
improved.


no they haven't but then they are pretty good

cuting the rep

What part of the concept of "work" do you not understand?

work wasn't the subject but then you can't read



BTW, Mark, He DID clearly "respect" your right to "disagree" with
you...He just called your posts for what they (usually)
are..."ignroant, stupid, or just plain wrong" and YOU were the one with
the "disagreement" issues...Again.


you haven't been reading the man's posts he doesn't respect people's
right to disagree, he like you resorts to name calling


And you're any different?


One he was the subject so stop diverting it

You're showing exactly NO difference, Mark...


again go read some of stuff first

Both of you confuse disagreement with stupidity, meaning neither of you
repsect the rights of other to disagree


"respect"

Sure I do. That you're alive despite several years of whining
about death threats is proof positive that I "respect disagreement".


not at all but you don't know the meaning of the word proof as you have
amply proven over the years

His "point" was that he clearly shares the same opinion as other
educated and informed men about YOUR "points".


gee where are these men and only men you say


Certainly not in Michigan.


vague as is normal for you

and evasive as ever

As for "talking the talk but not walking the walk", when are we
gonna see you in "uniform", "Colonel"...?!?!


more nonsense Stevie


Not at all.

You claim to be a veteran AND an Officer to boot.

Obviously NONE of it true, ergo you're talking the talk, but can't
walk the walk.


Obviously? gee then why do I have a DD 214 with my name on it

but you can't deal with issues that alwasy your problem


"always"

Sure I can.


when you going to start then

At least the countless spelling lessons I gave you appear to have
paid off.


bull####


Nope. I only had to correct you twice in this post, none in the
previous. Obviously it's worn off.


meaning you claim is in fact bull**** as I said

and back to disrespecting intelectual porperty again

Steve, K4YZ



an old friend October 5th 05 05:59 PM


KY4Z wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
KY4Z wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't =

call Len down
for being OT.

I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down=

Len
for being off topic?

Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.


which conceeds the existace of such charges


"existance"

You obviously don't understand the definition of "charges".


certainly do

is your problem with Len realy just that he is rather verbose in style?


He's not "verbose".


Hel yes he is verbose. More than I personaly care for at times but I
respect that he has His own style

He's a documented, pathological liar. He typically "takes a dump"
whenever some instance in Amateur Radio occurs that proves him wrong.
Like the current events in the Gulf States.


more of you lying fabrication

he disagress with you, that is isn't lying no matter how many times you
say it is

How petty


Nope.

yep

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.


that is you, that are tlaking about Stevie


"talking"

Nope. I just mimic Lennie and feed his mischieviousness back to
him.


more lies

why don't you admit it you just can't stand anyone that does not agree
with you

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involv=

es restoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills =

in those areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.

I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.

Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...


again with your pettiness, and showing you have a small mind


Nope.

Lennie's repeatedly made the suggestion that Amateur Radio serves
no great purpose, and this it serves no "greater need" of the Republic.


to bad you don't realy bother to understand what he says, but you are a
don't confuse me with the facts kind of guy

Current events and news items in all public media disprove that,
Mark.


not realy, that you think so proves you haven't realy bother to process
much of Len posting's


reams and reams bull####, but that is the normal content of your posts


That's just you trying to undermine what I just said.


there are no reams of this stuff it is plain fact, or if you like
another of your fabrications

It still doesn't work.

It still doesn't mitigate that the "major media" has made several
very positive and very "page one" references to Amateur Radio and it's
functionality in the devastated areas. Amateur Radio has been on the
"front page" of Radio, TV, printed and virtual news sources.


back pedaling fast as you can


Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
time.


As I siad before...Must be awfully embarrassing for him...

not at all
=20
Steve, KY4Z



K4YZ October 5th 05 10:13 PM


nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:

Freedom of speech means I have the right to say if I think someone's posts
are ignorant, stupid, or just plain wrong.

your point? if any

you clearly don't respect the rights of others to disagree with you

so you talk the talk, but when you going to walk the walk?

So...

Work keeps me out of RRAP for a couple of weeks and I "return" only
to find those who accuse me of certain things being waist-deep in it
themselves.

what are you talking about? another hurricane relief mission Stevie


Guess you weren't paying attention to references, were you, Mark?

And I can see your English comprehension skills have not
improved.


no they haven't but then they are pretty good


No, they are not.

The above quoted paragraph is evidence thereof.

cuting the rep


You mean conducting censorship.

What part of the concept of "work" do you not understand?


work wasn't the subject but then you can't read


Sure I can read.

I said: "Work keeps me out of RRAP for a couple of weeks and I
"return" only to find those who accuse me of certain things being
waist-deep in it themselves."

You said: "what are you talking about? another hurricane relief
mission Stevie"

Therefore you've opened your mouth, allowed the REAL "bs" of this
NG to spew forth again, and then rused to get your shoes off so you
could dance barefoot in it for a while.

No, I was not talking about hurricaine releif, although we are
seeing plenty of dislocated folks in my ER in the last 3 weeks.

BTW, Mark, He DID clearly "respect" your right to "disagree" with
you...He just called your posts for what they (usually)
are..."ignroant, stupid, or just plain wrong" and YOU were the one with
the "disagreement" issues...Again.

you haven't been reading the man's posts he doesn't respect people's
right to disagree, he like you resorts to name calling


And you're any different?


One he was the subject so stop diverting it


I'm not diverting anything.

You're showing exactly NO difference, Mark...


again go read some of stuff first


I did. Lot's of it.

And what I see is that YOU are perpetrating the exact same deceit,
misconduct and verbal trashing of the NG you accuse others of.

Both of you confuse disagreement with stupidity, meaning neither of you
repsect the rights of other to disagree


"respect"

Sure I do. That you're alive despite several years of whining
about death threats is proof positive that I "respect disagreement".


not at all but you don't know the meaning of the word proof as you have
amply proven over the years


Sure I do. I've provided lots of it.

And everytime I DO, someone such as yourself wants something ELSE
as "proof".

If you and spineless creeps like Frankie of Silliland want to play
on that merry-

His "point" was that he clearly shares the same opinion as other
educated and informed men about YOUR "points".

gee where are these men and only men you say


Certainly not in Michigan.


vague as is normal for you

and evasive as ever


Not evasive or vague at all. I am saying none of the men he's
refering to are in Michigan.

As for "talking the talk but not walking the walk", when are we
gonna see you in "uniform", "Colonel"...?!?!

more nonsense Stevie


Not at all.

You claim to be a veteran AND an Officer to boot.

Obviously NONE of it true, ergo you're talking the talk, but can't
walk the walk.


Obviously? gee then why do I have a DD 214 with my name on it


I have a picture of a "Hollywood Star" with my name on it too,
Mark...Nice for gags.

but you can't deal with issues that alwasy your problem


"always"

Sure I can.


when you going to start then


Already have.

At least the countless spelling lessons I gave you appear to have
paid off.

bull####


Nope. I only had to correct you twice in this post, none in the
previous. Obviously it's worn off.


meaning you claim is in fact bull#### as I said


Nope. I believe you are suffering from the "anger" aspect of
newsgroup psoting that Lennie refers to. Obviously, in your case, it
works.

And you were doing sooooooooooooooooo good.

and back to disrespecting intelectual porperty again


If you're going to refer to intellectual ANYthing, please spell it
correctly.

"intellectual" "property"

There's nothing of YOURS that even remotely approaches
"intellectual property", Mark.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend October 6th 05 12:54 AM


K4YZ wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:

cut

"intellectual" "property"

There's nothing of YOURS that even remotely approaches
"intellectual property", Mark.


Everything I write is my intellectual property

everything more proof that Stevie does not respect the law

Steve, K4YZ



[email protected] October 6th 05 03:10 AM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't call=

Len down
for being OT.


I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down Len
for being off topic?


Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.


Ah, yes. Lennie "asks for it." Typical stuff from abusers.

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.


Strange. I most often read about him being off-topic.

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involves r=

estoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills in t=

hose areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.


I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.


Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".


How would you know? Are you watching and following Len?

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.


Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications. Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len. ;^(

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...


It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.


Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.


an old friend October 6th 05 03:14 AM


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

cut
It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.


Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.


sorry have to correct you Stevie can't be embarrished he lacks the sense


Cmdr Buzz Corey October 6th 05 03:47 AM

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

nobodys old friend wrote:


cut

"intellectual" "property"

There's nothing of YOURS that even remotely approaches
"intellectual property", Mark.



Everything I write is my intellectual property



I think the word "intellectual" is streatching it quite a bit.

Dr.Ace - WH2T October 6th 05 09:30 AM

You don't have ownership rights to the BS you write unless it is
copyrighted.
Ace - WH2T

"an_old_friend of Todd" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:

cut

"intellectual" "property"

There's nothing of YOURS that even remotely approaches
"intellectual property", Mark.


Everything I write is my intellectual property

everything more proof that Stevie does not respect the law

Steve, K4YZ





K4YZ October 6th 05 01:11 PM


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't ca=

ll Len down
for being OT.

I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down L=

en
for being off topic?


Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.


Ah, yes. Lennie "asks for it." Typical stuff from abusers.


He doesn't "ask for it"...He just get's in kind what he delivers.

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.


Strange. I most often read about him being off-topic.


I am sure your scope or reference is a bit myoptic.

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involves=

restoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills in=

those areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.

I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.


Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".


How would you know? Are you watching and following Len?


Nope, but that's HIS "standard response".

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.


Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.


You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...

That was "microwave communications" in the FIFTIES, which bore
absolutely NO resemblence with current "microwave communications".

Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.


Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.


That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...


It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?


Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.


Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.


It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend October 7th 05 01:19 AM


Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:
You don't have ownership rights to the BS you write unless it is
copyrighted.
Ace - WH2T


Wrong ace I do


Dr.Ace - WH2T October 7th 05 01:52 AM

OK , I'm sure you do.
Just everybody else needs a copyright.
Ace - WH2T


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:
You don't have ownership rights to the BS you write unless it is
copyrighted.
Ace - WH2T


Wrong ace I do




[email protected] October 7th 05 02:28 AM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don't =

call Len down
for being OT.

I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call down=

Len
for being off topic?

Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off topic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.


Ah, yes. Lennie "asks for it." Typical stuff from abusers.


He doesn't "ask for it"...He just get's in kind what he delivers.


Hi!

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.


Strange. I most often read about him being off-topic.


I am sure your scope or reference is a bit myoptic.


And yours is "At least for a short time, a quality of vividness and
clarity of focus in our public discourse..."

Hi!

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work involv=

es restoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skills =

in those areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.

I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.

Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part and
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".


How would you know? Are you watching and following Len?


Nope, but that's HIS "standard response".


Right.

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.


Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.


You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...


I'm Quitefine in my orientation.

That was "microwave communications" in the FIFTIES, which bore
absolutely NO resemblence with current "microwave communications".


Gotta love you amateur geniuses always trying to change the physics of
radio in your laughable attempts to discredit Len. Too bad for you.

Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.


Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.


Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.


You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.


And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC. How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.


That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"


You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?

Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...


It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?


Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?


Itme, itme mispeeeling agin?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.


Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.


It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.


I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


an old friend October 7th 05 02:53 AM


Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:
OK , I'm sure you do.
Just everybody else needs a copyright.


no you don't your word are your property too as are Stveies and
everyone else
Ace - WH2T


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:
You don't have ownership rights to the BS you write unless it is
copyrighted.
Ace - WH2T


Wrong ace I do



an old friend October 7th 05 03:04 AM


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don'=

t call Len down
for being OT.

I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call do=

wn Len
for being off topic?

Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off top=

ic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.

Ah, yes. Lennie "asks for it." Typical stuff from abusers.


He doesn't "ask for it"...He just get's in kind what he delivers.


Hi!


the bald faced way in which Steveie cofesses is shocking

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to =

be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.

Strange. I most often read about him being off-topic.


I am sure your scope or reference is a bit myoptic.


And yours is "At least for a short time, a quality of vividness and
clarity of focus in our public discourse..."

Hi!

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work invo=

lves restoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skill=

s in those areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.

I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.

Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part a=

nd
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".

How would you know? Are you watching and following Len?


Nope, but that's HIS "standard response".


Right.

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, oth=

er
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.


You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...


I'm Quitefine in my orientation.


don'y you know that somehow for daring to oppose Stevie you sudden
became homosexual

HMM maybe Stevie is right about that perhaps I am bisexual because it
became certain somehow I would oppose Stevie and therefore I suddenly
became interested in Men

Stevie it is all your fault

That was "microwave communications" in the FIFTIES, which bore
absolutely NO resemblence with current "microwave communications".


Gotta love you amateur geniuses always trying to change the physics of
radio in your laughable attempts to discredit Len. Too bad for you.


"The very powerfull and the very have one thing in common they don't
alter thier veiws to fit the facts they alter the facts to fit the
views.... very inconvent if you are a fact in need of altering" (Dr
Who, "the face of evil")

Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.


Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.


Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.


or the Shack of most radio clubs


His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.


You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?


How dare suggest that one of MMM sully himself with anything not using
CW


His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.


And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC. How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.


nah he remebers it is just a secret

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.


That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"


You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?

Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.


wrong Brain everything is realy wrong with them

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...

It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions =

of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?


Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?


Itme, itme mispeeeling agin?


Well I don't do writing FOR ANYONE else without being paid

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.


It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.


I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


indeed Stevie claims only he (or does he include the rest of the MMM)
are allowed to decide what is discussed


K4YZ October 7th 05 11:59 AM


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

It's a problem when Len posts off-topic

Maybe a problem for you, but it's not a problem for me! I don'=

t call Len down
for being OT.

I just wonder where all the crying hams went that usually call do=

wn Len
for being off topic?

Most of the "crying" about "calling" Lennie for being "off top=

ic"
usually follows one of HIS diatribes wherein HE expends a lot of hot
air and mularkey about what constitutes a propper topic for the
newsgroup.

Ah, yes. Lennie "asks for it." Typical stuff from abusers.


He doesn't "ask for it"...He just get's in kind what he delivers.


Hi!


Hello yourself.

The same sort of spin he generates about others pretending to =

be
"moderator" immediately followed by his pontifications about what HE
perceives as being "appropriate" for discussion.

Strange. I most often read about him being off-topic.


I am sure your scope or reference is a bit myoptic.


And yours is "At least for a short time, a quality of vividness and
clarity of focus in our public discourse..."

Hi!


I already said hello. Memory a bit short, Brian?

Are those radio-telephone crafts?

Yes, as a matter of fact a large part of the recovery work invo=

lves restoring
microwave and cellular radio infrastructure. If you have skill=

s in those areas,
you might investigate the opportunity.

I think Len does. Probably what's keeping him off rrap.

Leonard H Anderson has no interest whatsoever in being part a=

nd
parcel of ANY kind of "public service" work. Lennie's absence is no
doubt due to yet another of his "trips".

How would you know? Are you watching and following Len?


Nope, but that's HIS "standard response".


Right.


We agree....Gee...put THIS day on tha calender!

BTW, Brian, Lennie has publically stated that his last "public
service" effort had to do with the filling of sandbags in
1970-something...His words...Not mine.

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, oth=

er
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.


You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...


I'm Quitefine in my orientation.


No, you're not.

That was "microwave communications" in the FIFTIES, which bore
absolutely NO resemblence with current "microwave communications".


Gotta love you amateur geniuses always trying to change the physics of
radio in your laughable attempts to discredit Len. Too bad for you.


Do some research on the state of "technology" in 1953 as compared
to today, Brian, to include what was considered "microwave" then as
opposed to today.

Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.


Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.


Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.


I can do with the stuff on my desktop most of what Lennie claims
he could do in 1953. I'd say that's a bit of a change.

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.


You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?


Yep.

But we weren't talking about you, me or meteorological systems,
now were we?

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.


And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC.


No...I don't DISCUSS military radios here, Brian. I have NEVER,
not ONCE said "I don't remember"...

That's a LennieSpin. And when repeated by him or you, is a lie.

How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.


To the point of nausea.

However SINCGARS was NEVER an Avionics system. Nor was it
intended to be.

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.


That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"


You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?


Who SAID I don't now them?

Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.


No, Brian, something is very, VERY wrong with your's and Lennie's
stories about them.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...

It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions =

of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?


Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?


Itme, itme mispeeeling agin?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.


It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.


I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


No, it's not.

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend October 7th 05 03:27 PM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

cut


BTW, Brian, Lennie has publically stated that his last "public
service" effort had to do with the filling of sandbags in
1970-something...His words...Not mine.


so what?

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.

break
You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...


I'm Quitefine in my orientation.


No, you're not.


that you think he isn't is the best proof a man could ask for that his
orienation is fine

cut
Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.

Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.


Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.


I can do with the stuff on my desktop most of what Lennie claims
he could do in 1953. I'd say that's a bit of a change.


not in physics it isn't

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.


You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?


Yep.

But we weren't talking about you, me or meteorological systems,
now were we?


well Brain was

again claiming that Only Stevie may decide on topics

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.


And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC.


No...I don't DISCUSS military radios here, Brian. I have NEVER,
not ONCE said "I don't remember"...


no you called an avoinics system a comissioned officer, it would have
been more convincing if you simply said you don't remember

BTW I remember very about the names of the Radio I came into contacct
with, only SINGARS stuck in my mind at all

That's a LennieSpin. And when repeated by him or you, is a lie.

How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.


To the point of nausea.

However SINCGARS was NEVER an Avionics system. Nor was it
intended to be.


no one ever said it an avoins systm more of you "Big Lie" stuff

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.

That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"


You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?


Who SAID I don't now them?


you


Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.


No, Brian, something is very, VERY wrong with your's and Lennie's
stories about them.


maybe it is that you can't back anything up after demanding that
everyone else do so

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.

It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.


I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


No, it's not.


yes he did

and it is interesting that you are obcessed with Len and I

Steve, K4YZ



[email protected] October 8th 05 01:58 AM


an old friend wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.

You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...


I'm Quitefine in my orientation.


don'y you know that somehow for daring to oppose Stevie you sudden
became homosexual


S.O.P. from Steve's playbook.

HMM maybe Stevie is right about that perhaps I am bisexual because it
became certain somehow I would oppose Stevie and therefore I suddenly
became interested in Men

Stevie it is all your fault


You might be right.

That was "microwave communications" in the FIFTIES, which bore
absolutely NO resemblence with current "microwave communications".


Gotta love you amateur geniuses always trying to change the physics of
radio in your laughable attempts to discredit Len. Too bad for you.


"The very powerfull and the very have one thing in common they don't
alter thier veiws to fit the facts they alter the facts to fit the
views.... very inconvent if you are a fact in need of altering" (Dr
Who, "the face of evil")


Dr. Who needed better looking women on his show. Could have been
immensely popular.

Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.

Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.


Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.


or the Shack of most radio clubs


His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.


You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?


How dare suggest that one of MMM sully himself with anything not using
CW

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.


And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC. How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.


nah he remebers it is just a secret

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.

That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"


You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?

Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.


wrong Brain everything is realy wrong with them

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...

It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?

Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?


Itme, itme mispeeeling agin?


Well I don't do writing FOR ANYONE else without being paid


and I'm broke.

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.

It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.


I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


indeed Stevie claims only he (or does he include the rest of the MMM)
are allowed to decide what is discussed


It would appear that way. Too bad I'm not buying any of that, tooey.


[email protected] October 8th 05 02:13 AM


K4YZ wrote:
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K4YZ wrote:
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K4YZ wrote:

Besides...What is needed at present are not "design engineers"
(which is what Lennie CLAIMS to be)...but installers and technicians
(jist as the thread title suggests) to get the new sites up and
running. The technology has already been "set", and each site, other
than local terrain, is exactly the same as the one next to it. Just
add water and shake.

Strange. I recall Len saying that he had been trained by the US Army
in microwave communications.

You need to re-orient yourself, Brian...


I'm Quitefine in my orientation.


No, you're not.


It's not your place to say.

That was "microwave communications" in the FIFTIES, which bore
absolutely NO resemblence with current "microwave communications".


Gotta love you amateur geniuses always trying to change the physics of
radio in your laughable attempts to discredit Len. Too bad for you.


Do some research on the state of "technology" in 1953 as compared
to today, Brian, to include what was considered "microwave" then as
opposed to today.


I'll allow you the privelege of documenting your research.

Except for perhaps West Point, Army
training is technical in nature; training personnel in the
installation, operation, and maintenance of equipment.

Uh huh...And the "equipment" Lennie was "trained" on required a
walk-in closet to facilitate.


Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.


I can do with the stuff on my desktop most of what Lennie claims
he could do in 1953. I'd say that's a bit of a change.


If it's microwave, I'd say you can't.

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.


He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.


You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?


Yep.


List them.

But we weren't talking about you, me or meteorological systems,
now were we?


Meteorology is a heavy user of communications.

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.


And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC.


No...I don't DISCUSS military radios here, Brian.


Of course not. You leave the heavy lifting to Brian Kelly/W3RV and Jim
Miccolis/N2EY, neither of whom has any military experience. I
especially like Jim's admiration of the amateur radio service during
WWII. Hi!

I have NEVER,
not ONCE said "I don't remember"...


Do you?

That's a LennieSpin. And when repeated by him or you, is a lie.


Ho, hum.

How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.


To the point of nausea.


Then it's working. ;^)

However SINCGARS was NEVER an Avionics system. Nor was it
intended to be.


And you know something of avionics systems? Hi!

That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.

That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"


You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?


Who SAID I don't now them?


"know"

Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.


No, Brian, something is very, VERY wrong with your's and Lennie's
stories about them.


You can set the record straight at anytime. You have my permission.

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...

It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?

Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?


Itme, itme mispeeeling agin?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.

It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.


I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


No, it's not.

Steve, K4YZ


Finish your thought. "No, it's not..." what?


an old friend October 9th 05 04:06 AM


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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

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Sounds like many a radio room at the base of a communications tower.


I can do with the stuff on my desktop most of what Lennie claims
he could do in 1953. I'd say that's a bit of a change.


If it's microwave, I'd say you can't.


but maybe I can or will be able to before long been slowing spreading
out in that direction

His design experience came later, so Len is actually qualified to do
both.

He's designed nothing. Not one thing. He's BOASTED of being a
"design engineer" for years, and frequently drops the names of projects
whose names appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.

You might find some of the systems that I worked on in the Bulletin of
the American Meteorological Societs (BAMS). Have you never worked on
anything worth appearing in a professional publication?


Yep.


List them.


Stevie can't list em will claim he could but he'd have to kill us

But we weren't talking about you, me or meteorological systems,
now were we?


Meteorology is a heavy user of communications.


indeed even a decent source of expecrence in Ham radio ops Skywarn

His only "radio" reference, other than being a radio mechanic at
ADA, is the SINCGARS program...A program absolutely irrelevent to
Amateur Radio, but he sure does make sure we hear about it.

And you can't remember the common or technical nomeclature of teh radio
systems that you claim to have used in the USMC.


No...I don't DISCUSS military radios here, Brian.


Of course not. You leave the heavy lifting to Brian Kelly/W3RV and Jim
Miccolis/N2EY, neither of whom has any military experience. I
especially like Jim's admiration of the amateur radio service during
WWII. Hi!

I have NEVER,
not ONCE said "I don't remember"...


Do you?

That's a LennieSpin. And when repeated by him or you, is a lie.


Ho, hum.

How is it that you
can remember the name of a system that Len worked on? I guess the
purpose of repititious postings has finally had an effect.


To the point of nausea.


Then it's working. ;^)


now maybe if Len keeps it up Stvie will throw up his bull****?

I doubt it even Len is not that persistant (whichis BTW a nod to Stvie
hard headedness

However SINCGARS was NEVER an Avionics system. Nor was it
intended to be.


And you know something of avionics systems? Hi!


I doubt it.

I am prepared to consider that he may have known something at some
time, in the past but i doubt he knows anything worthwhile about them
today


That bad, bad Len being qualified to do both! Gosh, he must have
decided early in life to lay the foundation to bust all of your rants.
Very inciteful, that Len.

That he managed to do enough to get paid and not so mcuh as to
muck up what ever program he was working on at the time are his ONLY
"contributions" to "radio"

You don't even know the radio systems that you claim to have used, yet
you know that Len has mucked up every program that he has worked on?


Who SAID I don't now them?


"know"

Something is really, really wrong with your claims, Steve.


No, Brian, something is very, VERY wrong with your's and Lennie's
stories about them.


You can set the record straight at anytime. You have my permission.


Such confidence you show in Stevie I fear it is misplaced, I don't
think Stvie can set any record straight

Of course too we presently have reams and reams of "front page"
media singing the praises of the Amateur Radio service being able to
"get through" when nothing else can, completely contrary to Lennie's
rhetoric of the past 8 years...

It's such a shame that our professionals waste millions and millions of
dollars each year installing, maintaining, and upgrading emergency
comms when a couple of overweight, senior cit hams can lay them all to
waste. Why do they even bother?

Huh? Is Mark Morgan ghost writing for you now?

Itme, itme mispeeeling agin?

Must be awfully embarrassing for him. But it's not the first
itme.

Such a big ego must cause you some embarassment from itme to itme,
tooey.

It's not my "ego" we're discussing...It's Lennie's.

I've just discussed your ego, tooey.


No, it's not.

Steve, K4YZ


Finish your thought. "No, it's not..." what?


Gee you must not expect so much out Stevie demanding that he think,
realy that is too much



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