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Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:12 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
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wrote:
You don't know how things work, Marky, the rest of the barracks would
testify that you "slipped on a bar of soap."

maybe but that does not alter the facts

Dan and you advocate vilence against those that are different

meaning they advocate criminal behavoir


No No Markie.....only against YOU.


which does not the change the fact you have called for Criminal
activity

that you advocate violence as a "solution" to those that don't conform
to your standards

You need your attitude
adjustment......anyone disagree?


now you go on to advocate mob action (or lynch mobs as theyd say in
your neck of the woods)


Of course they don't.


Doesn't matter Now you are claiming that Minnoities don't have basic
rights



You see Markie you
are a piece of garbage that needs flushed.

Not just an opinion.....a pure and simple fact.



nope just opinion from you facts form me

not that you are man to face up to what you advocate


Dan/W4NTI



You are such a weenie Markie. You have NO IDEA who your coming up against,
not just me BTW. You are LUCKY we ALL consider you a little baby in a grown
mans body. Or I assure you that your attitude would change on a one and one
encounter.

The ONLY reason you are ACTING the tough guy, and I do mean ACTING, is you
think you are out of reach. Well your not.

Take that any way you want wannabe tough guy. You don't worry me one little
bit. You are nothing but a big mouth, morally corrupt child trying to act
like a grown up in the real world. You are not even close. Stay home with
your parents. If you ever come out and play you will get your arse kicked
just for breathing.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:13 PM


"Dr.Ace - WH2T" wrote in message
...

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
You don't know how things work, Marky, the rest of the barracks would
testify that you "slipped on a bar of soap."

maybe but that does not alter the facts

Dan and you advocate vilence against those that are different

meaning they advocate criminal behavoir


No No Markie.....only against YOU.


which does not the change the fact you have called for Criminal
activity

that you advocate violence as a "solution" to those that don't conform
to your standards

You need your attitude
adjustment......anyone disagree?


now you go on to advocate mob action (or lynch mobs as theyd say in
your neck of the woods)


Of course they don't.


Doesn't matter Now you are claiming that Minnoities don't have basic
rights



You see Markie you
are a piece of garbage that needs flushed.

Not just an opinion.....a pure and simple fact.



nope just opinion from you facts form me

not that you are man to face up to what you advocate


Dan/W4NTI



What the hell are "Minnoities" ???
Dan, are you claiming that "Minnoities" don't have basic rights ?
ROTFLMAO

Ace - WH2T


That's right ACE, I hate thase dang "Minnoities".

Dan/W4NTI





Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:15 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dr.Ace - WH2T wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
. ..

Snipped

A candidate for a barracks party if I ever saw one.

again you so quickly go to suggesting violence

Dan/W4NTI


Markie,
I think Dan was just saying that if you had been in the military you
would
have quickly received a much needed attitude adjustment.

he was syaing I would have recieved one he considered neccassry but
you, me and Dan also know that what is being bloodlessly described as
an "attitude adjustment" is violent assault

a Felony in the civilan world and a courtmarial offense in the military
Ace - WH2T


I would venture to bet, and I'm not a betting man..,.unless it is a sure
thing (hi hi), that in ANY GROUP Markie came within ten feet of, and
opened
his mouth for only ten seconds. It would be a unanimous yes vote.


then pay up

That was your feeble attempt at Junior High School humor, right? Did you
learn that in the line for home economics class?

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:16 PM

I tend to agree with that. Before they start acting out on what they
"THINK" is real. Sort of Like Jeffery Dauber and the Son of Sam.

Dan/W4NTI
"Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message
. ..
I think basic rights should be denied to moronic retards. They need to be
institutionalized.

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

BDK wrote:
In article
.com,
says...

cut
The good old days is right!

and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on
such
bands

BDK



Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the
Liberty
Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers crying
about
the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old
puckered up
white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear them
talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants!

who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of Ham
radio"

BDK

A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every
discussion
should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old.

Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to
coment on the posts in here as everyone else



Dan/W4NTI

That's the point AOF, you don't.

ah but I do I have the same rights as you do

One day you might grow up and realize that fact, but I certainlly would
not recomend anyone hold thier breath waiting for it

You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal
of the rest of us

Dan/W4NTI

Your so-called rights STOP at my nose. I have the right not to be
annoyed by the likes of you, child brain, ignorant of basic facts about
ham radio. And too stupid to learn.

Now go away and suck your thumb.

Dan/W4NTI







Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:18 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

BDK wrote:
In article
.com,
says...

cut
The good old days is right!

and people dare suggest that I can in any way be harmfull on
such
bands

BDK



Now who said that? All the "illegal jammers", etc, made the
Liberty
Net..FUN. Now it's just a bunch of old KKK and Nazi losers
crying
about
the ...(insert race or jew here) picking on their poor old
puckered
up
white cracker asses. Awwwwww. One night, I did actually hear
them
talking about ...radio! I about crapped my pants!

who? well all these folks claiming No Code will be the "end of
Ham
radio"

BDK

A O F is a bit paranoid. He is under the impression that every
discussion
should include him. Sort of like a 3 year old.

Hmm Paranoia according to you is beliving I have the same right to
coment on the posts in here as everyone else



Dan/W4NTI

That's the point AOF, you don't.

ah but I do I have the same rights as you do

One day you might grow up and realize that fact, but I certainlly would
not recomend anyone hold thier breath waiting for it

You are one of those elist folks that can't accept that are ONLy equal
of the rest of us

Dan/W4NTI

Your so-called rights STOP at my nose.


agreed you got this part right

I have the right not to be annoyed
by the likes of you, child brain, ignorant of basic facts about ham
radio.


but you blow it here

you do not have the right not to be annoyed

you have the right not to read any I or anyone else writes but not to
regulate what we write or wether we write something that annoys you

And too stupid to learn.


you are just being you ignorant self smething you have a right be, if
you are fool enough to choose it

Now go away and suck your thumb.


they you are pusing it I have the same right to be here and post as you
do


Dan/W4NTI



Hey group../././.Could someone translate this last attemp at communication
from Markie? Especially the last part.....what the hell is "pussing"
???????

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:26 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message



gee asserting that one has equal rights in amercia make someone an
idiot in your eyes


No Markie...just YOU. You can't even write a sentence that makes sense.
Thus you are impossible to argue with.....because...???.....That's right
Markie because you can't be understood.

But I'll keep trying...I like watching you jump up and down like a Mexican
jumping bean... No rime, no reason...just jumping.

shows you do not adhere to pricinples of the US Consitituion, or to the
rule of law

I fought for Constitution of this country. I fought for your RIGHT to show
your IGNORANCE on a daily basis.

What did you put your life on the line for Markey? Don't bother...I already
know.

those deny right to other tendto lose them themselves


Boy are you out of touch...No surprise there, eh folks? Our so called
rights have been going away for a long time now.

But that's another subject which I dang sure don't want to get involved in
with you. Your already too confused about a simple thing as your toe being
on fire.


you sound like a bigot and ahte monger a real asset to the ARS


And what have YOU done for Amateur Radio Markie? Just a short list please,
because we all know that is all you got.....Oh let me save you the trouble.

1. You passed the simplest test in Amateur Radio, The Technician NO CODE.

2. You refuse to learn Morse Code to upgrade.

3. You have decided to spend most of your time on this group blaming
everyone for your inadequencies.

That about covers the basics.

Dan/W4NTI




Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:36 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
KY4Z wrote:


Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.


Saying anything that an_old_idiot doesn't agree with is 'violating his
rights'.


not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act


No its not

I even defend the rights of you and Stevie even Dan when he is right,
as vile as you are


Anyone notice how he keeps ranting about alleged threats of violence? My
opinion of him being a child needs modified.

He is a MAMA's BOY. A wimp, A loser, a drop out of life BEFORE he even
played the game.

Maybe we should leave him alone. He might slap himself with a fly swatter
or something.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI October 10th 05 10:39 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
I knew Stevie could not keep out something like this for long

KY4Z wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:


You would not believe your toe was on fire unless some one you
"trust" told
you.

realy going off the deep end Danny boy


"Really"

In your case...that would be no one. And your foot would burn off.

realy delusional Dan


"Really"

Don't you see how idiotic you sound Markie?

gee asserting that one has equal rights in amercia make someone an
idiot in your eyes


A M E R I C A.

shows you do not adhere to pricinples of the US Consitituion, or to the
rule of law


"principles"

Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.


wrong again but then you are almost always wrong

it is a violation of a persons civil rights to advocate violence
against them
Dan has sai plainly that I see that I lack any rights at all, let
alone the same as himself

both are plainly at varriance with the Constitution of the US


Perhaps it would be better if you actually had read the Constitution. It is
available on line.

Then go read the First ten Ammendments, usually refered to as the "Bill of
Rights".

After that you can come back and ammend your statement of what you
understand.

This could get interesting folks.

snip


Dan/W4NTI




an old friend October 10th 05 11:32 PM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

cut
nope just opinion from you facts form me

not that you are man to face up to what you advocate


Dan/W4NTI



You are such a weenie Markie. You have NO IDEA who your coming up against,
not just me BTW.


I know exactly what I am up against

You are LUCKY we ALL consider you a little baby in a grown
mans body. Or I assure you that your attitude would change on a one and one
encounter.


more threats of Violence little boy

The ONLY reason you are ACTING the tough guy, and I do mean ACTING, is you
think you are out of reach. Well your not.


I know I am out the reach of anything you bring to bear, unless you
choose to break the law, in which case I am prepared for you in the
unlikely effect you are serious

The only reason you dare to (try) such bulling is that you know you are
basicaly out of My reach


Take that any way you want wannabe tough guy. You don't worry me one little
bit.


and yet you make threats of violence. I simply don't believe you

I worry quite bit on at least some level


You are nothing but a big mouth, morally corrupt child trying to act
like a grown up in the real world. You are not even close. Stay home with
your parents. If you ever come out and play you will get your arse kicked
just for breathing.


more threats


Dan/W4NTI



an old friend October 10th 05 11:34 PM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

cut

Markie,
I think Dan was just saying that if you had been in the military you
would
have quickly received a much needed attitude adjustment.

he was syaing I would have recieved one he considered neccassry but
you, me and Dan also know that what is being bloodlessly described as
an "attitude adjustment" is violent assault

a Felony in the civilan world and a courtmarial offense in the military
Ace - WH2T


I would venture to bet, and I'm not a betting man..,.unless it is a sure
thing (hi hi), that in ANY GROUP Markie came within ten feet of, and
opened
his mouth for only ten seconds. It would be a unanimous yes vote.


then pay up

That was your feeble attempt at Junior High School humor, right? Did you
learn that in the line for home economics class?


nope It was pointing out the fact you are lying

even here in RRAP this vote would not be unanimous vote

you are blow hard

very brave becuase you know you are basicaly out of reach

Dan/W4NTI



an old friend October 10th 05 11:35 PM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
KY4Z wrote:


Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.

Saying anything that an_old_idiot doesn't agree with is 'violating his
rights'.


not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act


No its not

I even defend the rights of you and Stevie even Dan when he is right,
as vile as you are


Anyone notice how he keeps ranting about alleged threats of violence? My
opinion of him being a child needs modified.


well you have been making threats for days

He is a MAMA's BOY. A wimp, A loser, a drop out of life BEFORE he even
played the game.

Maybe we should leave him alone. He might slap himself with a fly swatter
or something.

Dan/W4NTI



an old friend October 10th 05 11:40 PM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message



gee asserting that one has equal rights in amercia make someone an
idiot in your eyes


No Markie...just YOU.


proving my point.

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal


You can't even write a sentence that makes sense.
Thus you are impossible to argue with.....because...???.....That's right
Markie because you can't be understood.


which even if true, doesn't affect the fact I have the same rights as
you do

But I'll keep trying...I like watching you jump up and down like a Mexican
jumping bean... No rime, no reason...just jumping.

shows you do not adhere to pricinples of the US Consitituion, or to the
rule of law

I fought for Constitution of this country. I fought for your RIGHT to show
your IGNORANCE on a daily basis.

What did you put your life on the line for Markey? Don't bother...I already
know.


no you don't know clearly. It is quite clear you don't know what the
nation is or what it stands for


those deny right to other tendto lose them themselves


Boy are you out of touch...No surprise there, eh folks? Our so called
rights have been going away for a long time now.


in part becuase of folks exactly like yourself


But that's another subject which I dang sure don't want to get involved in
with you.


then don't no one is making you

Your already too confused about a simple thing as your toe being
on fire.


my toe is not on fire



you sound like a bigot and ahte monger a real asset to the ARS


And what have YOU done for Amateur Radio Markie? Just a short list please,
because we all know that is all you got.....Oh let me save you the trouble.

1. You passed the simplest test in Amateur Radio, The Technician NO CODE.


wrong I did pass too test for it


2. You refuse to learn Morse Code to upgrade.


wrong again


3. You have decided to spend most of your time on this group blaming
everyone for your inadequencies.


never ever done that


That about covers the basics.

Dan/W4NTI



an old friend October 10th 05 11:43 PM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
I knew Stevie could not keep out something like this for long

cut
wrong again but then you are almost always wrong

it is a violation of a persons civil rights to advocate violence
against them
Dan has sai plainly that I see that I lack any rights at all, let
alone the same as himself

both are plainly at varriance with the Constitution of the US


Perhaps it would be better if you actually had read the Constitution. It is
available on line.


I have read it


Then go read the First ten Ammendments, usually refered to as the "Bill of
Rights".


read them too


After that you can come back and ammend your statement of what you
understand.


amend how?

you are hate monger

you refuse to reconize that I have the same rights as your yourself

you advocate crime

you threaten physcial violence because I dare disagree with you


This could get interesting folks.


nah more of the boring **** we see when the porcoders some out to play


snip


Dan/W4NTI



Dr.Ace October 11th 05 01:37 AM

Snipped


Now go away and suck your thumb.


they you are pusing it I have the same right to be here and post as you
do


Dan/W4NTI



WTF is A_O_F babbling about now?
I have rights
I have rights
I have rights
I have rights
I have rights
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ace - WH2T



Dr.Ace October 11th 05 01:43 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:


Snipped



This could get interesting folks.


nah more of the boring **** we see when the porcoders some out to play


snip


Dan/W4NTI


Well, I guess I'm a "porcoder" and I've "some out to play"
LOL
Ace - WH2T



an old friend October 11th 05 02:56 AM


Dr.Ace wrote:
Snipped


Now go away and suck your thumb.


they you are pusing it I have the same right to be here and post as you
do


Dan/W4NTI



WTF is A_O_F babbling about now?
I have rights


indeed you do have rights

as do I
I have rights
I have rights
I have rights
I have rights
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ace - WH2T



Jeff October 11th 05 03:36 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message



gee asserting that one has equal rights in amercia make someone an
idiot in your eyes


No Markie...just YOU.


proving my point.

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....



Jeff October 11th 05 03:40 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
KY4Z wrote:


Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.

Saying anything that an_old_idiot doesn't agree with is 'violating his
rights'.

not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.



an old friend October 11th 05 03:53 AM


Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
KY4Z wrote:


Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.

Saying anything that an_old_idiot doesn't agree with is 'violating his
rights'.

not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.


not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law


Honus October 11th 05 04:49 AM


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message


you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....


You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?





an old friend October 11th 05 05:06 AM


Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message


you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....


You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.


it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?


no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC


[email protected] October 11th 05 03:01 PM


an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message


you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....


You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.


it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?


no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC


Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner. As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky. Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce.


an old friend October 11th 05 04:55 PM


wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.


it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?


no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC


Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.


Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english


As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.


the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders

Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce


yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses


[email protected] October 11th 05 09:00 PM


an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC


Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.


Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english


You are the one that said to this statement:
Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?


You replied:

"no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

SC"

YOU are the one who said the document wasn't written by slaveholders,
when anybody with a modicum of education knows differently, Marky.

You are the one in desperate need of learning English, child abuser.

As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.


the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders


You are even more stupid then you show on here, Marky, if you think
that... Adams and Franklin were not minor roleplayers, either, stupid.

Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce


yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses


Wrong stupid, as usual.


an old friend October 11th 05 09:26 PM


wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.


Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english


You are the one that said to this statement:
Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?


You replied:

"no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

SC"

YOU are the one who said the document wasn't written by slaveholders,
when anybody with a modicum of education knows differently, Marky.


anyone one with a real education knows that it was written by A slave
Holder, not by a group of them, but I guess that lets you out


You are the one in desperate need of learning English, child abuser.

As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.


the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders


You are even more stupid then you show on here, Marky, if you think
that... Adams and Franklin were not minor roleplayers, either, stupid.


Minor in American indenpendance no in the writing of the document yes,
at Adams is a minor player in that drama according to Adams, Franklin
according to Adams and Jefferson, one the few things Adamas and
jefferson agred on in later year

and none of the other persona mention ( Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman) were slave holders at all

therefore again the document was not written by slaveholders in the
pural


shocking the lack of education displayed


Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce


yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses


Wrong stupid, as usual.


I am right on target


Dan/W4NTI October 11th 05 11:02 PM


"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
KY4Z wrote:


Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep
end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates
ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.

Saying anything that an_old_idiot doesn't agree with is 'violating
his
rights'.

not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander"
is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.


not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law


Dag Nab it Jeff...you wound up Markie again. Now he has switched to his
lawyer robes and white wig.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI October 11th 05 11:04 PM


"Dr.Ace" wrote in message
...

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:


Snipped



This could get interesting folks.


nah more of the boring **** we see when the porcoders some out to play


snip


Dan/W4NTI


Well, I guess I'm a "porcoder" and I've "some out to play"
LOL
Ace - WH2T


A "porcoder"......is that like a dish of porridge? Where Goldie Locks
steals it from baby bear?

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI October 11th 05 11:07 PM

Gutless puke didn't even answer the question. Course I knew he wouldn't.

Dan/W4NTI

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message



gee asserting that one has equal rights in amercia make someone an
idiot in your eyes


No Markie...just YOU.


proving my point.

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal


You dont seem to get it Markie.....Im not saying you have no rights because
the Constitution says so (you claim). Actually it is the Bill of Rights. I
object to you being equal in that you "claim" to be a man.

Based on you actions here I despute you are indeed a man.


You can't even write a sentence that makes sense.
Thus you are impossible to argue with.....because...???.....That's right
Markie because you can't be understood.


which even if true, doesn't affect the fact I have the same rights as
you do

But I'll keep trying...I like watching you jump up and down like a
Mexican
jumping bean... No rime, no reason...just jumping.

shows you do not adhere to pricinples of the US Consitituion, or to the
rule of law

I fought for Constitution of this country. I fought for your RIGHT to
show
your IGNORANCE on a daily basis.

What did you put your life on the line for Markey? Don't bother...I
already
know.


no you don't know clearly. It is quite clear you don't know what the
nation is or what it stands for


those deny right to other tendto lose them themselves


Boy are you out of touch...No surprise there, eh folks? Our so called
rights have been going away for a long time now.


in part becuase of folks exactly like yourself


But that's another subject which I dang sure don't want to get involved
in
with you.


then don't no one is making you

Your already too confused about a simple thing as your toe being
on fire.


my toe is not on fire



you sound like a bigot and ahte monger a real asset to the ARS


And what have YOU done for Amateur Radio Markie? Just a short list
please,
because we all know that is all you got.....Oh let me save you the
trouble.

1. You passed the simplest test in Amateur Radio, The Technician NO
CODE.


wrong I did pass too test for it


2. You refuse to learn Morse Code to upgrade.


wrong again


3. You have decided to spend most of your time on this group blaming
everyone for your inadequencies.


never ever done that


That about covers the basics.

Dan/W4NTI





Honus October 12th 05 01:19 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

shocking the lack of education displayed


And that lack wouldn't be so obvious if you had a spell-checker.



Honus October 12th 05 01:32 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message


you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal


-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....


You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence,

and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.


it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA


The premise is stated in the DoI, not the Constitution. But I can see all
too clearly that this cause is lost.

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of


Pedantic nonsense aside, my point, not that it's original with me, still
stands.




Honus October 12th 05 01:32 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

you realy should try learning english


Oh Lord.



Dan/W4NTI October 12th 05 02:00 AM


"Honus" wrote in message
news:LQY2f.25226$3w.20208@trnddc07...

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

you realy should try learning english


Oh Lord.



Has any one else noticed that all Markie does is copy the opponents
argument? Even to the exact words.

Dan/W4NTI



Jeff October 12th 05 02:50 AM


"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...


not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.


not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged. The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats. I could threaten
people all day long and I "might" get a visit by the cops asking me what
my problem is, but thats about all thats going to happen. You are getting
confused with people who may raise a fist or other object and threatening
to hit them, that, technically is assault. But just making a statement of
threat dont mean squat and never has.


J





Honus October 12th 05 05:44 AM


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:GZZ2f.427494$_o.84828@attbi_s71...


Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged. The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats. I could

threaten
people all day long and I "might" get a visit by the cops asking me what
my problem is, but thats about all thats going to happen. You are getting
confused with people who may raise a fist or other object and threatening
to hit them, that, technically is assault. But just making a statement of
threat dont mean squat and never has.


Lord, I just can't help myself.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=3461

Personally speaking, I think you ought to be able to say what that guy did
and get away with it. But that's just me, and I wasn't on the jury. As for
making a statement of threat, you guys need to research the phrase "true
threat".

Therein lie your answers. ;)




Honus October 12th 05 05:45 AM


"Honus" wrote in message
news:Sw03f.37075$q81.35200@trnddc06...

Personally speaking, I think you ought to be able to say what that guy did
and get away with it. But that's just me, and I wasn't on the jury. As for
making a statement of threat, you guys need to research the phrase "true
threat".

Therein lie your answers. ;)


Oh, nuts...here's an article with examples for you. Don't say I never did
you guys any favors. ;)

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=556



an old friend October 12th 05 07:35 AM


Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...


not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.


not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged.


happens all the time mostly in mob cases

and there are people still in jail for merely threatening reagan as a
joke

people were arested for threatening Mrs Bush on the campiagn trail

The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats.


guess you have never read the hate crimes laws in the nation


I could threaten
people all day long and I "might" get a visit by the cops asking me what
my problem is, but thats about all thats going to happen. You are getting
confused with people who may raise a fist or other object and threatening
to hit them, that, technically is assault. But just making a statement of
threat dont mean squat and never has.


J



an old friend October 12th 05 07:41 AM


Honus wrote:
"Honus" wrote in message
news:Sw03f.37075$q81.35200@trnddc06...

Personally speaking, I think you ought to be able to say what that guy did
and get away with it. But that's just me, and I wasn't on the jury. As for
making a statement of threat, you guys need to research the phrase "true
threat".

Therein lie your answers. ;)


Oh, nuts...here's an article with examples for you. Don't say I never did
you guys any favors. ;)


I can't promise to never say it (I can be forgetfull) but if I should
do so in the future do remind me and I promise to apologize sir

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=556

form the above link quote

On appeal, the defendants argued that the content of the posters and
Web site were protected speech under the First Amendment. But the full
Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld ACLA's liability, finding that
the content on the posters and Web site constituted an unprotected true
threat.

The court defined a true threat as a statement made when a "reasonable
person would foresee that the statement would be interpreted by those
to whom the maker communicates the statement as a serious expression of
intent to harm." [See Planned Parenthood, 290 f.3d at 1074, 1088.] The
test is an objective one; the defendant does not have to actually
intend to, or be able to, carry out the threat. [Id. at 1076.] In the
Planned Parenthood case, the Ninth Circuit found that it was reasonable
for ACLA members to foresee that the named abortion providers would
interpret the posters and Web site postings as a serious expression of
ACLA members' intent to harm them.

unquote


[email protected] October 12th 05 01:44 PM


an old friend wrote:
Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...


not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander" is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.

not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged.


happens all the time mostly in mob cases


You watch too much TV, Marky.

and there are people still in jail for merely threatening reagan as a
joke

people were arested for threatening Mrs Bush on the campiagn trail


Marky the imbecile always gets it wrong.


The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats.


guess you have never read the hate crimes laws in the nation


It's obvious you can't read, period.


[email protected] October 12th 05 01:51 PM


an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.

Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english


You are the one that said to this statement:
Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?


You replied:

"no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

SC"

YOU are the one who said the document wasn't written by slaveholders,
when anybody with a modicum of education knows differently, Marky.


anyone one with a real education knows that it was written by A slave
Holder, not by a group of them, but I guess that lets you out


Yet, YOU are the one who said it wasn't, not anybody else, Marky. And
trying to use my exact same argument back to me is lame, but you are a
world class fool.


You are the one in desperate need of learning English, child abuser.

As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.

the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders


You are even more stupid then you show on here, Marky, if you think
that... Adams and Franklin were not minor roleplayers, either, stupid.


Minor in American indenpendance no in the writing of the document yes,


No, stupid. You are wrong, as usual.

at Adams is a minor player in that drama according to Adams, Franklin
according to Adams and Jefferson, one the few things Adamas and
jefferson agred on in later year


You are really ****ing stupid, Marky. You need to go back to school,
also.


and none of the other persona mention ( Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman) were slave holders at all

therefore again the document was not written by slaveholders in the
pural


God are you stupid, Marky. What about the authors of the document from
all the Southern Colonies which later became states?

shocking the lack of education displayed


Oh, the irony, Marky.


Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce

yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses


Wrong stupid, as usual.


I am right on target


No, stupid, you missed by a parsec.


Jeff October 13th 05 12:46 AM


"Honus" wrote in message news:Sw03f.37075$q81.35200@trnddc06...

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:GZZ2f.427494$_o.84828@attbi_s71...


Double BS,, cite me "one" case where someone "threatened'
to do something and got charged. The legal system hasnt gone to
hell,,,, there never has been a law against making threats. I could

threaten
people all day long and I "might" get a visit by the cops asking me what
my problem is, but thats about all thats going to happen. You are getting
confused with people who may raise a fist or other object and threatening
to hit them, that, technically is assault. But just making a statement of
threat dont mean squat and never has.


Lord, I just can't help myself.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=3461

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes I should have prefaced my statement by "except" the
president, etc. I was talking private citzen to private citizen.




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