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Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Have any of you made contacts through it, or directly with NA1SS? Do any of you use NASA's www.science.nasa.gov site to determine the footprint? Why bother with old fashioned radio equipment when ISS is regularly on both Echolink and IRLP? While it's true that anyone with a 2M HT pretty much has all the equipment needed for an on-the-air contact, the time and footprint restrictions are too severe to make that a mode which is even practical for more than one trial contact. Tried it once and didn't particularly like it (144.49 MHz / 145.80 MHz). Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable. See http://www.rac.ca/ariss/oindex.htm for info on Echolink conference schedules. Apparently, the astronauts haven't gotten the message yet that "Echolink isn't real ham radio." |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Have any of you made contacts through it, or directly with NA1SS? Do any of you use NASA's www.science.nasa.gov site to determine the footprint? Why bother with old fashioned radio equipment when ISS is regularly on both Echolink and IRLP? Becasue I LIKE "old fashioned radio equipment". I like Amateur Radio because I LIKE radios. Anyone can turn the computer on and "chat" with someone on the far side of the planet. It takes a bit of skill to do it without wires. While it's true that anyone with a 2M HT pretty much has all the equipment needed for an on-the-air contact, the time and footprint restrictions are too severe to make that a mode which is even practical for more than one trial contact. Tried it once and didn't particularly like it (144.49 MHz / 145.80 MHz). I've worked MIR twice on that pair and had a blast. I guess it's easy to "not like" if you don't have the requisite skills or capable staion to do it with. Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable. Perhaps it is. And if that's what spins your propeller, mor power to you. But making a "contact" via Echolink is no more challenging that turning the light on when you enter a room. See http://www.rac.ca/ariss/oindex.htm for info on Echolink conference schedules. Apparently, the astronauts haven't gotten the message yet that "Echolink isn't real ham radio." Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode. However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no skill in that. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. I've worked MIR twice on that pair and had a blast. I guess it's easy to "not like" if you don't have the requisite skills or capable staion to do it with. I made contacts through AMSAT way back in the early 70's when the OSCAR series of the 60's was being continued. It boiled down to being a novelty activity for hams, but one which only imitated what communications engineers and other professionals had pioneered long before hams used a satellite. In fact, most OSCAR satellites were stuffed into the unused space in government launch vehicles and were essentially CARE packages from those who were doing the real pioneering work. Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable. Perhaps it is. And if that's what spins your propeller, mor power to you. But making a "contact" via Echolink is no more challenging that turning the light on when you enter a room. I see. And I suppose that, when you decide to cross a river, you eschew the nearby bridges in favor of swimming across instead. Do you also use a horse instead of choosing to own a car? Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode. However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no skill in that. Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real skill in that either. But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol (UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it. In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members of the amateur community. If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in my estimation. |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. indeed you don't and trying to use crossband capcity can in fact be harder than using 2 monoband radios I've worked MIR twice on that pair and had a blast. I guess it's easy to "not like" if you don't have the requisite skills or capable staion to do it with. I made contacts through AMSAT way back in the early 70's when the OSCAR series of the 60's was being continued. It boiled down to being a novelty activity for hams, but one which only imitated what communications engineers and other professionals had pioneered long before hams used a satellite. In fact, most OSCAR satellites were stuffed into the unused space in government launch vehicles and were essentially CARE packages from those who were doing the real pioneering work. Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable. Perhaps it is. And if that's what spins your propeller, mor power to you. But making a "contact" via Echolink is no more challenging that turning the light on when you enter a room. I see. bear in mind Steve one of the folks claiming how awful it will to end CW testing Steve is of the S&M school of licensing claiming we must suffer to get our licenses And I suppose that, when you decide to cross a river, you eschew the nearby bridges in favor of swimming across instead. Do you also use a horse instead of choosing to own a car? Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode. However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no skill in that. Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real skill in that either. But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol (UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it. In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members of the amateur community. he is not into tehinal skil instead on AIR S&M If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in my estimation. |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. At some place there is a receiver and a transmitter operating on different bands in order to operate the ISS crossband repeater. YOU may not have it at your "station"...However it's still required. You're simply acting as the remote operator of someone else's Amateur station. I've worked MIR twice on that pair and had a blast. I guess it's easy to "not like" if you don't have the requisite skills or capable staion to do it with. I made contacts through AMSAT way back in the early 70's when the OSCAR series of the 60's was being continued. It boiled down to being a novelty activity for hams, but one which only imitated what communications engineers and other professionals had pioneered long before hams used a satellite. In fact, most OSCAR satellites were stuffed into the unused space in government launch vehicles and were essentially CARE packages from those who were doing the real pioneering work. Which does not speak to your station NOW. Since you do not include a callsign, all I can do is "assume" that this is a bit of blustery buffoonery by Lennie the Licenseless or someone like him quoting the works of others. I see a lot of that "professional engineers are better than hams" rhetoric there. Nope, I say the VoIP Echolink or IRLP method is much more reliable. Perhaps it is. And if that's what spins your propeller, more power to you. But making a "contact" via Echolink is no more challenging that turning the light on when you enter a room. I see. And I suppose that, when you decide to cross a river, you eschew the nearby bridges in favor of swimming across instead. Do you also use a horse instead of choosing to own a car? Nope. But then neither of them is "radio". I am a licensed Amateur RADIO operator because I enjoy operating RADIOS. If I were an Olympic swimmer I just might cross that river IN it rather than over it, and if I were Amish, I'd use that horse to get around rather than a car. Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode. However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no skill in that. Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real skill in that either. OK. Just turn on a radio and push a button. Any button. Talk to anyone without selecting the right frequency, split, mode, antenna, etc etc etc ...?!?! Or does it take a bit of knowledge and skill to get that radio working into a proper antenna, on the proper frequency to actually make that contact...?!?! Did you make your alleged OSCAR contacts by just "pushing a button", or did you have to know a bit about Kleperian tables, AOS/LOS schedules, polarization techniques, Doppler effect...?!?! But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol (UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it. In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members of the amateur community. I submit that there is a whole flock of guys out thre who just down loaded the software and got on the computer when they were told to. I know of at least 2 or three locally who have done exactly that. If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in my estimation. Judging by the foregoing statements, I'd say you're probably not a licensed Amateur and are just pulling rabbits out of someone else's hat. And as for applicance operators, who built YOUR computer...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. At some place there is a receiver and a transmitter operating on different bands in order to operate the ISS crossband repeater. whch isn't exactly the same as having croband cappicity cut Which does not speak to your station NOW. Since you do not include a callsign, all I can do is "assume" that this is a bit of blustery buffoonery by Lennie the Licenseless or someone like him quoting the works of others. I see a lot of that "professional engineers are better than hams" rhetoric there. more attack sinc he has dared to disagree with you in the slughtist cut Nope. But then neither of them is "radio". I am a licensed Amateur RADIO operator because I enjoy operating RADIOS. steping up yet again If I were an Olympic swimmer I just might cross that river IN it rather than over it, and if I were Amish, I'd use that horse to get around rather than a car. Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode. However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no skill in that. Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real skill in that either. OK. Just turn on a radio and push a button. Any button. Talk to anyone without selecting the right frequency, split, mode, antenna, etc etc etc ...?!?! now realy going off Or does it take a bit of knowledge and skill to get that radio working into a proper antenna, on the proper frequency to actually make that contact...?!?! Did you make your alleged OSCAR contacts by just "pushing a button", or did you have to know a bit about Kleperian tables, AOS/LOS schedules, polarization techniques, Doppler effect...?!?! cut I submit that there is a whole flock of guys out thre who just down loaded the software and got on the computer when they were told to. I know of at least 2 or three locally who have done exactly that. sonituing to escalte If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in my estimation. Judging by the foregoing statements, I'd say you're probably not a licensed Amateur and are just pulling rabbits out of someone else's hat. And as for applicance operators, who built YOUR computer...?!?! more of Steves miciron thin skin at work an interesting case study this one s i t shows Steve acting with out any past hsitory with the guy and he chooses to fight Steve, K4YZ |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
" attack attack attack fight" Gee, Markie, YOU are the one who's changed the subject line of this thread THREE TIMES into "attack" subjects...The most current past one being proof. K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. At some place there is a receiver and a transmitter operating on different bands in order to operate the ISS crossband repeater. whch isn't exactly the same as having croband cappicity Sure it is. At some point in time there HAS to be a crossband operating Amateur Radio station to make this work. The ISS repeater is listening on 70 centimeters. It's retransmitting on 2 meters. THAT is crossband operation. SOMEone had to take the time to set up the gear, put the antennas up, etc etc etc to make it work. There are terrestrial Amateur RADIO stations that are operating in that configuration. cut Which does not speak to your station NOW. Since you do not include a callsign, all I can do is "assume" that this is a bit of blustery buffoonery by Lennie the Licenseless or someone like him quoting the works of others. I see a lot of that "professional engineers are better than hams" rhetoric there. more attack sinc he has dared to disagree with you in the slughtist The "slughtist"...?!?!? More made up words, Markie. GET A DICTIONARY! And as for the "disagreeing", I wasn't the one who initiated that exchange. All I wanted to know was who in our "circle" were set up to work ISS. cut Nope. But then neither of them is "radio". I am a licensed Amateur RADIO operator because I enjoy operating RADIOS. steping up yet again How's that? Since you snipped the relevent parts of the paragraphs, all is left is something for you to try and snipe at. Didn't work. If I were an Olympic swimmer I just might cross that river IN it rather than over it, and if I were Amish, I'd use that horse to get around rather than a car. Some can say that about FM, or SSB, or CW, or any other mode. However anyone can turn the computer on and work Echolink. There's no skill in that. Anyone can turn on a transceiver and push a button. There's no real skill in that either. OK. Just turn on a radio and push a button. Any button. Talk to anyone without selecting the right frequency, split, mode, antenna, etc etc etc ...?!?! now realy going off I am sure you are, Markie. Prove any of my statements inaccurate... "Larry" is the one who made some silly comments about just "push(ing) a button"...Not me. Or does it take a bit of knowledge and skill to get that radio working into a proper antenna, on the proper frequency to actually make that contact...?!?! Did you make your alleged OSCAR contacts by just "pushing a button", or did you have to know a bit about Kleperian tables, AOS/LOS schedules, polarization techniques, Doppler effect...?!?! cut I submit that there is a whole flock of guys out thre who just down loaded the software and got on the computer when they were told to. I know of at least 2 or three locally who have done exactly that. sonituing to escalte WHAT...?!?! What's "sonituing"...?!?!? "Escalte"...?!?!? Isn't that a new model of Cadillac? And Markie...Prove any of the foregoing paragraph wrong. Do YOU know what it takes to work through ISS? Can you access the satellites? Did you ever get a QSL card from MIR, even for an SWL logging? If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in my estimation. Judging by the foregoing statements, I'd say you're probably not a licensed Amateur and are just pulling rabbits out of someone else's hat. And as for applicance operators, who built YOUR computer...?!?! more of Steves miciron thin skin at work "Miciron"... I think that was a "planet" in an episode ot ST:TNG an interesting case study this one s i t shows Steve acting with out any past hsitory with the guy and he chooses to fight No fight, Markie. Someone without the cajones to identify him/herself throws in some slap-in-the-face comments to a straight forward, no "insults" post. I appreciate that some people like using VoIP over real radios. I've never once said "that's not real Ham Radio". However "Larry" here wanted to dig in and try to impress us with how "modern" his way is over direct contact communication with the ISS via Amateur Radio. That's MY prefered way of communicating, and if he cares to have his preferences respected, he didn't need to dive in like he did. And in the long run, "my" way still requires a bit more skill and technique than Larry putting a sound card in his pooter. His comments have Lennism written all over them. That's not to say that Lennie wrote them, it's just the same "ideal". That YOU were so quick to jump in and "defend" them only reinforces that concept. Steve, K4YZ |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
Larry wrote: On 29 Jan 2006 20:42:04 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Larry wrote: On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote: Greetings All, Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater? Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means. Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband capability to use the ISS repeater. At some place there is a receiver and a transmitter operating on different bands in order to operate the ISS crossband repeater. From http://www.rac.ca/ariss/oindex.htm#F...ies%20in%20use -- "The following frequencies are currently used for ARISS general QSO's Voice and Packet Downlink: 145.80 (Worldwide) Voice Uplink: 144.49 for Regions 2 and 3 (The Americas, and the Pacific) Voice Uplink: 145.20 for Region 1 (Europe, Central Asia and Africa) Packet Uplink: 145.99 (Worldwide) Crossband FM repeater downlink: 145.80 MHz (Worldwide) Crossband FM repeater uplink: 437.80 MHz (Worldwide)" See the 2M uplink frequencies? That means you can stay in the 2M band if you wish, and that crossband is optional, just as I originally stated. My INITIAL question was about operating the CROSSBAND REPEATER in the first place, and nothing you have posted here changes any of that. Your "uplink" frequencies are accurate ONLY for direct voice contacts with the crew or packet uplinks to the NA1SS autobot...NOT the repeater. If you wish to work the CROSSBAND REPEATER you must have the requisite equipment (unless, of course, you're just going to use someone ELSE'S equipment by using Echolink.....But you are STILL operating CROSSBAND) Did you make your alleged OSCAR contacts by just "pushing a button", or did you have to know a bit about Kleperian tables, AOS/LOS schedules, polarization techniques, Doppler effect...?!?! Those were the days of 2M home brewers; not the repeater appliance operators who later dominated the band. I built my own transmitter and used a low noise down converter in front of a 10M receiver. By the way, those are "Keplerian" tables, and nobody in his right mind would use those things when simple-to-use orbital nomographs were readily available. My misplelling noted, however nothing is changed. But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol (UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it. In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members of the amateur community. I submit that there is a whole flock of guys out thre who just down loaded the software and got on the computer when they were told to. I know of at least 2 or three locally who have done exactly that. If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in my estimation. Judging by the foregoing statements, I'd say you're probably not a licensed Amateur and are just pulling rabbits out of someone else's Actually, I've been licensed longer than you have, but my ego doesn't depend upon my ham license. Nor mine, however since you don't seem to have what it takes to put your name behind your words, they may as well be penned by Ton Clancy. Nor am I stupid enough to put my name or call in front of convicted felony stalkers such as W4AMP. To the best of my knowledge, he's not a resident of this group. Moreover, despite the childish whinings of KB9RQZ, there's not a person here who's been in 1 seconds worth of danger due to "stalkers". It's a lame excuse for not having any conviction. I have been licensed since I was 16, which makes my license term in excess of 40 years now. Congratulations. I've also published articles in several radio magazines, including a cover article featured in Ham Radio Magazine. Oh geeze....NO WONDER you sound like Lennie! And no wonder "Ham Radio" is a footnote in Amateur Radio rather than an active part of it! hat. And as for applicance operators, who built YOUR computer...?!?! I contributed to its operating system (Linux) and have been active in Linux development since 1992. Some of my software can be found in both the Red Hat Fedora and Slackware Linux distributions, to name two distros I've recently checked. You can also find my software on major distribution sites such as http://www.ibiblio.org. Well congratulations then. I am sure you're happy where you are. Tell me: What software have YOU written for YOUR computer lately? I haven't...but then I didn't suggest that I did! I was discussing Amateur RADIO. Now I have to terminate this "conversation." Getting into a ####ing contest wasn't my original intent, but you've drawn me partially into one, and now I must extract myself from it. If you still think I'm bloviating, so be it. You ARE "bloviating". I've pointed out in each and every post where I was discussing the crossband REPEATER and you keep trying to discuss something else. The ONLY Amateur Radio voice repeater on the ISS is the CROSSBAND one. And a "####ing contest" certainly WAS your objective when you found it necessary to "answer" an inquiry with answers that were, in their very nature, confrontational and NOT within the parameters of the initial inquiry. I'm outta here. Don't let the door...well...you know... AMF. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: cut Nor am I stupid enough to put my name or call in front of convicted felony stalkers such as W4AMP. To the best of my knowledge, he's not a resident of this group. Moreover, despite the childish whinings of KB9RQZ, there's not a person here who's been in 1 seconds worth of danger due to "stalkers". more attcks amore **** cut And a "####ing contest" certainly WAS your objective when you found it necessary to "answer" an inquiry with answers that were, in their very nature, confrontational and NOT within the parameters of the initial inquiry. aginai with micron thin skin I'm outta here. Don't let the door...well...you know... yea exactly what you want to run ANYBODY that does bow to your will off here AMF. Steve, K4YZ |
Here's An Interesting OPERATING Question for RRAPers
nobodys old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut Nor am I stupid enough to put my name or call in front of convicted felony stalkers such as W4AMP. To the best of my knowledge, he's not a resident of this group. Moreover, despite the childish whinings of KB9RQZ, there's not a person here who's been in 1 seconds worth of danger due to "stalkers". more attcks amore #### More profanity from a mentally challenged, funtionally illiterate idiot. And a "####ing contest" certainly WAS your objective when you found it necessary to "answer" an inquiry with answers that were, in their very nature, confrontational and NOT within the parameters of the initial inquiry. aginai with micron thin skin "aginai"...?!?!? I'm outta here. Don't let the door...well...you know... yea exactly what you want to run ANYBODY that does bow to your will off here It's not my "will", Markie. "Larry", despite his self-proclaimed expertise, knowledge, and experience doesn't seem to understand what the term "crossband" means as it pertains to Amateur Radio application. He came in purporting to "know a better way", yet obviously didn't know what he was talking about. He offered to leave and I suggested he duck that swinging door. Steve, K4YZ |
more shit more lies from steve
On 31 Jan 2006 06:17:20 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote: more forgery more **** K4YZ wrote: cut Nor am I stupid enough to put my name or call in front of convicted felony stalkers such as W4AMP. To the best of my knowledge, he's not a resident of this group. Moreover, despite the childish whinings of KB9RQZ, there's not a person here who's been in 1 seconds worth of danger due to "stalkers". more attcks amore **** More profanity from a mentally challenged, funtionally illiterate idiot. I am better off that you which isn't sayoing much And a "####ing contest" certainly WAS your objective when you found it necessary to "answer" an inquiry with answers that were, in their very nature, confrontational and NOT within the parameters of the initial inquiry. aginai with micron thin skin "aginai"...?!?!? again yes your micron thin skin is a legend I'm outta here. Don't let the door...well...you know... yea exactly what you want to run ANYBODY that does bow to your will off here It's not my "will", Markie. yes it is "Larry", despite his self-proclaimed expertise, knowledge, and experience doesn't seem to understand what the term "crossband" means as it pertains to Amateur Radio application. no he simply uses the terms slightly differently than you want him to and you can stand no varriation from anybody He came in purporting to "know a better way", yet obviously didn't know what he was talking about. no you a lying again He offered to leave and I suggested he duck that swinging door. more of you attack attack **** that you have been pulling for years Steve, K4YZ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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K4YZ wrote: wrote: cut More profanity from a mentally challenged, funtionally illiterate idiot. I am better off that you No you're not. Not when you have to keep depending on profanity to "make your point". I am better than you I don't lie without a reason like you just did I chose to use vulgarity I don't have to OTOH the vulgarity does serve to bring your hypocrasy into sharper focus Unlike you I am not afraid of word which isn't sayoing much learn to spell you own titles first And a "####ing contest" certainly WAS your objective when you found it necessary to "answer" an inquiry with answers that were, in their very nature, confrontational and NOT within the parameters of the initial inquiry. aginai with micron thin skin "aginai"...?!?!? again yes your micron thin skin is a legend What micron thin skin? yours Mine's no-more-no less than any other caucasion male in my age bracket. yes it is it is thin esty online skin I have ever seen its only rival is Dave I'm outta here. Don't let the door...well...you know... yea exactly what you want to run ANYBODY that does bow to your will off here It's not my "will", Markie. yes it is No it's not. yes it is "Larry" engaged himself on his own volition. I didn't bring him in here. so? cut the diverationary rant he dares to phrase thing differently than you liked and you flamed him for it "Larry", despite his self-proclaimed expertise, knowledge, and experience doesn't seem to understand what the term "crossband" means as it pertains to Amateur Radio application. no he simply uses the terms slightly differently than you want him to and you can stand no varriation from anybody It's not my terms. It's the industry's. there is no industry cuting divertion He came in purporting to "know a better way", yet obviously didn't know what he was talking about. no you a lying again Nope. yes he never said anything about a better way to contact the ISS cut the divertion technique I should have known better. you should have known and had better manners but you have never displayed manners on this forum He offered to leave and I suggested he duck that swinging door. more of you attack attack **** that you have been pulling for years Nope. More of YOUR "micron thin" skin, FatBoy. nah but back to name calling Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: aginai with micron thin skin "aginai"...?!?!? I think he soft-stroked the "v" key. |
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