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N9OGL April 23rd 06 06:07 AM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 
Court of Appeals

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT

Argued October 31, 2005 Decided March 27, 2006

No. 05-1224

Manifest Broadcast Company, Appellant

v.

Federal Communications Commission, Appellee

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Consolidated with No. 05-1225

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Appeals from Orders of the Federal Communications Commission

________

Carter G. Phillips argued the cause for appellant, with whom Mark D.
Schneider, Katherine L. Adams, Gary D. Mitchell, and Charles J. Sennet
were on the briefs.

David P. Archambault, Associate General Counsel, Federal Communications
Commission, argued the cause for appellee, with whom Joseph M.
McLeonard, General Counsel at the time the brief was filed, and E.
Samson Peck, Jr., Counsel, were on the brief.

John F. Sturm, Richard E. Wiley, James R. Bayes, James J. Popham, Henry
L. Baumann, and Jack N. Goodman were on the brief for amici curiae
Association of Local Television Stations, Inc., et al.

Befo Ginsburg, Rogers, and Garland, Circuit Judges.

Opinion for the Court filed by Circuit Judge Garland.

------------------------------------------

Garland, Circuit Judge: Appellant challenges the Federal Communication
Commission's refusal to grant it a license renewal, or at least a
temporary waiver pending the outcome of future rulemaking, of its red
light rule. The Commission's order is denied. Manifest's petition for
review in No. 05-1225 is affirmed, and the portion of its appeal for
reconsideration in 1225 is affirmed. The Commission is Ordered to
review and amend its debt collection procedures.

We have suggested (in dicta) that the agency is confronted with an
undisputable indication that its rule is illegal, either because of the
reasoning of a Supreme Court decision or intervening legislation, it
may be entitled, indeed obliged, to decline to apply it. American Tel.
& Tel. Co. v. FCC (AT&T), 978 F.2d 727, 733 (D.C. Cir. 2004).(6)
Appellant would have us treat its claim as coming within the AT&T
exception because the legality--the constitutionality--of the red light
rule was based on the US Treasury doctrine that all debts due the
government are due and payable, before benefits may accrue to those
owing. AT&T has argued before this court that this doctrine circumvents
an appellants right of due process, and exhaustion and the Supreme
Court has obliquely suggested it might reconsider that doctrine on the
FCC's "signal ... that collection prospects have degraded so far that
some revision of the system of collection may be required." FCC v.
League of Broadcast Affiliates, 432 U.S. 366, 377 n.11 (2004). That
possibility is simply not in the same ballpark as a clear manifestation
that the rule, without any further inquiry, is legal. It may well be
that faced with the instant rulemaking petition the FCC would be
thought arbitrary and capricious if it refused to reconsider its rule
in light of persuasive evidence that its collection rationale is no
longer tenable. See American Speech Protection Ass'n v. Fielding, 811
F.2d 1 (D.C. Cir. 2004); WHT, Inc. v. FCC, 654 F.2d 803 (D.C. Cir.
2004); Heller v. FCC, 608 F.2d 954 (D.C. Cir. 2004) (per curiam).(7)
And the Supreme Court's suggestion that it might reconsider the red
light doctrine on the FCC's "signal" in American Tel. & Tel. Co.
imposes an implicit obligation on the Commission. Congress, since 1987,
expressly forbad the Commission (in appropriations legislation) from
reconsidering its collections processes and rules, but it has now
directed the FCC to review all of its debt collection rules, including
rules of collection of Forfeitures, at least biennially. See
Telecommunications Act of 1996, Pub. L. No 104-104, 202(h), 110 Stat.
56, 111-12 (1996). Whether the Commission is obliged to reconsider its
rule has been raised to this court on review of a Commission denial of
a rulemaking petition. Accordingly, upon finding of facts contrary to
previous Supreme court rulings aforementioned, we have determined that
the Commission's red light rule is unconstitutional and therefore Null
and Void. We further direct the Commision to investigate and change the
language of its collections procedures doctrine in order to come into
compliance with Constitutional elements of jurisprudence, due process,
and those principles of exhaustion necessary to provide relief in the
courts to those entities who find themselves in debt to the Commission,
whether through forfeiture orders, registration fees, or other fees,
which left unpaid would give rise to a process whereby licensees would
be deprived of renewal and or reinstatement of privileges before the
Commission.

So Ordered.


Morris April 23rd 06 06:43 AM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 
N9OGL, fellow hams,

This is a remarkable case but it doesn't support your title in the
least. The red light rule connects with Baxter's license renewal.
Before the decision, presumably if he didn't pay the FO, the red light
rule on his license renewal would kick in and he'd be effectively
bounced.

This case is significant, no doubt. While the NAL and FO remain
unaffected, the red light rule is void, meaning until the FCC comes up
with a viable collection scheme through the rule making process,
licensee K1MAN remains by the skin of his teeth.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


[email protected] April 24th 06 06:17 AM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 
Of course they could just hold the hearing and reject the renewal on
"enforcement" grounds. No need to invoke the "Red Light Rule" if it has
been really struck down by this decision. I would wager that once the
FO is final (which is in a few days unless appealed) that would be
justification enough to reject the application and make it stick.

That would land them in court for sure, but they are headed there
anyway so why not? Baxter could save some money and argue the whole
shootin match at once, in one trip to DC. All they would have to do is
prove one of the "enforcement" issues in the FO and the license is
history. Seems likely to me that they will get at least one of the
issues to stick if they have two witnesses like they claim in the NAL
and FO.

I'm still trying to confirm the order that N9OGL posted here
independently, but if it's valid, it sure seems to put the "red light
rule" on ice at just the right time to make this interesting. (Got to
get a PACER account set up so I can look at the DC Circuit's issued
orders and such).

KC4UAI


Bob Sherin, W4ASX April 24th 06 08:27 AM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 
KC4UAI,

Great legal thinking. You're right; they needn't rely on the red light
rule to bounce Baxter. Thanks. They sure have much more than enough
to bounce him. He's done everything to shoot himself in the foot.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


an old freind April 25th 06 01:40 AM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 
interesting development


[email protected] April 25th 06 01:05 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

raped by an old freind wrote:
interesting development


So would be your obituary.


[email protected] April 26th 06 05:13 AM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

wrote:
raped by an old freind wrote:
interesting development


So would be your obituary.


do hold your breath waiting for it

gte help wismen


[email protected] April 26th 06 01:58 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

wrote:
wrote:
raped by an old freind wrote:
interesting development


So would be your obituary.


do hold your breath waiting for it


Do hold yours, your breath smells like your she male wife's dick after
she pulled out of your asshole again.


[email protected] April 26th 06 02:42 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
raped by an old freind wrote:
interesting development

So would be your obituary.

do hold your breath waiting for it


Do hold yours, your breath smells like your she male wife's dick after
she pulled out of your asshole again.


more


More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.


an old freind April 26th 06 02:57 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:


more


More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.


nope still more i guess you have believing steve again alwasy a foolish
move

get help


Not Cocksucker Lloyd April 26th 06 03:04 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

ass****ed by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:


more


More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.


nope still more i guess you have believing steve again


You claimed I was Steve. You are such a dumbass, Marky, no wonder you
have to live with your bedridden daddy.


an Old friend April 26th 06 05:07 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
ass****ed by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:


more

More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.


nope still more i guess you have believing steve again


You claimed I was Steve.

no I said i would call you steve roger learn to read

get ehelp.


[email protected] April 27th 06 01:08 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

raped by an Old friend wrote:
Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
ass****ed by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

more

More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.

nope still more i guess you have believing steve again


You claimed I was Steve.

no I said i would call you steve


You refereed to me as Steve. It's in Google's archives of your posts,
stupid.

roger learn to read


I'm not Roger, either, dumbass.

get


Get a clue.


an old freind April 27th 06 03:27 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

wrote:
raped by an Old friend wrote:
Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
ass****ed by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

more

More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.

nope still more i guess you have believing steve again

You claimed I was Steve.

no I said i would call you steve


You refereed to me as Steve. It's in Google's archives of your posts,
stupid.

sure did so?
get help


Billy Smith April 27th 06 05:01 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 
wrote:

raped by an Old friend wrote:

Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:

ass****ed by an old freind wrote:

wrote:

an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:

wrote:

wrote:

more

More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.

nope still more i guess you have believing steve again

You claimed I was Steve.


no I said i would call you steve



You refereed to me as Steve. It's in Google's archives of your posts,
stupid.


roger learn to read



I'm not Roger, either, dumbass.


get



Get a clue.


Another lie, if you weren't Roger then how and why would you claim that
when Heil and his wife came to pay you a visit, you weren't there. Of
course, you seemed to know that someone else was there or at least claim
so. Not only that but how would you have known Heil had shown up unless
someone else was there or you were hiding behind the curtains again.
What a puss and a liar. Explain that to us Scheissman. Not to mention
that MSN account that you have. Explain to us how you know so much about
Wiseman's life yet aren't him. Including things that were brought up in
Usenet years ago. By the way, what is Wisemans degree allegedly in. Can
you tell us that one.

[email protected] April 28th 06 12:48 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

sodomized by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
raped by an Old friend wrote:
Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
ass****ed by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

more

More truth, since you married a shemale, you perverted child molester.

nope still more i guess you have believing steve again

You claimed I was Steve.
no I said i would call you steve


You refereed to me as Steve. It's in Google's archives of your posts,
stupid.

sure did so?


BWHAHAHAHAHA Markie admits his obsession with Steve. But Marky isn't
unfamiliar with man-love. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


an old freind April 28th 06 04:26 PM

K1MAN'S NAL AND FO SHOULD BE NOW A VOID
 

wrote:
sodomized by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
raped by an Old friend wrote:
Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
ass****ed by an old freind wrote:
wrote:
an old freid to some a nightmare to steve wrote:
wrote:
wrote:


You refereed to me as Steve. It's in Google's archives of your posts,
stupid.

sure did so?


BWHAHAHAHAHA Markie admits his obsession with Steve.

where?
But Marky isn't
unfamiliar with man-love.

and sex has nothing to do with Steve Robeson (indeed i suspect that is
steve problem that he needs to get liad by somebody)
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


get help

and funny you clami no one can read my post and that you can

that mean one of 2 things 1 you are lying or 2 that you are in fact no
one (or maybe both are true



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