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Steveo wrote:
"DrDeath" wrote:
-snipper-
Mark chooses to sit on
his ass sucking the entitlement system dry and contributing nothing to
society, while this person decided to make the best of his what God gave
him and he contributes to the same entitlement system that Mark chooses
to deplete.

Testify! That asswipe is too dumb to come in out of the rain. He's best
left ignored.
yet funny you can't do that neither of you

you go on and on about me and yet you insist you are ignoring me?

get help

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Cecil Moore wrote:
Steveo wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Can you dunk a basketball? If not, get back to us when you can.

I didn't know that was the hitch..can you still dunk?

If I don my knee braces, I still can. Can you?

The point is that some things are possible for each
individual and other things are impossible. Anybody
who can't dunk a basketball or pass a MENSA exam should
know how a person feels when they can't learn Morse code.
Cecil as good as it is your analogy still fails thanks to the fact that
if I can drunk (and I have no idea wether I can or not) it only means
something In Basketball. now if one inabilty to duck a basketball
barred them from all sports then you rise closer to the level of what
the code test is in the ARS
I personally think it would improve the ARS to only allow
MENSA engineers to be a member. How does that make you feel?

One of the brightest engineers I know, who has a commercial
FCC license and was the engineer at an AM broadcast station,
couldn't get past 5wpm so he was condemned to Tech class for
30 years. He knows more about radio than any ten other hams.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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an_old_friend wrote:
Cecil as good as it is your analogy still fails thanks to the fact that
if I can drunk (and I have no idea wether I can or not) it only means
something In Basketball. now if one inabilty to duck a basketball
barred them from all sports then you rise closer to the level of what
the code test is in the ARS

What you don't seem to realize is that dunking a basketball
and knowing Morse code are equally useful in the ARS.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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Cecil Moore wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Cecil as good as it is your analogy still fails thanks to the fact that
if I can drunk (and I have no idea wether I can or not) it only means
something In Basketball. now if one inabilty to duck a basketball
barred them from all sports then you rise closer to the level of what
the code test is in the ARS

What you don't seem to realize is that dunking a basketball
and knowing Morse code are equally useful in the ARS.
well If Could dunk a basket ball it would be useful in being able to
put up antennas and such, but I begin to see your point
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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Dee Flint wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. net...
Dee Flint wrote:

It took me 3 months of daily practice of an hour or more every day to get to
5wpm. That's over 90 hours.
try 5 years at 40minute per day, I frankly prefer not to do the math to
come up with the nuber of hours

and still NO sucess

now of course if you respond to me at all you blame my metohod or my
unkonwn to you teachers etc.

everything to avoid the central issue why is Code knowledge more
important than the rest of Ham radio combined

that is the issue of course I say more important since their question
in pools about cw that tip it from equal to the rest to more important

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David G. Nagel wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
David G. Nagel wrote:

Deaf persons have succussfully completed the code portion of the
testing at all levels of speed. Some use a vibrator attached to their
wrist. Others us a light. As mentioned elsewhere "never say never".


But that certainly doesn't satisfy the letter of the regulations.
To do that, they must "copy by ear".

No, it does satisfy the alternative methods of copying code as
specified by the FCC.

but never satified the treaty lang on the subject and therefore in
violation of international law

Dave WD9BDZ

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Why not get rid of the code? Really, why not make the written exam easier?
Just make exams covers enough to make sure some idiot doesn't kill
themselves or some body else.

Have only one class of license called "Amateur Radio License", with full
access to all bands. No matter what class a person holds now it would be
renewed as only "Amateur Radio License". Novices would be grandfathered
in.You couldn't get any worse class of ham than we do with the 20wpm
wonders.



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Steveo wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote:
He is his own biggest enemy.

Dee Flint, N8UZE

He's our tax dollars at work.
you do love elling that lie

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Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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Dee Flint, N8UZE


I don't think you insulted me -- it was whoever said I don't deserve a
license.

I beliveveSal I was being addressed

However, I do think it's a bit of a stretch to say that I can learn code
just because I can speak and understand words. You should see what my raw
typing looks like before I go back and fix it prior to hitting send (or
should I say "sned," which was what I typed the first time -- typically four
or five of those per line.) It's pretty bad.

indeed it likely looks much like what I send to the gruops on many
occasion (sine these folks were never satisfied with even my more
polished work)

I'm thinking of trying to learn the dits and dahs as strings of written dots
and dashes on paper. According to everything I've been told or exposed to,
that is not recommended.
The ARRL VEC will not premite that in code even as an accomdation
All the training says the goal is to perceive each
letter as a consolidated unit of sounds without any intermediate translation
steps. Well, since I'm positive that isn't working, particularly for
characters of four or more elements ... maybe a graphical alternative is in
order.

but it isn't allowed by the largest organiztion involed in code
testing, the erefusual of the Code testing side to enage in any
meanfull compromises is what finaly convinced to to aid and fight the
NoCode cause over some kind of compromise

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Dee Flint wrote:
"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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Typing and reading are visually based. So it makes sense that those are a
problem. But do you have difficulty saying words or hearing them? Just
because the typing is a problem, doesn't mean that the aural/spoken is a
problem. Reading/writing is a different activity than hearing/speaking and
uses different parts of the brain. While I can't imagine a graphical method
working for a dyslexic since it's visual, who can say for sure.
you claim to have certain knowledge of whta is and isn't possible

By the way, I still have problems with longer characters now and then or
combinations of certain characters. I had an awful time trying to copy a
call sign in a contest that began with SH5 (3 dots, 4 dots, 5 dots).
and you dare claim it must be doable by everyone else

you lies are becomeing tangled Dee

Dee Flint, N8UZE