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ken scharf December 28th 06 01:14 AM

DDS kit
 
I bought one of these kits to make use of a sample AD9851 chip I got
from Analog Devices a few years ago.

http://www.amqrp.org/kits/dds60/index.html

I knew it was hopeless to bread board something with this chip, but even
with a PC board soldering something with such close lead spacing is a
challenge (especially when you're past 50 with failing close in vision
and less than rock solid stable hands). Still I figured I'd give it a
try. Armed with the smallest soldering tip available for my Weller
PES51 soldering station, a good magnifier lamp AND a binocular
microscope I gave it a try to solder the chip to the board.

Well there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that it is
impossible to solder the chip by hand without creating solder bridges.
The good news is that I did a good enough job to get the chip 99%
perfectly centered on the solder pads, and you can remove the solder
bridges with solder wick without removing the chip from the PC board.

It would have been easier with thiner solder (I had .021" dia solder)
and a thiner soldering iron tip, but inspection with the microscope
shows no shorts, and it looks like all the pins are properly soldered.
Naked eye it doesn't look pretty but it should work.

Now to solder those chip caps and resistors! (They should be easier,
the AD9851 was the worst part to place with the tight spacing, all the
other parts have lead spacing at least twice as wide).


Dave Platt December 28th 06 01:20 AM

DDS kit
 
In article ,
ken scharf wrote:

Well there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that it is
impossible to solder the chip by hand without creating solder bridges.
The good news is that I did a good enough job to get the chip 99%
perfectly centered on the solder pads, and you can remove the solder
bridges with solder wick without removing the chip from the PC board.


I've seen people recommend this as the preferred hand-soldering
approach for dealing with small-pitch surface mount parts. Don't
worry about creating bridges... use a bit of liquid flux on the pins,
get a nice blob of fresh solder onto the tip of the iron, and then
just gently drag the molten solder-ball along the pins and get them
soldered to the traces. Then, go back over it with solder-wick and a
bit more liquid flux, and wick away the excess.

--
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I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

ken scharf December 28th 06 02:03 AM

DDS kit
 
Dave Platt wrote:
In article ,
ken scharf wrote:

Well there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that it is
impossible to solder the chip by hand without creating solder bridges.
The good news is that I did a good enough job to get the chip 99%
perfectly centered on the solder pads, and you can remove the solder
bridges with solder wick without removing the chip from the PC board.


I've seen people recommend this as the preferred hand-soldering
approach for dealing with small-pitch surface mount parts. Don't
worry about creating bridges... use a bit of liquid flux on the pins,
get a nice blob of fresh solder onto the tip of the iron, and then
just gently drag the molten solder-ball along the pins and get them
soldered to the traces. Then, go back over it with solder-wick and a
bit more liquid flux, and wick away the excess.

I did smear the pc lands under the chip with paste flux first. Not a
heavy coat, just lightly applied. It does help.
I've watched the technicians at work hand solder even finer pitch chips.
One young woman has very good close in eyesight and works without a
magnifier. She does have to clean up with the solder-wick, but makes
machine like perfect solder connections. (she makes it look EASY!)
Whats hard is doing an entire board in one sitting without getting a
visual version of writer's cramp. (eye strain)

Scott December 28th 06 01:39 PM

DDS kit
 
One thing you might try "next time"...

Pre-tin the PC pads by heating them with a heat gun, (being careful to
not overheat the board) and applying a very small amount of solder to
each pad. If you can get the IC pins all lined up with their PC board
pads, tack solder one of the corner pins (or one that is easiest to
solder without bridging). Use a toothpick (or some other device) to
apply gentle down pressure to the IC to keep it from moving. Use the
heat gun again (carefully) until the solder melts and the chip should
"settle" down into the molten solder. Keep the heat gun moving around
all pins to be sure all get down into molten solder. If you happen to
have a piece of copper clad PC board, you can practice by putting some
solder blobs on it and putting the leads of some sort of junkbox parts
on to the solder and heat it up with the heat gun, apply the down
pressure to the component and you can get the feel of how far the heat
gun should be away from the board and the length of time it takes to
melt the solder...

Scott
N0EDV

ken scharf wrote:
I bought one of these kits to make use of a sample AD9851 chip I got
from Analog Devices a few years ago.

http://www.amqrp.org/kits/dds60/index.html

I knew it was hopeless to bread board something with this chip, but even
with a PC board soldering something with such close lead spacing is a
challenge (especially when you're past 50 with failing close in vision
and less than rock solid stable hands). Still I figured I'd give it a
try. Armed with the smallest soldering tip available for my Weller
PES51 soldering station, a good magnifier lamp AND a binocular
microscope I gave it a try to solder the chip to the board.

Well there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that it is
impossible to solder the chip by hand without creating solder bridges.
The good news is that I did a good enough job to get the chip 99%
perfectly centered on the solder pads, and you can remove the solder
bridges with solder wick without removing the chip from the PC board.

It would have been easier with thiner solder (I had .021" dia solder)
and a thiner soldering iron tip, but inspection with the microscope
shows no shorts, and it looks like all the pins are properly soldered.
Naked eye it doesn't look pretty but it should work.

Now to solder those chip caps and resistors! (They should be easier,
the AD9851 was the worst part to place with the tight spacing, all the
other parts have lead spacing at least twice as wide).


Ian White GM3SEK December 28th 06 04:34 PM

DDS kit
 
ken scharf wrote:


Now to solder those chip caps and resistors! (They should be easier,
the AD9851 was the worst part to place with the tight spacing, all the
other parts have lead spacing at least twice as wide).

It's MUCH easier to begin with the easy parts! Start with the largest
chip caps and resistors, continue with the rest of the simple passives,
and then the largest ICs (largest pin spacing).

Finally, when you've honed your SMD skills, solder the large ICs with
the small pin spacings.

And give up the industrial-strength coffee for the duration :-)


--
73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

ken scharf December 28th 06 06:53 PM

DDS kit
 
Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
ken scharf wrote:


Now to solder those chip caps and resistors! (They should be easier,
the AD9851 was the worst part to place with the tight spacing, all the
other parts have lead spacing at least twice as wide).

It's MUCH easier to begin with the easy parts! Start with the largest
chip caps and resistors, continue with the rest of the simple passives,
and then the largest ICs (largest pin spacing).

Finally, when you've honed your SMD skills, solder the large ICs with
the small pin spacings.

And give up the industrial-strength coffee for the duration :-)


For some reason the instructions that came with the DDS-60 kit have you
solder all the ic's on first, then the resistors and caps.

After thinking I had done a good job on the AD9851 I put the board under
my binocular microscope for a close in look. I saw what looked like
microscopic solder bridges between the chip leads. I was able to remove
these with a stiff piece of paper slid between the chip leads. I still
see strange 'hair like' structures all over the board under the
microscope. I may be seeing dust, bits of flux, who knows! The
microscopic world is strange, especially in 3D.

Ben Jackson December 28th 06 09:43 PM

DDS kit
 
On 2006-12-28, ken scharf wrote:
I've watched the technicians at work hand solder even finer pitch chips.
One young woman has very good close in eyesight and works without a
magnifier. She does have to clean up with the solder-wick, but makes
machine like perfect solder connections. (she makes it look EASY!)
Whats hard is doing an entire board in one sitting without getting a
visual version of writer's cramp. (eye strain)


After you've done it enough under a microscope you learn what is going
to happen and you can do a lot of it without even being able to see it,
by timing and feel. Like you said in another post, there's also the
part where you get used to how disgusting any solder joint looks under
sufficient magnification...

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

http://www.ben.com/

Jim December 29th 06 07:10 AM

DDS kit
 
Personally, I'd do the DDS chip first, before the resistors and
capacitors. One of the tricks I use is to clean the IC pins with rubbing
Alcohol after soldering and removing shorts.

Then, I apply a hot air gun, SLOWLY bringing the temperature up on the
pins of the IC. I try to get to barely melting the solder, but not burning
the main board. A slow application allows the IC to heat up gradually.

This tends to remove the hairline solder bridges and clean up between the
pins of the IC. Since the main DDS chip is the only part on the board, I
don't have to worry about heating up and blowing the resistors and
capacitors clean off the board !!!

I can, and have, used this same method on a completely assembled board,
but I have to pay close attention to the small parts, the tend to want to
blow away. In that case, I build a heat shield with tin foil and I press
it down on the board all around the IC I want to solder flow and that
usually keeps the other parts on the board where I want them.


This all takes a delicate touch, it's pretty easy to get things too hot,
but it does provide nice and clean solder joints.


Jim Pennell
N6BIU


--

23:10 Pacific Time Zone
Dec 28 2006

International Time
07:10 UTC
29.12.2006



Dan Andersson December 29th 06 08:37 PM

DDS kit
 
ken scharf wrote:

I bought one of these kits to make use of a sample AD9851 chip I got
from Analog Devices a few years ago.

http://www.amqrp.org/kits/dds60/index.html

I knew it was hopeless to bread board something with this chip, but even
with a PC board soldering something with such close lead spacing is a
challenge (especially when you're past 50 with failing close in vision
and less than rock solid stable hands). Still I figured I'd give it a
try. Armed with the smallest soldering tip available for my Weller
PES51 soldering station, a good magnifier lamp AND a binocular
microscope I gave it a try to solder the chip to the board.

Well there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that it is
impossible to solder the chip by hand without creating solder bridges.
The good news is that I did a good enough job to get the chip 99%
perfectly centered on the solder pads, and you can remove the solder
bridges with solder wick without removing the chip from the PC board.

It would have been easier with thiner solder (I had .021" dia solder)
and a thiner soldering iron tip, but inspection with the microscope
shows no shorts, and it looks like all the pins are properly soldered.
Naked eye it doesn't look pretty but it should work.

Now to solder those chip caps and resistors! (They should be easier,
the AD9851 was the worst part to place with the tight spacing, all the
other parts have lead spacing at least twice as wide).



Be sure to more or less "drown" the pins to be soldered with flux. If you
get solder bridges, you probably have to little flux applied - really slob
the flux on the pins. When you think you have enough of flux, add more...

Any bridges are corrected with solder wick.

The AD98xx can be soldered with a 0.5mm ceramic tip. Get one of these cheap
( 10$ ) magnifying visors, especially if you are half blind as I am...

The AD9851 is one of the easiest SMD IC's to solder as there are pins only
on two sides.

Besides... We have been using SMD's since the early eighties now so stop
whinging over it, adapt! They wont go away and they actually improve most
RF designs!

//Dan, M0DFI

wackyvorlon December 29th 06 11:13 PM

DDS kit
 


On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, Dan Andersson wrote:

Besides... We have been using SMD's since the early eighties now so stop
whinging over it, adapt! They wont go away and they actually improve most
RF designs!

I've seen some suggestions go around that are very similar to hot-air
rework. I just wanted to mention that SparkFun electronics sells some
rework stations cheaply, and has useful tutorials on soldering SMD
parts. Their site: http://www.sparkfun.com



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