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[email protected] December 8th 08 05:07 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771

73,
Mike, KK6GM

raypsi December 11th 08 08:58 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 8, 12:07*pm, wrote:
I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. *Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). *So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771

73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM

I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.

73 OM
n8zu

[email protected] December 12th 08 06:02 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 11, 3:58*pm, raypsi wrote:
On Dec 8, 12:07*pm, wrote:

I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. *Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). *So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771


73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM

I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and *tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.

73 OM
n8zu


That's pretty impressive, fitting that on a 5x7 chassis!

Mike

Theo December 12th 08 11:09 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 11, 3:58 pm, raypsi wrote:
On Dec 8, 12:07 pm, wrote:

I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771


73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM

I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.

73 OM
n8zu


That's pretty impressive, fitting that on a 5x7 chassis!

(Actually 5ft x 7ft !) ;-)



[email protected] December 13th 08 06:49 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 12, 6:09*pm, "Theo" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Dec 11, 3:58 pm, raypsi wrote:





On Dec 8, 12:07 pm, wrote:


I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771


73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM


I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.


73 OM
n8zu


That's pretty impressive, fitting that on a 5x7 chassis!

(Actually 5ft x 7ft !) *;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You mean kinda like this?

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/SCAN0006.jpg

JIMMIE[_2_] December 13th 08 11:38 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 13, 1:49*pm, wrote:
On Dec 12, 6:09*pm, "Theo" wrote:



wrote in message


....
On Dec 11, 3:58 pm, raypsi wrote:


On Dec 8, 12:07 pm, wrote:


I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771


73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM


I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.


73 OM
n8zu


That's pretty impressive, fitting that on a 5x7 chassis!


(Actually 5ft x 7ft !) *;-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You mean kinda like this?

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/SCAN0006.jpg


My neighbor gave me one of those 5 tube AM BCB radio kits back when I
was a kid. It was part of an electronics correspondence course he was
taking. The idea was to put it together breadboard fashion on the
schematic then when you got it working move it to the chassis. I
thought it was cool just keeping it on the breadboard and hauled it
around for years until it finally got stolen out of storage about 20
years ago. Over the years I had tested several mods on it. HF
converters, adding another IF stage, a BFO, Q multiplier and reworked
the series filament string for parallel operation. I'm sure if it was
still around I would still be tinkering with it.


Jimmie

ken scharf December 14th 08 02:29 AM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
raypsi wrote:
On Dec 8, 12:07 pm, wrote:
I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771

73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM

I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.

73 OM
n8zu

I didn't build a transmitter when I got my Novice License (in my teens),
though I did start collecting parts to do so. I was going to build a
rig using a 6GK6 oscillator and an 807 final. But, on Washington's
birthday I went down to Harrison's in NYC for their big yearly sale.
They had a stack of Elmac AF67 transmitters for about $15 each, so I got
one. I had to build a power supply for it though. This I did using a
junk salvaged from old TV sets found curbside on garbage pick up days.

I used to ride around the neighborhood on my bicycle looking for thrown
out TV sets. I carried enough tools with me to pull a chassis out of a
cabinet and lug it home. Then I'd tear it apart in the basement and
keep the goodies.

Seems all of those AF67's had the same problem, burned out modulation
transformers. But they worked great on CW with crystal control. Some
of them also had bad VFO's.

Years later when my brother got his novice license we found him a used
Lafayette HA350 receiver and I built him a two tube transmitter.
Actually I used parts from my now defunct AF67 stuffed into a large
minibox as a chassis. It used the 6GK6 (from the junk box) and a 6146
in the final (from the AF67). I wonder if he still has that transmitter
lost in his basement? I might want it (and the HA350) back.

Rick December 16th 08 02:58 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
A few years ago someone gave me a box of tube sockets and some 5763s. I
always wondered if they were any good. So I built up a sloppy little
oscillator, running on 7038 and 22 out of 23 of them oscillated. It takes
17 seconds for a filament to warm up and the circuit to start putting out
power.
Ok so what next? I notice in the tube manual, ARRL handbook 1966, that it
has 13 watts plate dissipation. Wow that seems like a lot for a little 9
pin tube. So I built another stage next to the oscillator and a little pi
network output and drove the heck out of it. Only got 3 watts. Then double
checked the voltages since I was running on a variac and lo and behold I
only had 5 volts on the filament so cranked her up where she should be and
now getting 9 watts into 50 ohms.
Then checked the great W8JI website and see where he put some shaping into
his DX60 to clean up the clicks so I looked at my output with a scope with
my keyer banging away at the thing and ye Gads, a square wave. So now
working on values of a grid block keyer circuit to round off the edges.
Fun stuff.
Added a socket for an 807. Wow, got plenty of drive !! 55 watts out with
600 volts on the plate. 2nd harmonic 45 db down, not too bad. Total money
expended to date - $zero.
Anyone like to do something similar? If you need a 5763 and socket just let
me know. All I ask is you to really use it, not just throw it in the drawer
for some day in the future.
Oh by the way. This is just posted to homebrew, don't need to cross post it
to the other newsgroups, too much of that going on. Pick the group that it
belongs in and they will find it if they are interested.
73,
Rick K2XT



Mike Silva December 17th 08 08:58 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 16, 9:58*am, "Rick" wrote:
A few years ago someone gave me a box of tube sockets and some 5763s. *I
always wondered if they were any good. *So I built up a sloppy little
oscillator, running on 7038 and 22 out of 23 of them oscillated. *It takes
17 seconds for a filament to warm up and the circuit to start putting out
power.
Ok so what next? *I notice in the tube manual, ARRL handbook 1966, that it
has 13 watts plate dissipation. *Wow that seems like a lot for a little 9
pin tube. *So I built another stage next to the oscillator and a little pi
network output and drove the heck out of it. *Only got 3 watts. *Then double
checked the voltages since I was running on a variac and lo and behold I
only had 5 volts on the filament so cranked her up where she should be and
now getting 9 watts into 50 ohms.
Then checked the great W8JI website and see where he put some shaping into
his DX60 to clean up the clicks so I looked at my output with a scope with
my keyer banging away at the thing and ye Gads, a square wave. *So now
working on values of a grid block keyer circuit to round off the edges.
Fun stuff.
Added a socket for an 807. *Wow, got plenty of drive !! 55 watts out with
600 volts on the plate. *2nd harmonic 45 db down, not too bad. *Total money
expended to date - $zero.
Anyone like to do something similar? *If you need a 5763 and socket just let
me know. *All I ask is you to really use it, not just throw it in the drawer
for some day in the future.
Oh by the way. *This is just posted to homebrew, don't need to cross post it
to the other newsgroups, too much of that going on. *Pick the group that it
belongs in and they will find it if they are interested.
73,
Rick *K2XT


About 5 or 6 years ago I think the government must have dumped its
supply of 5763s since they started showing up by the thousands, 1980s
manufacture. Since as a kid I had seen lots of articles that used
them, I quickly bought Too Many. I think everybody I know has at
least 25 and often 100. Since then I've donated some and sold some
and used some. It's a very nice little tube, and should last forever
(+/-) in oscillator or QRP service.

Very interesting to hear how much difference the lower heater voltage
made. It's tempting these days to just make up a 6.3VDC regulator and
be done with it.

73,
Mike, KK6GM

ken scharf December 20th 08 10:00 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
Mike Silva wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:58 am, "Rick" wrote:
A few years ago someone gave me a box of tube sockets and some 5763s. I
always wondered if they were any good. So I built up a sloppy little
oscillator, running on 7038 and 22 out of 23 of them oscillated. It takes
17 seconds for a filament to warm up and the circuit to start putting out
power.
Ok so what next? I notice in the tube manual, ARRL handbook 1966, that it
has 13 watts plate dissipation. Wow that seems like a lot for a little 9
pin tube. So I built another stage next to the oscillator and a little pi
network output and drove the heck out of it. Only got 3 watts. Then double
checked the voltages since I was running on a variac and lo and behold I
only had 5 volts on the filament so cranked her up where she should be and
now getting 9 watts into 50 ohms.
Then checked the great W8JI website and see where he put some shaping into
his DX60 to clean up the clicks so I looked at my output with a scope with
my keyer banging away at the thing and ye Gads, a square wave. So now
working on values of a grid block keyer circuit to round off the edges.
Fun stuff.
Added a socket for an 807. Wow, got plenty of drive !! 55 watts out with
600 volts on the plate. 2nd harmonic 45 db down, not too bad. Total money
expended to date - $zero.
Anyone like to do something similar? If you need a 5763 and socket just let
me know. All I ask is you to really use it, not just throw it in the drawer
for some day in the future.
Oh by the way. This is just posted to homebrew, don't need to cross post it
to the other newsgroups, too much of that going on. Pick the group that it
belongs in and they will find it if they are interested.
73,
Rick K2XT


About 5 or 6 years ago I think the government must have dumped its
supply of 5763s since they started showing up by the thousands, 1980s
manufacture. Since as a kid I had seen lots of articles that used
them, I quickly bought Too Many. I think everybody I know has at
least 25 and often 100. Since then I've donated some and sold some
and used some. It's a very nice little tube, and should last forever
(+/-) in oscillator or QRP service.

Very interesting to hear how much difference the lower heater voltage
made. It's tempting these days to just make up a 6.3VDC regulator and
be done with it.

73,
Mike, KK6GM

The 5763 seems to be an original design as opposed to a re-design of an
octal tube into a miniature tube format. I can't find any similar beam
power tubes with a 6.3v .75 amp heater in larger format.
It is amazing just how many miniature tubes are simply re-hashes of a
similar tube in a larger format.

For example, the 6AQ5 is a rehash of the 6V6. The 6BQ5 and 6GK6 are
rehashes of the 6F6 (which itself is a rehash of the 42 and 2A5, and
similar to the directly heated '47). The 6AK6 is a rehash of the 6G6G.
The 6CL6 is a rehash of the 6AG7. I could name many more, and I haven't
even considered the Lockal equalivants either.

Mike Silva December 21st 08 07:38 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 20, 5:00*pm, ken scharf wrote:
Mike Silva wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:58 am, "Rick" wrote:
A few years ago someone gave me a box of tube sockets and some 5763s. *I
always wondered if they were any good. *So I built up a sloppy little
oscillator, running on 7038 and 22 out of 23 of them oscillated. *It takes
17 seconds for a filament to warm up and the circuit to start putting out
power.
Ok so what next? *I notice in the tube manual, ARRL handbook 1966, that it
has 13 watts plate dissipation. *Wow that seems like a lot for a little 9
pin tube. *So I built another stage next to the oscillator and a little pi
network output and drove the heck out of it. *Only got 3 watts. *Then double
checked the voltages since I was running on a variac and lo and behold I
only had 5 volts on the filament so cranked her up where she should be and
now getting 9 watts into 50 ohms.
Then checked the great W8JI website and see where he put some shaping into
his DX60 to clean up the clicks so I looked at my output with a scope with
my keyer banging away at the thing and ye Gads, a square wave. *So now
working on values of a grid block keyer circuit to round off the edges..
Fun stuff.
Added a socket for an 807. *Wow, got plenty of drive !! 55 watts out with
600 volts on the plate. *2nd harmonic 45 db down, not too bad. *Total money
expended to date - $zero.
Anyone like to do something similar? *If you need a 5763 and socket just let
me know. *All I ask is you to really use it, not just throw it in the drawer
for some day in the future.
Oh by the way. *This is just posted to homebrew, don't need to cross post it
to the other newsgroups, too much of that going on. *Pick the group that it
belongs in and they will find it if they are interested.
73,
Rick *K2XT


About 5 or 6 years ago I think the government must have dumped its
supply of 5763s since they started showing up by the thousands, 1980s
manufacture. *Since as a kid I had seen lots of articles that used
them, I quickly bought Too Many. *I think everybody I know has at
least 25 and often 100. *Since then I've donated some and sold some
and used some. *It's a very nice little tube, and should last forever
(+/-) in oscillator or QRP service.


Very interesting to hear how much difference the lower heater voltage
made. *It's tempting these days to just make up a 6.3VDC regulator and
be done with it.


73,
Mike, KK6GM


The 5763 seems to be an original design as opposed to a re-design of an
octal tube into a miniature tube format. *I can't find any similar beam
power tubes with a 6.3v .75 amp heater in larger format.
It is amazing just how many miniature tubes are simply re-hashes of a
similar tube in a larger format.

For example, the 6AQ5 is a rehash of the 6V6. *The 6BQ5 and 6GK6 are
rehashes of the 6F6 (which itself is a rehash of the 42 and 2A5, and
similar to the directly heated '47). *The 6AK6 is a rehash of the 6G6G.
The 6CL6 is a rehash of the 6AG7. I could name many more, and I haven't
even considered the Lockal equalivants either.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You're right on both counts. The 5763 is an original design (at
least, I've never seen anything like it in octal), and most of the
first generation miniature tubes were direct or near-direct copies of
existing octal designs. Only later did the myriad tubes intended for
TV service appear, and to a much smaller degree, the hi-fi tubes.

73,
Mike, KK6GM

ken scharf December 22nd 08 11:52 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
Mike Silva wrote:
On Dec 20, 5:00 pm, ken scharf wrote:
Mike Silva wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:58 am, "Rick" wrote:
A few years ago someone gave me a box of tube sockets and some 5763s. I
always wondered if they were any good. So I built up a sloppy little
oscillator, running on 7038 and 22 out of 23 of them oscillated. It takes
17 seconds for a filament to warm up and the circuit to start putting out
power.
Ok so what next? I notice in the tube manual, ARRL handbook 1966, that it
has 13 watts plate dissipation. Wow that seems like a lot for a little 9
pin tube. So I built another stage next to the oscillator and a little pi
network output and drove the heck out of it. Only got 3 watts. Then double
checked the voltages since I was running on a variac and lo and behold I
only had 5 volts on the filament so cranked her up where she should be and
now getting 9 watts into 50 ohms.
Then checked the great W8JI website and see where he put some shaping into
his DX60 to clean up the clicks so I looked at my output with a scope with
my keyer banging away at the thing and ye Gads, a square wave. So now
working on values of a grid block keyer circuit to round off the edges.
Fun stuff.
Added a socket for an 807. Wow, got plenty of drive !! 55 watts out with
600 volts on the plate. 2nd harmonic 45 db down, not too bad. Total money
expended to date - $zero.
Anyone like to do something similar? If you need a 5763 and socket just let
me know. All I ask is you to really use it, not just throw it in the drawer
for some day in the future.
Oh by the way. This is just posted to homebrew, don't need to cross post it
to the other newsgroups, too much of that going on. Pick the group that it
belongs in and they will find it if they are interested.
73,
Rick K2XT
About 5 or 6 years ago I think the government must have dumped its
supply of 5763s since they started showing up by the thousands, 1980s
manufacture. Since as a kid I had seen lots of articles that used
them, I quickly bought Too Many. I think everybody I know has at
least 25 and often 100. Since then I've donated some and sold some
and used some. It's a very nice little tube, and should last forever
(+/-) in oscillator or QRP service.
Very interesting to hear how much difference the lower heater voltage
made. It's tempting these days to just make up a 6.3VDC regulator and
be done with it.
73,
Mike, KK6GM

The 5763 seems to be an original design as opposed to a re-design of an
octal tube into a miniature tube format. I can't find any similar beam
power tubes with a 6.3v .75 amp heater in larger format.
It is amazing just how many miniature tubes are simply re-hashes of a
similar tube in a larger format.

For example, the 6AQ5 is a rehash of the 6V6. The 6BQ5 and 6GK6 are
rehashes of the 6F6 (which itself is a rehash of the 42 and 2A5, and
similar to the directly heated '47). The 6AK6 is a rehash of the 6G6G.
The 6CL6 is a rehash of the 6AG7. I could name many more, and I haven't
even considered the Lockal equalivants either.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You're right on both counts. The 5763 is an original design (at
least, I've never seen anything like it in octal), and most of the
first generation miniature tubes were direct or near-direct copies of
existing octal designs. Only later did the myriad tubes intended for
TV service appear, and to a much smaller degree, the hi-fi tubes.

73,
Mike, KK6GM

Most of the 'HiFi' tubes were better build versions of existing tubes.
The improvements reduced hum by shielding G1 better from the heater, and
also reduced microphonics by simply building the tubes more rigid and
rugged ("like a brick s@#T house"). They were probably tested better
too, with the ones not making the grade re-branded with the part number
of the original lower grade type.

terryS December 27th 08 11:19 PM

FA: MOPA 2-Tube Transmitter Instant Junkbox parts assortment
 
On Dec 13, 3:49*pm, wrote:
On Dec 12, 6:09*pm, "Theo" wrote:





wrote in message


....
On Dec 11, 3:58 pm, raypsi wrote:


On Dec 8, 12:07 pm, wrote:


I had this idea a while back, to thin out my stuff in what I think is
a useful and interesting way. Along the way I ended up having to buy
a bunch of new stuff as well (e.g. the brand new tune and load
variable caps). So take a look - might be a fun way to spend some
winter evenings.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160303721771


73,
Mike, KK6GM


Hey OM


I should has learned to play the guitar. Instead I got into
electronics built my first xmitter in '67 using a 6BQ5 xtal osc and
6146A final.
Everything was hot. I used series twist lock caps in the ps, B&W coil,
with aligator clip adjust, multi elmac plate and tune caps, a tv set
power xformer, all that on a punched out 5x7x2 LMB chassis. Even the
Key was hot as I keyed the screen of the 6146A.


73 OM
n8zu


That's pretty impressive, fitting that on a 5x7 chassis!


(Actually 5ft x 7ft !) *;-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You mean kinda like this?

http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/p.../SCAN0006.jpg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey. Notice how everyone in that picture is wearing a tie? The guy on
the left is wearing a bow tie, I thnk? Proper dressing; these days we
are too sloppy; eh? Cheers.


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