"Jeefaw K. Effkay" wrote:
On 16/09/2014 17:49, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 9/16/2014 12:33 PM, Jeefaw K. Effkay wrote:
On 16/09/2014 16:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Ah, heck - don't make it so easy. A REAL HAM would mine and smelt his
own ore (using a garden trowel and blowtorch). He would create his own
insulating material from raw materials (bakelite would probably be
easiest), and finally shape and assemble the final product.

A real ham wouldn't make coaxial connectors.

A real ham would be using a link-coupled output from his PA, to a
balanced transmission line.

PS - don't feed the troll :-)


Why said they were coax connectors for a transmitter? I use various
types of connecters for many things. For instance, my Tektronix scope
has BNC connectors for the probes. And my rigs have connectors for the
microphones.

Real hams don't use microphones. They only use CW :-)

Plus I wouldn't use balanced line in the car.

OK - you win :-)

It's illegal to text while driving, but what about using a key?

--
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:


It's illegal to text while driving, but what about using a key?

On most cars, it's compulsory. If you don't turn it, the engine won't
start.


--
Chris
G4FZN

In message , Chris Kirby
writes
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:


It's illegal to text while driving, but what about using a key?

On most cars, it's compulsory. If you don't turn it, the engine won't
start.

There are stringent laws specifically relating to the use of phones in
vehicles. Unless the phone has a key, they won't apply. However, you
could still get got under other laws.


--
Ian

Chris Kirby wrote:
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:


It's illegal to text while driving, but what about using a key?

On most cars, it's compulsory. If you don't turn it, the engine won't
start.

My car doesn't start with a key, you push a button marked "START". The car
I learnt to drive in, a 1956 Ford Popular, also had a button marked
"START". This is called "progress", apparently.
I need a drink.

--
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.

On 19/09/2014 01:33, Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
Chris Kirby wrote:
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:


It's illegal to text while driving, but what about using a key?

On most cars, it's compulsory. If you don't turn it, the engine won't
start.

My car doesn't start with a key, you push a button marked "START". The car
I learnt to drive in, a 1956 Ford Popular, also had a button marked
"START". This is called "progress", apparently.
I need a drink.


I drive a lot of hire cars on business and the recent 'progress' means
that I often have to spend ages finding out how the maker of this
particular car has decided to implement things that have been a de-facto
standard such as keys: traditional keys, 'credit card' keys...
I had a key fob that I spent ages trying to find out how to get the key
to pop out before giving out and looking for the key hole only to find
that it was a proximity key that activates the system once you get in
the car.
.... or handbrakes, traditional lever, pull handle, push button,
automagic comfuser controlled intelligent parking brake....

I have to take a refresher course when I get in a new car now.

mumble grumble... getting old....

Andy

AndyW wrote:


I drive a lot of hire cars on business and the recent 'progress' means
that I often have to spend ages finding out how the maker of this
particular car has decided to implement things that have been a de-facto
standard such as keys: traditional keys, 'credit card' keys...
I had a key fob that I spent ages trying to find out how to get the key
to pop out before giving out and looking for the key hole only to find
that it was a proximity key that activates the system once you get in
the car.
... or handbrakes, traditional lever, pull handle, push button,
automagic comfuser controlled intelligent parking brake....

I have to take a refresher course when I get in a new car now.

mumble grumble... getting old....

Andy

I had a rental that used a proximity key. It was a fastback model and I
had left my keys in the back while removing some luggage. As I closed
the lid I thought 'Oh crap. I just locked my keys inside'. But the
auto-lock didn't click in because of the keys. What a relief.

-Bill

In message
-septembe
r.org, Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI writes
Chris Kirby wrote:
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:


It's illegal to text while driving, but what about using a key?

On most cars, it's compulsory. If you don't turn it, the engine won't
start.

My car doesn't start with a key, you push a button marked "START". The car
I learnt to drive in, a 1956 Ford Popular, also had a button marked
"START". This is called "progress", apparently.
I need a drink.

My 1953 Ford Prefect also had a button marked "START". IIRC, you had to
pull it (and I expect the Popular was the same). It therefore seems that
the one great technical leap forward is the change from PULL to PUSH. On
the other hand, I don't that think that there was any need for a starter
solenoid
--
Ian

On 19/09/14 10:33, Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
The car
I learnt to drive in, a 1956 Ford Popular, also had a button marked
"START".

My computer at work has one called "Start" but ironically I use it to
"stop" it.

In message , Stuart Longland
writes
On 19/09/14 10:33, Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
The car
I learnt to drive in, a 1956 Ford Popular, also had a button marked
"START".

My computer at work has one called "Start" but ironically I use it to
"stop" it.

Here, it's perfectly obvious that "Start" refers to starting the
procedure you need to carry out to stop it. [Doesn't it?]
--
Ian

On 19/09/14 10:00, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Stuart Longland
writes
On 19/09/14 10:33, Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
The car
I learnt to drive in, a 1956 Ford Popular, also had a button marked
"START".

My computer at work has one called "Start" but ironically I use it to
"stop" it.

Here, it's perfectly obvious that "Start" refers to starting the
procedure you need to carry out to stop it. [Doesn't it?]

To be fair, that was always a rather silly jibe at Windows.

The Start referred to starting the Menu, the fact that the process to
turn off the computer was in the Menu hardly needs the whole thing to be
renamed. If they had called it 'Menu', as some OS's do (eg the Cinnamon
Desktop on the Linux I'm using now), someone would have made a
joke about not wanting a meal.