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Leigh W3NLB ) writes:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:11:57 +0200, "Tom" wrote: Hello If anyone can recommend me a good book from which i will learn to construct oscillator that for example covers range 0-12 MHz. Thanks in advance! Tom 12 MHz is easy. 0 MHz is really difficult. 73 de Leigh W3NLB The workaround is to have a variable oscillator beating against a fixed oscillator. So you have your variable oscillator going from 30 to 42MHz (I just picked those out of my hat), a fixed oscillator running at 30 MHz, and a mixer fed with both oscillators. The output of the mixer will be 0 to 12MHz (plus some other things). Michael VE2BVW |
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![]() I need to get one of the MAX038EVKIT oscillator evaluation kits shown at the website below but can't check the price nor order it without being a logged-in member, and don't believe that would work out for a one piece hanm radio use purchase. Where/how can I just order a single unit? Dick Maxim has an enlightened purchasing policy and will sell at a small premium, 1 or 2 of anything in their product line direct. W4ZCB |
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![]() I need to get one of the MAX038EVKIT oscillator evaluation kits shown at the website below but can't check the price nor order it without being a logged-in member, and don't believe that would work out for a one piece hanm radio use purchase. Where/how can I just order a single unit? Dick Maxim has an enlightened purchasing policy and will sell at a small premium, 1 or 2 of anything in their product line direct. W4ZCB |
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![]() "Tom" wrote in message ... Hello If anyone can recommend me a good book from which i will learn to construct oscillator that for example covers range 0-12 MHz. A DDS chip like the Analog Devices AD9850 will give you something close to that. It won't quite go down to 0 MHz, though. You could just switch it off, of course. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller |
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![]() "Tom" wrote in message ... Hello If anyone can recommend me a good book from which i will learn to construct oscillator that for example covers range 0-12 MHz. A DDS chip like the Analog Devices AD9850 will give you something close to that. It won't quite go down to 0 MHz, though. You could just switch it off, of course. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:05:06 +0200, "Tom" wrote: If you read my original post again or at least the topic, it says 0-12 (not 0, 12) MHz. And that would mean something in the range between 0 and 12. I don't remember when and WHERE i said that i need 0 MHz oscilator. The only one who talks about 0 MHz osc is you. __________________________________________________ _______ Perhaps English is a second language for you, but when you say 0-12 that will be taken to mean those two frequencies and everything in between. -- Bill, W7TI And of course, even if such a full range oscillator was not intended by the original poster, I'd say there often is a big difference between oscillators in the KHz range and those in the MHz range. Obviously, the concept of an oscillator doesn't change, but the specific design does. You can use resistors and capacitors to set the frequency down near the audio range, and do your best to avoid coils down there due to their size, while once you get into radio frequencies, one tends to use coils for the frequency control element. Time after time, I see people asking questions about oscillators, and often they are coming to radio frequencies from an audio background. So they think in terms of just scaling some favorite audio oscillator up to radio frequencies, when a simpler solution would be to use an LC oscillator. Somewhere in this thread, the 8038's more recent spawn was mentioned. Obviously, it will work over that full range, but I'm suspicious about how good it will be at radio frequencies, as I would about any RC oscillator. It seems a stretch to expect it to work as well at 12MHz as at 10KHz. Michael VE2BVW |
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W7TI ) writes:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:05:06 +0200, "Tom" wrote: If you read my original post again or at least the topic, it says 0-12 (not 0, 12) MHz. And that would mean something in the range between 0 and 12. I don't remember when and WHERE i said that i need 0 MHz oscilator. The only one who talks about 0 MHz osc is you. __________________________________________________ _______ Perhaps English is a second language for you, but when you say 0-12 that will be taken to mean those two frequencies and everything in between. -- Bill, W7TI And of course, even if such a full range oscillator was not intended by the original poster, I'd say there often is a big difference between oscillators in the KHz range and those in the MHz range. Obviously, the concept of an oscillator doesn't change, but the specific design does. You can use resistors and capacitors to set the frequency down near the audio range, and do your best to avoid coils down there due to their size, while once you get into radio frequencies, one tends to use coils for the frequency control element. Time after time, I see people asking questions about oscillators, and often they are coming to radio frequencies from an audio background. So they think in terms of just scaling some favorite audio oscillator up to radio frequencies, when a simpler solution would be to use an LC oscillator. Somewhere in this thread, the 8038's more recent spawn was mentioned. Obviously, it will work over that full range, but I'm suspicious about how good it will be at radio frequencies, as I would about any RC oscillator. It seems a stretch to expect it to work as well at 12MHz as at 10KHz. Michael VE2BVW |
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Michael Black wrote:
Somewhere in this thread, the 8038's more recent spawn was mentioned. Obviously, it will work over that full range, but I'm suspicious about how good it will be at radio frequencies, as I would about any RC oscillator. It seems a stretch to expect it to work as well at 12MHz as at 10KHz. I agree. But on the other hand if you controll this 8038 with another PLL synthesizer, i think the overall performance should be ok from 10 kHz to 12 MHz. I think that is the way how most of "pro stuff" works. |
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Michael Black wrote:
Somewhere in this thread, the 8038's more recent spawn was mentioned. Obviously, it will work over that full range, but I'm suspicious about how good it will be at radio frequencies, as I would about any RC oscillator. It seems a stretch to expect it to work as well at 12MHz as at 10KHz. I agree. But on the other hand if you controll this 8038 with another PLL synthesizer, i think the overall performance should be ok from 10 kHz to 12 MHz. I think that is the way how most of "pro stuff" works. |
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![]() Leigh W3NLB wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:11:57 +0200, "Tom" wrote: Hello If anyone can recommend me a good book from which i will learn to construct oscillator that for example covers range 0-12 MHz. Thanks in advance! Tom 12 MHz is easy. 0 MHz is really difficult. Zero MHz is real easy, just throw a capacitor, transistor, resistor, tube, or any other electronic component on the bench. There, an oscillator that oscillators at zero MHz. |
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