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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/2/2014 5:55 PM, wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 1:11 AM, the well-known troll wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: snip I'm old enough that I've learned people like him just aren't worth getting all upset over. Then why bother responding at all? Because I try to be polite Since when? Do you think calling people trolls, liars, incompetent, etc. is being polite? If you were polite you wouldn't be in ****ing contests on a regular basis that only stop when the other person no longer responds to you. I am polite. If you were polite you wouldn't be in ****ing contests on a regular basis that only stop when the other person no longer responds to you. calling people liers (sic). If you were anything other than an egomaniacal ass, you wouldn't keep bringing up a typo. -- Jim Pennino |
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In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Jerry Stuckle wrote:
ssnip If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, then it's a troll And trolls don't understand there is a difference between apples and oranges. snip ROFLMAO! You and a couple of other trolls who made ukram the cesspool it is. snip And you still don't understand the difference between apples and oranges. But trolls don't. And he is off!!! -- Jim Pennino |
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On 12/2/2014 8:59 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 5:55 PM, wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 1:11 AM, the well-known troll wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: snip I'm old enough that I've learned people like him just aren't worth getting all upset over. Then why bother responding at all? Because I try to be polite Since when? Do you think calling people trolls, liars, incompetent, etc. is being polite? If you were polite you wouldn't be in ****ing contests on a regular basis that only stop when the other person no longer responds to you. I am polite. If you were polite you wouldn't be in ****ing contests on a regular basis that only stop when the other person no longer responds to you. No ****ing contest. It is impolite to ignore someone when they talk to you. However, that does not mean you can't tell the truth and call a troll a troll. calling people liers (sic). If you were anything other than an egomaniacal ass, you wouldn't keep bringing up a typo. You made it more than once, Jimmy. But once again, you're loosing it. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/2/2014 9:03 PM, the well-known troll wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Jerry Stuckle wrote: ssnip If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, then it's a troll And trolls don't understand there is a difference between apples and oranges. snip ROFLMAO! You and a couple of other trolls who made ukram the cesspool it is. snip And you still don't understand the difference between apples and oranges. But trolls don't. And he is off!!! Yup, and I see you're trolling again. Just like you admit you do. Are you going to lose it again? Poor boy. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/2/2014 9:03 PM, the well-known troll wrote: In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Jerry Stuckle wrote: ssnip If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, then it's a troll And trolls don't understand there is a difference between apples and oranges. snip ROFLMAO! You and a couple of other trolls who made ukram the cesspool it is. snip And you still don't understand the difference between apples and oranges. But trolls don't. And he is off!!! Yup, and I see you're trolling again. Just like you admit you do. Are you going to lose it again? Poor boy. Megalomaniac. -- Jim Pennino |
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Fred Roberts wrote:
snip, educationally subnormal "special" people who get the - ha ha - exam and answers read to them snip I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? -- Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone |
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Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500 Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over as moderators of ukrram. I have not seen that suggested, It's been implied many times. what Spike is trying to say is that if the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no recourse to any mechanism to prevent it. Incorrect. At any point, any individual can RFD to remove/replace moderators. -- Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone |
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Spike wrote: On 02/12/14 17:07, g8dgc wrote: Spike wrote: And we don't want Stuckle over here. Isn't the US big enough for you? TINW This is not working? "There Is No We". +1. I've never understood many of the anti squad's distaste of Americans, it always seems to be bubbling away just under the surface, ready to show its shameful face in an argument as it has here with Spike. Maybe a GI nicked their girlfriend during the war and they're still smarting over it? -- Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone |
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"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
... On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 01:11:48 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay Oh dear, Fred. What happened to your proposed KF? |
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"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
... Fred Roberts wrote: snip, educationally subnormal "special" people who get the - ha ha - exam and answers read to them snip I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? How could such people ever pratice technical matters? |
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"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
... +1. I've never understood many of the anti squad's distaste of Americans, it always seems to be bubbling away just under the surface, ready to show its shameful face in an argument as it has here with Spike. Maybe a GI nicked their girlfriend during the war and they're still smarting over it? Well, we're all awaiting the arrival of your holier-than-thou abuse statistics, but will they include your reversion to type of the last day or so? Leopards, spots, anyome? |
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In message , Spike
writes On 02/12/14 17:48, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Spike writes On 02/12/14 15:53, Ian Jackson wrote: If the moderation policies out to be unsatisfactory, there are remedies - and if all else fails, simply pretend that the moderated NG doesn't exist - which is what I already do with the 98,299 NGs out there, but I don't subscribe to. Wrong argument, Ian. We're talking about the succession, not about the moderation policies So you are objecting to the moderators, and their heirs and successors, regardless of their actual moderation policies? Could you point me to where you think I said that? About 3" further up my screen. -- Ian |
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On 03/12/14 00:51, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/2/2014 6:20 PM, Spike wrote: Are you an engineer or technician? You sound like one or the other. Yes. And I have been for around 40 years. Ah, now I understand. The chap who is behind the RFD is the same chap who brought 'order' to the US groups (and RRAM can be seen by all to be the roaring success of this policy[1,2,3]), and the Charter and ModPol for the proposed group being little more than a cut-and-paste job, even down to the Americanisms. [1] 61.7% blog posts [2] Less than 1 post per day from individuals over 18 months [3] The last gap between individual's posts was 4 days 2 hours. TTFN -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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On 03/12/14 06:11, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Brian Morrison wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500 Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over as moderators of ukrram. I have not seen that suggested, It's been implied many times. what Spike is trying to say is that if the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no recourse to any mechanism to prevent it. Incorrect. At any point, any individual can RFD to remove/replace moderators. Has that ever been done? How long did the process take, and what was the outcome? -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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On 02/12/14 23:35, Chronos wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 23:20:42 +0000 Spike wrote: Not my problem. Thank you for your vigilance, Spike. I killfiled Stuckle a while back as he makes my teeth itch. You're made of sterner stuff than I ;-) No, it's just a case of repeating what's been said, because he failed to grasp it the previous time, and avoiding his silly attempts to move the goalposts. -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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On 03/12/14 08:19, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Spike writes On 02/12/14 17:48, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Spike writes On 02/12/14 15:53, Ian Jackson wrote: If the moderation policies out to be unsatisfactory, there are remedies - and if all else fails, simply pretend that the moderated NG doesn't exist - which is what I already do with the 98,299 NGs out there, but I don't subscribe to. Wrong argument, Ian. We're talking about the succession, not about the moderation policies So you are objecting to the moderators, and their heirs and successors, regardless of their actual moderation policies? Could you point me to where you think I said that? About 3" further up my screen. Oh, the bit where I said "Wrong argument, Ian. We're talking about the succession, not about the moderation policies". The Succession of Moderators != Moderators. HTH -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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Fred Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 06:11:44 +0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole wrote: Fred Roberts wrote: snip, educationally subnormal "special" people who get the - ha ha - exam and answers read to them snip I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? I'm not starting anything, Frank. I'm genuinely interested to understand your POV on this, as I simply can't wrap my head around the suggestion that provision for the disabled is a bad thing. CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people. This is a technical pursuit not a hobby that was always within reach of anyone prepared to make an effort - ANYONE. It did not need to be dumbed down to the level it has been. You *seem* to be a clever chap Stephen you tell me why such people aren't allowed readers and scribe assistants in their pursuit to become brain surgeons and why such people aren't allowed to drive on our roads. None of that remotely addresses the question, which is; why shouldn't people with disabilities be provided services (reader and scribe) to help them access amateur radio? -- Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone |
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"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
... Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people. This is a technical pursuit not a hobby that was always within reach of anyone prepared to make an effort - ANYONE. It did not need to be dumbed down to the level it has been. You *seem* to be a clever chap Stephen you tell me why such people aren't allowed readers and scribe assistants in their pursuit to become brain surgeons and why such people aren't allowed to drive on our roads. WHS +100 |
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On 12/3/2014 4:18 AM, Fred Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 06:11:44 +0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole wrote: Fred Roberts wrote: snip, educationally subnormal "special" people who get the - ha ha - exam and answers read to them snip I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people. This is a technical pursuit not a hobby that was always within reach of anyone prepared to make an effort - ANYONE. It did not need to be dumbed down to the level it has been. You *seem* to be a clever chap Stephen you tell me why such people aren't allowed readers and scribe assistants in their pursuit to become brain surgeons and why such people aren't allowed to drive on our roads. I disagree with you 100%, Fred. I know one ham in North Carolina who is an accomplished two-way business radio tech. He also built the Piedmont Coastal Repeater Network, a series of linked repeaters covering much of North Carolina. And he is blind (since birth, IIRC). He doesn't deserve a ham license because he's blind? I had a roommate back in the 70's who was also a ham. He had a First Class Radiotelephone license and was an engineer at a local radio station. He's been blind since birth. He doesn't deserve a ham license because he's blind? Oh, and BTW - both got their licenses when the FCC was administering the exams. You show a distinct prejudice against disabled people and their accomplishments. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/3/2014 1:11 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Brian Morrison wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500 Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over as moderators of ukrram. I have not seen that suggested, It's been implied many times. I have never seen it implied, either. what Spike is trying to say is that if the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no recourse to any mechanism to prevent it. Incorrect. At any point, any individual can RFD to remove/replace moderators. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/3/2014 1:03 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 9:03 PM, the well-known troll wrote: In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Jerry Stuckle wrote: ssnip If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, then it's a troll And trolls don't understand there is a difference between apples and oranges. snip ROFLMAO! You and a couple of other trolls who made ukram the cesspool it is. snip And you still don't understand the difference between apples and oranges. But trolls don't. And he is off!!! Yup, and I see you're trolling again. Just like you admit you do. Are you going to lose it again? Poor boy. Megalomaniac. Poor boy. You've lost it again, Jimmy. All you're capable of is ad hominim attacks. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/3/2014 4:23 AM, Spike wrote:
On 03/12/14 00:51, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:20 PM, Spike wrote: Are you an engineer or technician? You sound like one or the other. Yes. And I have been for around 40 years. Ah, now I understand. The chap who is behind the RFD is the same chap who brought 'order' to the US groups (and RRAM can be seen by all to be the roaring success of this policy[1,2,3]), and the Charter and ModPol for the proposed group being little more than a cut-and-paste job, even down to the Americanisms. [1] 61.7% blog posts [2] Less than 1 post per day from individuals over 18 months [3] The last gap between individual's posts was 4 days 2 hours. TTFN Which has absolutely nothing to do with ukram. They are two different newsgroups, with two different audiences and two different moderation teams. The only thing they have in common is the proposer of the RFD. But that is immaterial since he has no say in the running of either newsgroup, and anyone can create an RFD. Either that or your grasping at straws to try to make your argument. And it isn't working. But you don't seem to be able to understand the difference between apples and oranges. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 03/12/14 14:51, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/3/2014 4:23 AM, Spike wrote: On 03/12/14 00:51, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:20 PM, Spike wrote: Are you an engineer or technician? You sound like one or the other. Yes. And I have been for around 40 years. Ah, now I understand. The chap who is behind the RFD is the same chap who brought 'order' to the US groups (and RRAM can be seen by all to be the roaring success of this policy[1,2,3]), and the Charter and ModPol for the proposed group being little more than a cut-and-paste job, even down to the Americanisms. [1] 61.7% blog posts [2] Less than 1 post per day from individuals over 18 months [3] The last gap between individual's posts was 4 days 2 hours. TTFN Which has absolutely nothing to do with ukram. They are two different newsgroups, with two different audiences and two different moderation teams. The only thing they have in common is the proposer of the RFD. Plus the Charter and ModPol. I don't expect you to see the Americanisms in there. But that is immaterial since he has no say in the running of either newsgroup, and anyone can create an RFD. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. Either that or your grasping at straws to try to make your argument. And it isn't working. But you don't seem to be able to understand the difference between apples and oranges. Don't go shopping for poultry, or you may be very disappointed. -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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On 12/3/2014 9:58 AM, Fred Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:44:55 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I disagree with you 100%, Fred. I know one ham in North Carolina who is an accomplished two-way business radio tech. He also built the Piedmont Coastal Repeater Network, a series of linked repeaters covering much of North Carolina. Well if you disagreed with what I'm actually talking about you might have a point. But you haven't and you don't. And he is blind (since birth, IIRC). He doesn't deserve a ham license because he's blind? I said no such thing, can I suggest you read the is thread and understand it before posting such, well, crap. I have read the thread. To refresh your memory: Stephen: I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? You: Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people... An obvious bias against disabled people, even if you don't want to admit it. I had a roommate back in the 70's who was also a ham. He had a First Class Radiotelephone license and was an engineer at a local radio station. He's been blind since birth. He doesn't deserve a ham license because he's blind? I said no such thing, can I suggest you read the is thread and understand it before posting such, well, crap. Oh, and BTW - both got their licenses when the FCC was administering the exams. Good for them. You show a distinct prejudice against disabled people and their accomplishments. Where? You show a distinct lack of English comprehension and you are guilty of falling for the propaganda posted by Cole and Reay oh, you also talk crap. By your statements, as noted above. But you can't take back your words, so you start with the ad hominim attacks. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/3/2014 10:15 AM, Spike wrote:
On 03/12/14 14:51, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/3/2014 4:23 AM, Spike wrote: On 03/12/14 00:51, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:20 PM, Spike wrote: Are you an engineer or technician? You sound like one or the other. Yes. And I have been for around 40 years. Ah, now I understand. The chap who is behind the RFD is the same chap who brought 'order' to the US groups (and RRAM can be seen by all to be the roaring success of this policy[1,2,3]), and the Charter and ModPol for the proposed group being little more than a cut-and-paste job, even down to the Americanisms. [1] 61.7% blog posts [2] Less than 1 post per day from individuals over 18 months [3] The last gap between individual's posts was 4 days 2 hours. TTFN Which has absolutely nothing to do with ukram. They are two different newsgroups, with two different audiences and two different moderation teams. The only thing they have in common is the proposer of the RFD. Plus the Charter and ModPol. I don't expect you to see the Americanisms in there. So what? Since you seem to be completely clueless, here's what must be a huge enlightenment to you: RFDs are not created from scratch. People almost always take the RFD (and ModPol) of an existing group and just modify it for the new group. And BTW - this happens not only in RFDs - it is a common practice around the world in many different areas. And it's also not limited to printed material. And you'll find all moderated groups will have very similar Charters and ModPols. In fact, I would highly expect that the RFD for rram was copied from another moderated newsgroup's RFD. Once again you're grasping at straws. But that is immaterial since he has no say in the running of either newsgroup, and anyone can create an RFD. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, it's a troll. Either that or your grasping at straws to try to make your argument. And it isn't working. But you don't seem to be able to understand the difference between apples and oranges. Don't go shopping for poultry, or you may be very disappointed. You obviously can't understand the difference between apples and oranges. Either that or you're grasping at straws, trying to make you point - and failing miserably. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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Fred Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 10:46:21 +0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? I'm not starting anything, Frank. I'm genuinely interested to understand your POV on this, as I simply can't wrap my head around the suggestion that provision for the disabled is a bad thing. There you go again. No one has a problem with provision for the disabled. You clearly stated that you disagree with questions being read out to candidates and the answers being written down for them. Why do you continually state that the less intelligent are disabled? They are not. I have a problem with the dense. I have a problem with the dense and those pretending to be dense being given "assistance" that beggars belief. What assistance? Do you have any evidence to back this up? What do I mean by dense? Look no further than the Jocktards posting here. Do you think such scum belong in amateur radio? They don't. I have major problems as does any right thinking person about special provision being made for such people. What evidence do you have that reader and scribe services have been supplied to those who don't need it? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people. This is a technical pursuit not a hobby that was always within reach of anyone prepared to make an effort - ANYONE. It did not need to be dumbed down to the level it has been. You *seem* to be a clever chap Stephen you tell me why such people aren't allowed readers and scribe assistants in their pursuit to become brain surgeons and why such people aren't allowed to drive on our roads. None of that remotely addresses the question, which is; why shouldn't people with disabilities be provided services (reader and scribe) to help them access amateur radio? Disabled and dense are two entirely different things and you know it. It's a fine line you're walking there, Frank. Unless you'd like to share your clinical psychiatry qualifications and experience with us, I'd steer clear of defining who has a disability and who doesn't if I were you. -- Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone |
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On 03/12/14 15:30, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/3/2014 10:15 AM, Spike wrote: Which has absolutely nothing to do with ukram. They are two different newsgroups, with two different audiences and two different moderation teams. The only thing they have in common is the proposer of the RFD. Plus the Charter and ModPol. I don't expect you to see the Americanisms in there. So what? Since you seem to be completely clueless, here's what must be a huge enlightenment to you: Ad hominem RFDs are not created from scratch. Only by the lazy, or those seeking some form of 'authority'. People almost always take the RFD (and ModPol) of an existing group and just modify it for the new group. And BTW - this happens not only in RFDs - it is a common practice around the world in many different areas. And it's also not limited to printed material. That explains a lot. What a glorious chance was missed here. And you'll find all moderated groups will have very similar Charters and ModPols. In fact, I would highly expect that the RFD for rram was copied from another moderated newsgroup's RFD. Ad populum. Once again you're grasping at straws. Ad hominem. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, it's a troll. Oh, I'd agree with you there. But I'm a nice chap and overlook the negative side of others. Don't go shopping for poultry, or you may be very disappointed. You obviously can't understand the difference between apples and oranges. Either that or you're grasping at straws, trying to make you point - and failing miserably. I've got a feeling I might get the point across, if I say it often enough: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
... You first Stephen, you're the one who introduced disability into this thread , not I. And it is M6CIR who is squirming and back-pedalling furiously |
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Fred Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 15:38:47 +0000 (UTC), Stephen Thomas Cole wrote: There you go again. No one has a problem with provision for the disabled. You clearly stated that you disagree with questions being read out to candidates and the answers being written down for them. I do. Being less intelligent doesn't mean disabled. Do you have a clinical psychiatry qualification? Why do you continually state that the less intelligent are disabled? They are not. I have a problem with the dense. I have a problem with the dense and those pretending to be dense being given "assistance" that beggars belief. What assistance? Do you have any evidence to back this up? Yes. Please post it. If you refuse to, I can only conclude that you're lying. What do I mean by dense? Look no further than the Jocktards posting here. Do you think such scum belong in amateur radio? They don't. I have major problems as does any right thinking person about special provision being made for such people. What evidence do you have that reader and scribe services have been supplied to those who don't need it? I have posted the details before only to have them roundly rubbished by Katie. Please post *evidence*, not unfounded accusations. CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people. This is a technical pursuit not a hobby that was always within reach of anyone prepared to make an effort - ANYONE. It did not need to be dumbed down to the level it has been. You *seem* to be a clever chap Stephen you tell me why such people aren't allowed readers and scribe assistants in their pursuit to become brain surgeons and why such people aren't allowed to drive on our roads. None of that remotely addresses the question, which is; why shouldn't people with disabilities be provided services (reader and scribe) to help them access amateur radio? Disabled and dense are two entirely different things and you know it. It's a fine line you're walking there, Frank. Unless you'd like to share your clinical psychiatry qualifications and experience with us, I'd steer clear of defining who has a disability and who doesn't if I were you. You first Stephen, you're the one who introduced disability into this thread , not I. You attacked the provision of reader and scribe, a service for the disabled, not I. -- Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone |
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On 12/3/2014 10:39 AM, Fred Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:22:32 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: [snip] I have read the thread. To refresh your memory: Ok.. Stephen: I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? You: Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people... An obvious bias against disabled people, even if you don't want to admit it. Now then, Jerry I'll make this really simple for you as you are clearly struggling to keep up. I am not talking about the disabled, you have fallen for a red herring introduced by STC. Clear? You specifically replied to a comment on the disabled. How can you NOT be talking about the disabled? [snip for brevity - your feel good about yourself stuff] Where? You show a distinct lack of English comprehension and you are guilty of falling for the propaganda posted by Cole and Reay oh, you also talk crap. By your statements, as noted above. But you can't take back your words, so you start with the ad hominim attacks. I don't take back my words. I have nowhere discriminated against the disabled. Nowhere. You seem to be incapable or unwilling to understand what I actually posted. You Jerry, started the ad hominem attacks by stating that I was prejudiced. I killfiled you over in UKNNC, I'm about to do the same here. You replied to a post specifically about the disabled. Accusing someone of being prejudiced is not an ad hominim attack - except to the thin skinned. And do you REALLY think killfiling me hurts me in any way? ROFLMAO! -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/3/2014 10:40 AM, Spike wrote:
On 03/12/14 15:30, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/3/2014 10:15 AM, Spike wrote: Which has absolutely nothing to do with ukram. They are two different newsgroups, with two different audiences and two different moderation teams. The only thing they have in common is the proposer of the RFD. Plus the Charter and ModPol. I don't expect you to see the Americanisms in there. So what? Since you seem to be completely clueless, here's what must be a huge enlightenment to you: Ad hominem RFDs are not created from scratch. Only by the lazy, or those seeking some form of 'authority'. People almost always take the RFD (and ModPol) of an existing group and just modify it for the new group. And BTW - this happens not only in RFDs - it is a common practice around the world in many different areas. And it's also not limited to printed material. That explains a lot. What a glorious chance was missed here. And you'll find all moderated groups will have very similar Charters and ModPols. In fact, I would highly expect that the RFD for rram was copied from another moderated newsgroup's RFD. Ad populum. Once again you're grasping at straws. Ad hominem. ROFLMAO! If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. If it walks like a troll, quacks like a troll, and has the antecedents of a troll, it's a troll. Oh, I'd agree with you there. But I'm a nice chap and overlook the negative side of others. ROFLMAO! Don't go shopping for poultry, or you may be very disappointed. You obviously can't understand the difference between apples and oranges. Either that or you're grasping at straws, trying to make you point - and failing miserably. I've got a feeling I might get the point across, if I say it often enough: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. You either can't understand the difference between apples and oranges, or you are grasping at straws, trying desperately to make your point - and failing miserably. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:11:05 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
And do you REALLY think killfiling me hurts me in any way? I sincerely I hope it does not. plonk -- M0WYM Sales @ radiowymsey http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/ |
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On 03/12/14 17:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/3/2014 10:40 AM, Spike wrote: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. You either can't understand the difference between apples and oranges, or you are grasping at straws, trying desperately to make your point - and failing miserably. I admit I'm not making my point as far as you are concerned, but that's your problem, not mine. I could care less (US); I couldn't care less (UK). -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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On 03/12/14 17:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/3/2014 10:39 AM, Fred Roberts wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:22:32 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: [snip] I have read the thread. To refresh your memory: Ok.. Stephen: I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? You: Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people... An obvious bias against disabled people, even if you don't want to admit it. Now then, Jerry I'll make this really simple for you as you are clearly struggling to keep up. I am not talking about the disabled, you have fallen for a red herring introduced by STC. Clear? You specifically replied to a comment on the disabled. How can you NOT be talking about the disabled? [snip for brevity - your feel good about yourself stuff] Where? You show a distinct lack of English comprehension and you are guilty of falling for the propaganda posted by Cole and Reay oh, you also talk crap. By your statements, as noted above. But you can't take back your words, so you start with the ad hominim attacks. I don't take back my words. I have nowhere discriminated against the disabled. Nowhere. You seem to be incapable or unwilling to understand what I actually posted. You Jerry, started the ad hominem attacks by stating that I was prejudiced. I killfiled you over in UKNNC, I'm about to do the same here. You replied to a post specifically about the disabled. Accusing someone of being prejudiced is not an ad hominim attack - except to the thin skinned. And do you REALLY think killfiling me hurts me in any way? ROFLMAO! The problem is Jerry, he never does kill file people. He would get lonely. |
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On 12/3/2014 12:34 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 03/12/14 17:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/3/2014 10:39 AM, Fred Roberts wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:22:32 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: [snip] I have read the thread. To refresh your memory: Ok.. Stephen: I, for one, am very happy that our hobby has provision to accommodate disabled individuals, through supply of reader and scribe assistance. Why aren't you, Frank? You: Don't you start again or I'll start again, ok? CB radio and PMR 446 exists for such people... An obvious bias against disabled people, even if you don't want to admit it. Now then, Jerry I'll make this really simple for you as you are clearly struggling to keep up. I am not talking about the disabled, you have fallen for a red herring introduced by STC. Clear? You specifically replied to a comment on the disabled. How can you NOT be talking about the disabled? [snip for brevity - your feel good about yourself stuff] Where? You show a distinct lack of English comprehension and you are guilty of falling for the propaganda posted by Cole and Reay oh, you also talk crap. By your statements, as noted above. But you can't take back your words, so you start with the ad hominim attacks. I don't take back my words. I have nowhere discriminated against the disabled. Nowhere. You seem to be incapable or unwilling to understand what I actually posted. You Jerry, started the ad hominem attacks by stating that I was prejudiced. I killfiled you over in UKNNC, I'm about to do the same here. You replied to a post specifically about the disabled. Accusing someone of being prejudiced is not an ad hominim attack - except to the thin skinned. And do you REALLY think killfiling me hurts me in any way? ROFLMAO! The problem is Jerry, he never does kill file people. He would get lonely. Hi, Brian, ROFLMAO! IRDGAS if he does or doesn't. And I'll be that REALLY ****es him off :) -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 12/3/2014 12:33 PM, Spike wrote:
On 03/12/14 17:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/3/2014 10:40 AM, Spike wrote: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. You either can't understand the difference between apples and oranges, or you are grasping at straws, trying desperately to make your point - and failing miserably. I admit I'm not making my point as far as you are concerned, but that's your problem, not mine. I could care less (US); I couldn't care less (UK). It's not only me - it's others here, also. And by continuing to try to compare apples and oranges, you only make yourself look sillier (if that's possible). And now you're back to the "care less" argument, eh, Spike? You still think you know more about U.S. idioms than people who live in the U.S. Sillier yet! -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
... On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:34:51 +0000, Brian Reay wrote: The problem is Jerry, he never does kill file people. He would get lonely. When I killfile people I really do killfile them. You're the only poster in here that I am aware of who was outed for running a bogus killfile. I shall apply to the Court of Human Rights (or whatever it's called at this moment) for an order that I be placed in everybody's kill file. No discrimination, everybody's kill file. .. .. .. .... or maybe I'll just pour myself another drinK. -- ;-) .. 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. .. http://turner-smith.co.uk |
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On 03/12/14 21:03, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 12/3/2014 12:33 PM, Spike wrote: On 03/12/14 17:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/3/2014 10:40 AM, Spike wrote: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has the antecedents of a duck, it's a duck. You either can't understand the difference between apples and oranges, or you are grasping at straws, trying desperately to make your point - and failing miserably. I admit I'm not making my point as far as you are concerned, but that's your problem, not mine. I could care less (US); I couldn't care less (UK). It's not only me - it's others here, also. And by continuing to try to compare apples and oranges, you only make yourself look sillier (if that's possible). And now you're back to the "care less" argument, eh, Spike? You still think you know more about U.S. idioms than people who live in the U.S. Sillier yet! Thanks for confirming that you don't understand what's going on. -- Spike "Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad law". Judge Rolfe |
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On 03/12/2014 19:26, Brian Reay wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote: g8dgc wrote: Spike wrote: On 02/12/14 17:07, g8dgc wrote: Spike wrote: And we don't want Stuckle over here. Isn't the US big enough for you? TINW This is not working? "There Is No We". +1. I've never understood many of the anti squad's distaste of Americans, it always seems to be bubbling away just under the surface, ready to show its shameful face in an argument as it has here with Spike. Maybe a GI nicked their girlfriend during the war and they're still smarting over it? Americans tend to have a low tolerance for bovine muck. You've been watching that George Carlin video haven't you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsT0S0575HU [NSFW] -- Mouse. Where Morse meets House. |
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