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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I'm old enough that I've learned people like him just aren't worth
getting all upset over.

Then why bother responding at all?


--
Jim Pennino

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Lostgallifreyan wrote:
rickman wrote in :

Man, what have you been smoking?


Nothing. I don't drink either. But if you can only think of feeble replies
like those, then you aren't thinking well enough, No wonder you, and so many
others here, go round inj silly little circles. Do you really think that
techncalities explain and shape thew world, and all that is in it? If so, and
you can do nothign but deride all who express anythign to suggest they think
otherwise, then you'll just keep winding yourself round those little circles
while the rewt find other things to do.

I agree with much that you've posted in this thread. Usenet is riven with
degenerates who are full of bitterness, particularly in the amateur radio
groups and particularly in ukra.

The CFV for the moderated uk.* group is open. if you lend your vote to its
creation, we may well end up with a haven on Usenet away from the spite and
silliness that'll be worth your staying for. I hope to see you around.

--
Stephen Thomas Cole // Sent from my iPhone

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"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message
...
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Nothing. I don't drink either. But if you can only think of feeble
replies
like those, then you aren't thinking well enough, No wonder you, and so
many
others here, go round inj silly little circles. Do you really think that
techncalities explain and shape thew world, and all that is in it? If so,
and
you can do nothign but deride all who express anythign to suggest they
think
otherwise, then you'll just keep winding yourself round those little
circles
while the rewt find other things to do.

I agree with much that you've posted in this thread.

That is because you are as two peas in a pod; both posting page after page
of non-technical waffle; waffle that is completely unrelated to amateur
radio
and generally riddled with ad hominem remarks.

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On 02/12/14 00:11, Lostgallifreyan wrote:

BT are going to kill Giganews, and due to recent events I decided I'd not be
chasing Usenet after I lose easy access, but this point is too interesting
for me not to post, even if I don't see any replies. (BT puls the plug in
under 48 hours from now).

Open a free account with the well-regarded Eternal September, or pay a
massive 10 euro for News Individual Net's excellent service. Both text only.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

http://news.individual.net/

Keep in mind the forthcoming vote for the formation of a UK Usenet
Amateur Radio moderated group. If you want to see how successful the US
version has been - they have the same US chap behind their formation,
and the US Charter has been virtually cut-and-pasted - visit
rec.radio.amateur.moderated.

You'll need a hefty kill-file to get rid of the AR-related blogs (61.7%
of the total) and bear the long gaps between postings by individuals (4
days 2 hours for the last one). But it's a haven! So much so that no-one
from here posts on it despite some wanting a moderated group.

Just because BT is rolling over doesn't mean you won't have Usenet access.

--
Spike

"Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad
law". Judge Rolfe

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Chronos wrote in
:

He's doing it with a
verbosity never before seen on a digital medium but there's no great
harm in that.


Precisely so. :)

I had a thought before switching on the computer today... We get nice
straight lines, accurate letters to write with, and it's easier than ever to
hide irrationality behind a veneer that feels authratitative. Apart from
typos due to agitation or poor eyesight (and good luck to anyone who thinks
they can easily tell the difference in another person's post), it's often
hard to tell what's behind some of the statements made this way. My verbosity
comes from knowing that the more said, the more clues we leave. I'm ok with
that, because it reduces risk of misinterpretation.

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Stephen Thomas Cole wrote in
:

I agree with much that you've posted in this thread. Usenet is riven with
degenerates who are full of bitterness, particularly in the amateur radio
groups and particularly in ukra.

The CFV for the moderated uk.* group is open. if you lend your vote to its
creation, we may well end up with a haven on Usenet away from the spite and
silliness that'll be worth your staying for. I hope to see you around.


BT are pulling Usenet's plug for their clients in about 24 hours from now,
and I'm not chasing after it, hence I'm trying to chose words carefully (if a
tad excessively) to say my bit while I still have this access.

I'm not so concerned with degeneracy, so long as it doesn't directly and
unavoidably impact on my life. When crack dens open up in a neighbour's flat,
or stuff pours from windows into the yards, then I try to stop it somehow,
after learnign over the course of twenty years how hard that is if allowed to
get out of hand. Otherwise, live and let live, says I.

I agree that a moderated space is useful, nice even, like the difference
between having a drink in an orderly pub, and doing it under a railway arch.
(I do not drink so I indulge in metaphor instead.) I'm more concerned with
'generacy'. So long as it grows without being stamped on, there's an antidote
to the quarreling, and people will make that railway arch as nice as an
orderly pub. Put it another way: if they don't try, they will probably end up
trashing the pub too. Pubs are a useful metaphor, their openly
accessed design, with saloons, gardens, whatever, are part of centuries old
efforts to solve problems with human interactions. Usenet could probably
learn from them... Like a pub, it is an anachronism that is unlikely to die.
Just remember that in any bar that has too many fights, all that remain are
fighters. And most of them dig in like they prefer the pain. I never figured
that out, people say they don't want it, yet they court it, often. It will
probably be easier, and better, to choose one way or the other, or more
people will leave than arrive.

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Spike wrote in
:

Just because BT is rolling over doesn't mean you won't have Usenet access.


I want to break from it, BT are just making the decision easier. I might get
back to it sometime, but I always chose to haunt one group at a time, it's
just the way I do things. It's not really been a successful way to do it. To
ignore a group for a while when a fight breaks out, instead going to haunt
another with some interesting discussion in it, is an obvious better move,
and I used to do it too, but managing about 3 to 5 groups at once is all I
could handle. I also tend to say a lot at times, and I often go to silence
purely to balance that out if nothing else. I won't make fights but I can be
obsessive, and I have some other things I need to do that could use a bit of
constructive obsession. A bit of monklike silence will be good for me.

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Chronos wrote in
:

Of course, some people can be wilfully obtuse, however much
care you take with your prose.


And however much care I take, there will be some flaw I notice within a day,
or an hour. :) Never mind, if the spirit gets past the letter, then something
worked.

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On 02/12/14 12:25, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Spike wrote in
:

Just because BT is rolling over doesn't mean you won't have Usenet access.

I want to break from it, BT are just making the decision easier.

snip

Fair enough.

I'm sure there will be some of us about if you decide to look in again.

ITMT, good luck with your project(s).


--
Spike

"Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad
law". Judge Rolfe