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Old September 3rd 03, 06:13 PM
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Another question resulting from too much time on my hands. Why do we
have rectifier diodes (e.g. 1N4xxx, 1N54xx) with different voltage
ratings? Other than the voltage rating I don't see any differences on
the data sheets I've looked at. Why not just make and use 1kv diodes
alone?

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Old September 3rd 03, 06:39 PM
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Lower voltage rectifiers are easier to make and therefore cheaper. Further,
they have lower forward drop and are faster. No point in using too high a
rating if these other factors are worth considering.


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Old September 3rd 03, 08:42 PM
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the funnie this is that the $$$ diference is not seen at the costumers end.

do you realy care the the diode is 3 Cents more (making a 100$ project)from
the low votalge one.......(some stores some cases)

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Lower voltage rectifiers are easier to make and therefore cheaper.

Further,
they have lower forward drop and are faster. No point in using too high a
rating if these other factors are worth considering.




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Old September 3rd 03, 08:58 PM
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the funnie this is that the $$$ diference is not seen at the costumers end.

do you realy care the the diode is 3 Cents more (making a 100$ project)from
the low votalge one.......(some stores some cases)


You might be surprised.

In fact, cost reduction is a *big* issue in the manufacture of many
(most?) consumer electronic products.

Look at it this way: if you save three cents on a single part, of
which only one is used in a $100 device... and you manufacture a
million of these devices per year... then you've saved $30,000 per
year. That's not chump-change.

If you can save $.03 per part, and you use ten of these parts per
device, and you manufacture a million units per year - then you've
just saved $300,000, which will cover the cost (salary and overhead)
of at least one good engineer.

Yes, my friend, big electronics companies _do_ care - a lot - about
shaving the pennies out of the bill-of-materials cost of the devices
they manufacture.

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the funnie this is that the $$$ diference is not seen at the costumers end.

do you realy care the the diode is 3 Cents more (making a 100$ project)from
the low votalge one.......(some stores some cases)


You might be surprised.

In fact, cost reduction is a *big* issue in the manufacture of many
(most?) consumer electronic products.

Look at it this way: if you save three cents on a single part, of
which only one is used in a $100 device... and you manufacture a
million of these devices per year... then you've saved $30,000 per
year. That's not chump-change.

If you can save $.03 per part, and you use ten of these parts per
device, and you manufacture a million units per year - then you've
just saved $300,000, which will cover the cost (salary and overhead)
of at least one good engineer.

Yes, my friend, big electronics companies _do_ care - a lot - about
shaving the pennies out of the bill-of-materials cost of the devices
they manufacture.

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Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
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the funnie this is that the $$$ diference is not seen at the costumers end.

do you realy care the the diode is 3 Cents more (making a 100$ project)from
the low votalge one.......(some stores some cases)

73's


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"Bob" wrote in message
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Lower voltage rectifiers are easier to make and therefore cheaper.

Further,
they have lower forward drop and are faster. No point in using too high a
rating if these other factors are worth considering.




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Old September 4th 03, 08:06 AM
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:39:33 -0700, "Bob"
wrote:

Lower voltage rectifiers are easier to make and therefore cheaper. Further,
they have lower forward drop and are faster. No point in using too high a
rating if these other factors are worth considering.


While the 1 kV 1N4007 is definitely a different creature (with some
PIN diode characteristics) compared to the lower voltage 1N4001-1N4006
rectifiers, I very much doubt that they make separate wafers for
1N4001, 1N4002 etc. but instead try to make, say a 500 V rectifier.

My guess is that they just measure the reverse leakage voltage at
various voltages and print a different label, based on these
measurements. Those passing only the 50 V test will be labelled 1N4001
and sold at a slightly lower price and so on.

If there is a huge order for 1N4001 and there is not enough 50 V units
produced, some units tested OK for 100-500 V are labelled 1N4001 to
full fill the large order. Thus, some selected 1N4001 parts may work
even above 100 V.

Paul OH3LWR

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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:39:33 -0700, "Bob"
wrote:

Lower voltage rectifiers are easier to make and therefore cheaper. Further,
they have lower forward drop and are faster. No point in using too high a
rating if these other factors are worth considering.


While the 1 kV 1N4007 is definitely a different creature (with some
PIN diode characteristics) compared to the lower voltage 1N4001-1N4006
rectifiers, I very much doubt that they make separate wafers for
1N4001, 1N4002 etc. but instead try to make, say a 500 V rectifier.

My guess is that they just measure the reverse leakage voltage at
various voltages and print a different label, based on these
measurements. Those passing only the 50 V test will be labelled 1N4001
and sold at a slightly lower price and so on.

If there is a huge order for 1N4001 and there is not enough 50 V units
produced, some units tested OK for 100-500 V are labelled 1N4001 to
full fill the large order. Thus, some selected 1N4001 parts may work
even above 100 V.

Paul OH3LWR

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Lower voltage rectifiers are easier to make and therefore cheaper. Further,
they have lower forward drop and are faster. No point in using too high a
rating if these other factors are worth considering.


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