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Zoran Brlecic September 19th 03 05:10 AM

W8CRZ wrote:
I have a 3-500z tube and just want to make a conversation piece out of it. I
am going to make a wood base for it and I would also like to feed some
current into it just to make it glow.I was told it was possible but he
wasn't sure how or which pins to do it with.


Pins 1 and 5.

Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow?


Yes, you do.

Would 12 volt work?


For a very, very limited time, providing your 12V supply is capable of
dishing out 40A. If it's not, it would either clamp down to the maximum
current or trip the breaker.

If all you want to do is make it appear that it's glowing, build in a
few LEDs into the wood base. None will be the wiser.


73 .... WA7AA


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Zoran Brlecic September 19th 03 05:10 AM

W8CRZ wrote:
I have a 3-500z tube and just want to make a conversation piece out of it. I
am going to make a wood base for it and I would also like to feed some
current into it just to make it glow.I was told it was possible but he
wasn't sure how or which pins to do it with.


Pins 1 and 5.

Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow?


Yes, you do.

Would 12 volt work?


For a very, very limited time, providing your 12V supply is capable of
dishing out 40A. If it's not, it would either clamp down to the maximum
current or trip the breaker.

If all you want to do is make it appear that it's glowing, build in a
few LEDs into the wood base. None will be the wiser.


73 .... WA7AA


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W8CRZ September 19th 03 05:49 AM

help with 3-500z tube
 
I have a 3-500z tube and just want to make a conversation piece out of it. I
am going to make a wood base for it and I would also like to feed some
current into it just to make it glow.I was told it was possible but he
wasn't sure how or which pins to do it with. Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow? Would 12 volt work?
Thanks
Rob W8CRZ



Scott Schrader September 19th 03 08:03 AM

isn't that going to get it hot enough in time to crack the seals? had
some guys working up a linear in 1971 at NDSU that just had the
filaments on a pair of 4-400s without the fan on, and killed 'em with an
ugly, loud cracking noise.

orange LEDs would be more authentic, I think, than red ones to make a
glow in the firebottle.

Dick Carroll wrote:

W8CRZ wrote:

I have a 3-500z tube and just want to make a conversation piece out of it. I
am going to make a wood base for it and I would also like to feed some
current into it just to make it glow.I was told it was possible but he
wasn't sure how or which pins to do it with. Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow? Would 12 volt work?
Thanks
Rob W8CRZ


You sure don't want to put 12 volts on it unless you want to burn out the
filament. It needs 5 volts. The transformer will have to supply the 14.5 amps or
it will not hold up, either. There are 5 volt transformers out there which have
no center tap that can be bought pretty cheap since they won't work out easily
for use in an amplfier..

Dick


-- If it's a "new economy," why do they want my obsolete old money?

Scott Schrader September 19th 03 08:03 AM

isn't that going to get it hot enough in time to crack the seals? had
some guys working up a linear in 1971 at NDSU that just had the
filaments on a pair of 4-400s without the fan on, and killed 'em with an
ugly, loud cracking noise.

orange LEDs would be more authentic, I think, than red ones to make a
glow in the firebottle.

Dick Carroll wrote:

W8CRZ wrote:

I have a 3-500z tube and just want to make a conversation piece out of it. I
am going to make a wood base for it and I would also like to feed some
current into it just to make it glow.I was told it was possible but he
wasn't sure how or which pins to do it with. Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow? Would 12 volt work?
Thanks
Rob W8CRZ


You sure don't want to put 12 volts on it unless you want to burn out the
filament. It needs 5 volts. The transformer will have to supply the 14.5 amps or
it will not hold up, either. There are 5 volt transformers out there which have
no center tap that can be bought pretty cheap since they won't work out easily
for use in an amplfier..

Dick


-- If it's a "new economy," why do they want my obsolete old money?

Bob September 19th 03 06:12 PM

I suggest applying a lower potential, say 4 Volts. That would make the glow
a more orange color, maybe more impressive, without risk to the filament and
a lower bulb temperature.

On the other hand, are you sure this tube is defective? Good tubes are
worth around $100 and I'm sure you can find a shorted one for very little.

Due to the high current drawn by the filament, it's common for a poor socket
contact to cause excessive heat at the tube pin, melting the solder and
causing the filament to go out. There are many tubes out there that have
been scrapped with the thought that the filament is burned out, when in fact
the tubes are repairable. (I just repaired one for a fellow amateur.)

Bob



Bob September 19th 03 06:12 PM

I suggest applying a lower potential, say 4 Volts. That would make the glow
a more orange color, maybe more impressive, without risk to the filament and
a lower bulb temperature.

On the other hand, are you sure this tube is defective? Good tubes are
worth around $100 and I'm sure you can find a shorted one for very little.

Due to the high current drawn by the filament, it's common for a poor socket
contact to cause excessive heat at the tube pin, melting the solder and
causing the filament to go out. There are many tubes out there that have
been scrapped with the thought that the filament is burned out, when in fact
the tubes are repairable. (I just repaired one for a fellow amateur.)

Bob



Frank Dinger October 17th 03 12:54 PM

Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow? Would 12 volt

work?
======
Having a 5 volts filament ,requiring 14.5 Amperes ,would make it a nice 70 +
Watts (anti-condensation) heater.

Applying 12V would turn it in a 'RIP state' within a few seconds.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH



Frank Dinger October 17th 03 12:54 PM

Also I know it is a 5 volt tube
and 14.5 amp.do I really need that much to make it glow? Would 12 volt

work?
======
Having a 5 volts filament ,requiring 14.5 Amperes ,would make it a nice 70 +
Watts (anti-condensation) heater.

Applying 12V would turn it in a 'RIP state' within a few seconds.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH




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