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Old November 4th 03, 05:06 AM
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Mike Coslo wrote in
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Alun Palmer wrote:


I will probably be dropped soon, but the FCC has to go through
standard procedures with all the pending petitions. The international
requirement was dropped on July 5th, so by next July it should
probably be gone in the US.


Hehhe. Alun, you should be on the welcoming committee for this
dude!

- Mike KB3EIA -



It's a difficult question. Do we applaud him for wanting to go legal? Or
do we slam him for ever having operated illegally? I have known former
pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after they got a
licence was exemplary.
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Old November 4th 03, 07:46 AM
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"W7TI" wrote in message
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On 4 Nov 2003 05:06:02 GMT, Alun Palmer wrote:

I have known former
pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after they got a
licence was exemplary.


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Not sure what an "ooperator" is, but there are other criminals whose
subsequent behavior is also exemplary. Should their past behavior be
ignored? The difference is only in degree, not in kind.


If they have already been punished in some way by the courts, then the
answer to your query is (or should be) yes. If they have not been punished
in some way by the courts, then, de facto, they have not been found guilty
of any crime, and are to be presumed innocent.



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"W7TI" wrote in message
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On 4 Nov 2003 05:06:02 GMT, Alun Palmer wrote:

I have known former
pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after they got a
licence was exemplary.


__________________________________________________ _______

Not sure what an "ooperator" is, but there are other criminals whose
subsequent behavior is also exemplary. Should their past behavior be
ignored? The difference is only in degree, not in kind.


If they have already been punished in some way by the courts, then the
answer to your query is (or should be) yes. If they have not been punished
in some way by the courts, then, de facto, they have not been found guilty
of any crime, and are to be presumed innocent.



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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:46:35 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
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If they have already been punished in some way by the courts, then the
answer to your query is (or should be) yes. If they have not been

punished
in some way by the courts, then, de facto, they have not been found

guilty
of any crime, and are to be presumed innocent.


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What a great concept! If they've been punished, then hands off. If
they've NOT been punished, then hands off also.

I'd say you're a natural-born criminal lawyer (in both senses of the
word).


It's our system of law. They taught it to us in junior high school social
studies. I know I'm getting old, but I don't think things have changed all
that much...



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"W7TI" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:46:35 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:

If they have already been punished in some way by the courts, then the
answer to your query is (or should be) yes. If they have not been

punished
in some way by the courts, then, de facto, they have not been found

guilty
of any crime, and are to be presumed innocent.


__________________________________________________ _______

What a great concept! If they've been punished, then hands off. If
they've NOT been punished, then hands off also.

I'd say you're a natural-born criminal lawyer (in both senses of the
word).


It's our system of law. They taught it to us in junior high school social
studies. I know I'm getting old, but I don't think things have changed all
that much...





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Old November 4th 03, 08:28 PM
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Alun Palmer wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
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Alun Palmer wrote:



I will probably be dropped soon, but the FCC has to go through
standard procedures with all the pending petitions. The international
requirement was dropped on July 5th, so by next July it should
probably be gone in the US.


Hehhe. Alun, you should be on the welcoming committee for this
dude!

- Mike KB3EIA -




It's a difficult question. Do we applaud him for wanting to go legal? Or
do we slam him for ever having operated illegally? I have known former
pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after they got a
licence was exemplary.


Then let us hope that he is a shining beacon of behavior for the cause
of those who do away for the code test!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old November 4th 03, 08:28 PM
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Alun Palmer wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
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Alun Palmer wrote:



I will probably be dropped soon, but the FCC has to go through
standard procedures with all the pending petitions. The international
requirement was dropped on July 5th, so by next July it should
probably be gone in the US.


Hehhe. Alun, you should be on the welcoming committee for this
dude!

- Mike KB3EIA -




It's a difficult question. Do we applaud him for wanting to go legal? Or
do we slam him for ever having operated illegally? I have known former
pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after they got a
licence was exemplary.


Then let us hope that he is a shining beacon of behavior for the cause
of those who do away for the code test!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old November 4th 03, 11:58 PM
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Mike Coslo wrote:
Alun Palmer wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
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Alun Palmer wrote:



I will probably be dropped soon, but the FCC has to go through
standard procedures with all the pending petitions. The international
requirement was dropped on July 5th, so by next July it should
probably be gone in the US.

Hehhe. Alun, you should be on the welcoming committee for this
dude!

- Mike KB3EIA -




It's a difficult question. Do we applaud him for wanting to go legal?
Or do we slam him for ever having operated illegally? I have known
former pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after
they got a licence was exemplary.


Then let us hope that he is a shining beacon of behavior for the
cause of those who do away for the code test!

- Mike KB3EIA -

It will be like the Cingular commercial.."can you hear me now?" g
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Old November 4th 03, 11:58 PM
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Mike Coslo wrote:
Alun Palmer wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
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Alun Palmer wrote:



I will probably be dropped soon, but the FCC has to go through
standard procedures with all the pending petitions. The international
requirement was dropped on July 5th, so by next July it should
probably be gone in the US.

Hehhe. Alun, you should be on the welcoming committee for this
dude!

- Mike KB3EIA -




It's a difficult question. Do we applaud him for wanting to go legal?
Or do we slam him for ever having operated illegally? I have known
former pirate radio ooperators whose behaviour on the ham bands after
they got a licence was exemplary.


Then let us hope that he is a shining beacon of behavior for the
cause of those who do away for the code test!

- Mike KB3EIA -

It will be like the Cingular commercial.."can you hear me now?" g
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Steveo wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
Then let us hope that he is a shining beacon of behavior for
the cause of those who do away for the code test!

- Mike KB3EIA -

It will be like the Cingular commercial.."can you hear me now?" g

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