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Are these any good for RF use or should they go into the trash?
It depends on what they were doing on that motherboard. If they were part of an RF interference filter, they may have other RF uses. If they were the energy storage inductor in a switching regulator, they may have their best performance under 1 MHz. You might look up some of the common color codes and standard core sizes, and measure the inductance and calculate the permeability of your cores to see if they match any of the code specs. This could help to nail down the useful frequency range. ================================ A practical way to determine suitability at HF and higher is to fit the toroid with a bifilar winding ,being the primary and secondary of a transformer. Connect a signal generator to one winding and a RF millivolt meter or scope to the other. By changing the frequency you quickly know in which frequency range the toroid will be useful. Usually 'blue' coloured toroids are ferrites for the lower frequencies serving in SMPSes and AC supply filters. Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH |
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PaoloC wrote:
Motherboards and other circuits have some/many pass-through ferrite beads which I find very useful to recycle as RF-block inductors in my circuits. (snip) Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low frequency power types measure in the hundred or thousands of ohms between contact points, RF suppression types measure in the high kilo ohms, while high Q RF types measure in the meg ohms. Having a few known samples for calibration purposes helps. -- John Popelish |
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PaoloC wrote:
Motherboards and other circuits have some/many pass-through ferrite beads which I find very useful to recycle as RF-block inductors in my circuits. (snip) Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low frequency power types measure in the hundred or thousands of ohms between contact points, RF suppression types measure in the high kilo ohms, while high Q RF types measure in the meg ohms. Having a few known samples for calibration purposes helps. -- John Popelish |
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John Popelish wrote:
Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm OUCH! I never thought ferrite beads could end up in such a complete catalog! I feel quite stupid :-) I'm reading the PDF as fast as kids do with Harry Potter's latest adventures :-) You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low [snip] Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) Paolo ik1zyw |
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John Popelish wrote:
Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm OUCH! I never thought ferrite beads could end up in such a complete catalog! I feel quite stupid :-) I'm reading the PDF as fast as kids do with Harry Potter's latest adventures :-) You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low [snip] Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) Paolo ik1zyw |
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PaoloC wrote:
(snip) Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) You are welcome. And it is nice to have a drink waiting. -- John Popelish |
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PaoloC wrote:
(snip) Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) You are welcome. And it is nice to have a drink waiting. -- John Popelish |