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John Popelish wrote:
Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm OUCH! I never thought ferrite beads could end up in such a complete catalog! I feel quite stupid :-) I'm reading the PDF as fast as kids do with Harry Potter's latest adventures :-) You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low [snip] Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) Paolo ik1zyw |
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PaoloC wrote:
(snip) Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) You are welcome. And it is nice to have a drink waiting. -- John Popelish |
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PaoloC wrote:
(snip) Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) You are welcome. And it is nice to have a drink waiting. -- John Popelish |
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John Popelish wrote:
Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm OUCH! I never thought ferrite beads could end up in such a complete catalog! I feel quite stupid :-) I'm reading the PDF as fast as kids do with Harry Potter's latest adventures :-) You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low [snip] Thanks for the extra-useful tips John. I owe you a drink if you happen to pass by here :-) Paolo ik1zyw |
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PaoloC wrote:
Motherboards and other circuits have some/many pass-through ferrite beads which I find very useful to recycle as RF-block inductors in my circuits. (snip) Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. (snip) Fair-rite makes many of these beads, and their catalog has some impedance versus frequency data for them: http://www.fair-rite.com/products.htm You can also roughly sort ferrite material roughly versus frequency capability by measuring the resistance with an ohm meter. Low frequency power types measure in the hundred or thousands of ohms between contact points, RF suppression types measure in the high kilo ohms, while high Q RF types measure in the meg ohms. Having a few known samples for calibration purposes helps. -- John Popelish |
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It's likely that they'd be ok for making RF chokes, broadband
transformers, and baluns, and for EMI suppression, and that they wouldn't be suitable for use as inductors in tuned circuits, oscillator tanks, or anywhere that Q or temperature sensitivity are a factor. You can put one or more turns on a core and measure its impedance (R and X) by a number of means -- signal generator and scope, impedance bridge, or antenna analyzer. For the applications I listed they'd be likely to be suitable for, you want the highest impedance per turn squared possible -- it doesn't matter whether it's R or X unless you're dealing with a lot of power. For tuned circuit inductors, you need high Q, that is, high series X/R ratio. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Roger Conroy wrote: Hello all I can scavenge components from junked motherboards - most are fairly easy to id. EXCEPT: Many of the boards have small "donut" ferrites pianted light green all over with one "sidewall" blue. They are all located in the power supply/regulation section of the m/boards. most boards have only one but occasionally there are 2 of them. Are these any good for RF use or should they go into the trash? 73 Roger ZR3RC |
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Roger Conroy wrote:
A comment slightly off the original subject, but might be of use to others. Are these any good for RF use or should they go into the trash? Motherboards and other circuits have some/many pass-through ferrite beads which I find very useful to recycle as RF-block inductors in my circuits. In dead-bug construction style the use of these beads is very easy, and usually kills unwanted RF propagation channels (such as power supply lines to/from oscillator, buffer, amplifier, ...). Unfortunately I have never been able to find any datasheet for those beads. Roger, please post your results if you try your "donuts" for RF applications. 73, Paolo ZYW |