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http://www.kbt-dc-supplies.com/index.php gb "Uwe Langmesser" wrote in message ... I need a 12-14 V power supply for my new 2m tranceiver. On transmit I need probably 10 to 15 amps and I hooked up and old transformer with a rectifier and a filter section I get 15V at my filter with no load, the transformer is good for 25 amps) but if I draw 15 amps I will get too much ripple, so I need a regulating section. Homebrewing is called for. Last years radio amateur handbook has a design for a 28 volt regulated power supply and while I would feel comfortable building a proven design I do not feel comfortable to redesign that regulating section for my needs. So the question is does anyone have a diagram for a proven 12-14 Volt regulated supply for 10 to 25 amps?? Thanks for your help Uwe |
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http://www.kbt-dc-supplies.com/index.php gb "Uwe Langmesser" wrote in message ... I need a 12-14 V power supply for my new 2m tranceiver. On transmit I need probably 10 to 15 amps and I hooked up and old transformer with a rectifier and a filter section I get 15V at my filter with no load, the transformer is good for 25 amps) but if I draw 15 amps I will get too much ripple, so I need a regulating section. Homebrewing is called for. Last years radio amateur handbook has a design for a 28 volt regulated power supply and while I would feel comfortable building a proven design I do not feel comfortable to redesign that regulating section for my needs. So the question is does anyone have a diagram for a proven 12-14 Volt regulated supply for 10 to 25 amps?? Thanks for your help Uwe |
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![]() Uwe Langmesser wrote: I need a 12-14 V power supply for my new 2m tranceiver. On transmit I need probably 10 to 15 amps and I hooked up and old transformer with a rectifier and a filter section I get 15V at my filter with no load, the transformer is good for 25 amps) but if I draw 15 amps I will get too much ripple, so I need a regulating section. Homebrewing is called for. Last years radio amateur handbook has a design for a 28 volt regulated power supply and while I would feel comfortable building a proven design I do not feel comfortable to redesign that regulating section for my needs. So the question is does anyone have a diagram for a proven 12-14 Volt regulated supply for 10 to 25 amps?? Thanks for your help Uwe Your transformer secondary does not produce enough voltage. First, solve that problem. You need a hefty transformer, at least 15 volts on the secondary at the required amperage. Your DC voltage across the filter cap will be about 1.4 times the secondary voltage. The 723 circuits are great - but you can get all you need from a 3 terminal LM 317 and a couple of support components - a simpler circuit than a 723. Add a full wave rectifier, and a lot of capacitance - I used 50,000 uf. Then, for the regulator, use an LM317 in collector wraparound with a hefty heatsink and 4 or more power transistors, with emitter equalizing resistors. That's what I did, years ago. 4 2N3055's on a huge heatsink and an LM317 on its own heatsink. I used 4 .1 ohm 10 watt emitter resistors. If you figure 7 amps per transistor, the emitter resistors would have to dissipate 7^2 *.1 or 4.9 watts. Each 2N3055 is capable of ~115 watts when used with a proper heatsink. At 18 volts, my rectifier/filter caps yield about 25.2 volts DC. The wattage to be dissipated, worst case, is (25.2 - 13.8) * 25 or 285 watts. I have no ripple problems and pretty good regulation, no load to full load at about 10 amps. I haven't used the supply with a rig that draws more than that, so I can't say how well it would regulate at 25 amps, but I think it would work well. What is really nice is that you can use almost all the parts in the above in a regulator with a 723 if you decide to, and you're out only the cost of the LM317 and support components not mentioned above - a few resistors, caps and a diode - less than ~ 3 bucks. An example of the "collector wraparound" technique can be seen on page 13 of the following url: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM340.pdf It's title is "High Current Voltage Regulator" It shows only 1 pass transistor - to add more, place them in parallel with the one shown, with one equalizing resistor in series with the emitter of each transistor. You can substitute a 7812 regulator for the 317 if you want - just put 2 diodes in series with the ground leg of the 7812 to get about 13.4 V out. |
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![]() Uwe Langmesser wrote: I need a 12-14 V power supply for my new 2m tranceiver. On transmit I need probably 10 to 15 amps and I hooked up and old transformer with a rectifier and a filter section I get 15V at my filter with no load, the transformer is good for 25 amps) but if I draw 15 amps I will get too much ripple, so I need a regulating section. Homebrewing is called for. Last years radio amateur handbook has a design for a 28 volt regulated power supply and while I would feel comfortable building a proven design I do not feel comfortable to redesign that regulating section for my needs. So the question is does anyone have a diagram for a proven 12-14 Volt regulated supply for 10 to 25 amps?? Thanks for your help Uwe Your transformer secondary does not produce enough voltage. First, solve that problem. You need a hefty transformer, at least 15 volts on the secondary at the required amperage. Your DC voltage across the filter cap will be about 1.4 times the secondary voltage. The 723 circuits are great - but you can get all you need from a 3 terminal LM 317 and a couple of support components - a simpler circuit than a 723. Add a full wave rectifier, and a lot of capacitance - I used 50,000 uf. Then, for the regulator, use an LM317 in collector wraparound with a hefty heatsink and 4 or more power transistors, with emitter equalizing resistors. That's what I did, years ago. 4 2N3055's on a huge heatsink and an LM317 on its own heatsink. I used 4 .1 ohm 10 watt emitter resistors. If you figure 7 amps per transistor, the emitter resistors would have to dissipate 7^2 *.1 or 4.9 watts. Each 2N3055 is capable of ~115 watts when used with a proper heatsink. At 18 volts, my rectifier/filter caps yield about 25.2 volts DC. The wattage to be dissipated, worst case, is (25.2 - 13.8) * 25 or 285 watts. I have no ripple problems and pretty good regulation, no load to full load at about 10 amps. I haven't used the supply with a rig that draws more than that, so I can't say how well it would regulate at 25 amps, but I think it would work well. What is really nice is that you can use almost all the parts in the above in a regulator with a 723 if you decide to, and you're out only the cost of the LM317 and support components not mentioned above - a few resistors, caps and a diode - less than ~ 3 bucks. An example of the "collector wraparound" technique can be seen on page 13 of the following url: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM340.pdf It's title is "High Current Voltage Regulator" It shows only 1 pass transistor - to add more, place them in parallel with the one shown, with one equalizing resistor in series with the emitter of each transistor. You can substitute a 7812 regulator for the 317 if you want - just put 2 diodes in series with the ground leg of the 7812 to get about 13.4 V out. |
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![]() wrote: Uwe Langmesser wrote: I need a 12-14 V power supply for my new 2m tranceiver. On transmit I need probably 10 to 15 amps and I hooked up and old transformer with a rectifier and a filter section I get 15V at my filter with no load, the transformer is good for 25 amps) but if I draw 15 amps I will get too much ripple, so I need a regulating section. Homebrewing is called for. Last years radio amateur handbook has a design for a 28 volt regulated power supply and while I would feel comfortable building a proven design I do not feel comfortable to redesign that regulating section for my needs. So the question is does anyone have a diagram for a proven 12-14 Volt regulated supply for 10 to 25 amps?? Thanks for your help Uwe Your transformer secondary does not produce enough voltage. First, solve that problem. You need a hefty transformer, at least 15 volts on the secondary at the required amperage. Your DC voltage across the filter cap will be about 1.4 times the secondary voltage. The 723 circuits are great - but you can get all you need from a 3 terminal LM 317 and a couple of support components - a simpler circuit than a 723. Add a full wave rectifier, and a lot of capacitance - I used 50,000 uf. Then, for the regulator, use an LM317 in collector wraparound with a hefty heatsink and 4 or more power transistors, with emitter equalizing resistors. That's what I did, years ago. 4 2N3055's Make that 4 2N2955's (not 3055's) on a huge heatsink and an LM317 on its own heatsink. I used 4 .1 ohm 10 watt emitter resistors. If you figure 7 amps per transistor, the emitter resistors would have to dissipate 7^2 *.1 or 4.9 watts. Each 2N3055 is capable of ~115 watts when used with a proper heatsink. At 18 volts, my rectifier/filter caps yield about 25.2 volts DC. The wattage to be dissipated, worst case, is (25.2 - 13.8) * 25 or 285 watts. I have no ripple problems and pretty good regulation, no load to full load at about 10 amps. I haven't used the supply with a rig that draws more than that, so I can't say how well it would regulate at 25 amps, but I think it would work well. What is really nice is that you can use almost all the parts in the above in a regulator with a 723 if you decide to, and you're out only the cost of the LM317 and support components not mentioned above - a few resistors, caps and a diode - less than ~ 3 bucks. An example of the "collector wraparound" technique can be seen on page 13 of the following url: http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM340.pdf It's title is "High Current Voltage Regulator" It shows only 1 pass transistor - to add more, place them in parallel with the one shown, with one equalizing resistor in series with the emitter of each transistor. You can substitute a 7812 regulator for the 317 if you want - just put 2 diodes in series with the ground leg of the 7812 to get about 13.4 V out. |
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