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On the basis that someone must manufacture the things in the first place,
has anyone much experience of disassembling volume controls and the like to deal with scratchiness, for AIUI, injecting WD40 although seeming to provide an interim solution (sic) only stores up problems for the future. |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, gareth wrote:
On the basis that someone must manufacture the things in the first place, has anyone much experience of disassembling volume controls and the like to deal with scratchiness, for AIUI, injecting WD40 although seeming to provide an interim solution (sic) only stores up problems for the future. WD40 is not a good choice, though some may have used it in emergencies. IT depends on the potentiometer. A lot of the old ones could be pried open, little tabs at the front. But there are also fancier ones that are sealed up in plastic casing, I'm not sure if those can be opened, though hopefully some of the dirt problem is fixed. Maybe drilling a tiny hole (like for component leads on a circuit board) and then dripping some cleaner in would work? Michael |
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On 11/22/2015 1:45 PM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, gareth wrote: On the basis that someone must manufacture the things in the first place, has anyone much experience of disassembling volume controls and the like to deal with scratchiness, for AIUI, injecting WD40 although seeming to provide an interim solution (sic) only stores up problems for the future. WD40 is not a good choice, though some may have used it in emergencies. IT depends on the potentiometer. A lot of the old ones could be pried open, little tabs at the front. But there are also fancier ones that are sealed up in plastic casing, I'm not sure if those can be opened, though hopefully some of the dirt problem is fixed. Maybe drilling a tiny hole (like for component leads on a circuit board) and then dripping some cleaner in would work? Michael I remember some 40+ years ago when I part-timed for a CB shop. A guy brought in a radio with a broken squelch control. His son tried to fix it with WD-40 or something similar. Of course, it didn't work (taking the control apart, the wiper was broken). Charged him $15 for the repair (remember this was a long time ago!) and $25 to clean up the oil all over the case. I doubt his son tried that one again! -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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In message , Jerry Stuckle
writes On 11/22/2015 1:45 PM, Michael Black wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, gareth wrote: On the basis that someone must manufacture the things in the first place, has anyone much experience of disassembling volume controls and the like to deal with scratchiness, for AIUI, injecting WD40 although seeming to provide an interim solution (sic) only stores up problems for the future. WD40 is not a good choice, though some may have used it in emergencies. IT depends on the potentiometer. A lot of the old ones could be pried open, little tabs at the front. But there are also fancier ones that are sealed up in plastic casing, I'm not sure if those can be opened, though hopefully some of the dirt problem is fixed. Maybe drilling a tiny hole (like for component leads on a circuit board) and then dripping some cleaner in would work? Michael I remember some 40+ years ago when I part-timed for a CB shop. A guy brought in a radio with a broken squelch control. His son tried to fix it with WD-40 or something similar. Of course, it didn't work (taking the control apart, the wiper was broken). WD40's good - but not good enough to mend broken wipers! Charged him $15 for the repair (remember this was a long time ago!) and $25 to clean up the oil all over the case. I doubt his son tried that one again! On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. -- Ian |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511221343390.19205@darkstar. example.org... On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, gareth wrote: On the basis that someone must manufacture the things in the first place, has anyone much experience of disassembling volume controls and the like to deal with scratchiness, for AIUI, injecting WD40 although seeming to provide an interim solution (sic) only stores up problems for the future. WD40 is not a good choice, though some may have used it in emergencies. IT depends on the potentiometer. A lot of the old ones could be pried open, little tabs at the front. But there are also fancier ones that are sealed up in plastic casing, I'm not sure if those can be opened, though hopefully some of the dirt problem is fixed. Maybe drilling a tiny hole (like for component leads on a circuit board) and then dripping some cleaner in would work? It's the dual gang vol / tone on an FRG7700, which is a plumber's nightmare of disassembly, so I want to be sure of my route before setting out on it. |
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En el artículo , Ian Jackson
escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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gareth wrote:
It's the dual gang vol / tone on an FRG7700, which is a plumber's nightmare of disassembly, so I want to be sure of my route before setting out on it. I have had good results with old volume controls by carefully putting ONE DROP of the red DeOxit liquid inside and ONE DROP of their "fader lube". Slowly move it from low to high and back again a few times with the power off. Occasionally, I have had to repeat it several times, but never more than one drop at a time. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 |
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In message , Mike Tomlinson
writes En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Unfortunately, the last time I saw my Electrolube dispenser (with the pull-out nozzle) was over 40 years ago - but I've always got some WD40 (or similar) at hand. Actually, white spirit etc also works, and has the advantage (or disadvantage) of eventually leaving no lubrication. -- Ian |
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On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:12:50 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. Correct..Servisol is the way to go. But if the track is worn or damaged then replacement is the only long term solution. |
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"Rambo" wrote in message
... Correct..Servisol is the way to go. But if the track is worn or damaged then replacement is the only long term solution. But someone must have manufactured the track in the first place, so it should not be beyond the bounds of possibility for us to attempt such. |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:25:29 -0000, "gareth"
wrote: "Rambo" wrote in message .. . Correct..Servisol is the way to go. But if the track is worn or damaged then replacement is the only long term solution. But someone must have manufactured the track in the first place, so it should not be beyond the bounds of possibility for us to attempt such. Well it's going to very difficult to find and if you do it'll be very expensive to buy an OEM part. |
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 23:19:48 +0000, Rambo
wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:25:29 -0000, "gareth" wrote: "Rambo" wrote in message . .. Correct..Servisol is the way to go. But if the track is worn or damaged then replacement is the only long term solution. But someone must have manufactured the track in the first place, so it should not be beyond the bounds of possibility for us to attempt such. Well it's going to very difficult to find and if you do it'll be very expensive to buy an OEM part. I will admit to owning one of these in the past... http://foxtango.org/frg7700/FRoG-7700.htm may be usefull. |
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"Rambo" wrote in message
... On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:25:29 -0000, "gareth" wrote: "Rambo" wrote in message . .. Correct..Servisol is the way to go. But if the track is worn or damaged then replacement is the only long term solution. But someone must have manufactured the track in the first place, so it should not be beyond the bounds of possibility for us to attempt such. Well it's going to very difficult to find and if you do it'll be very expensive to buy an OEM part. No, I meant to try to manufacture such a part ourselves. |
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"Rambo" wrote in message
... On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 23:19:48 +0000, Rambo wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:25:29 -0000, "gareth" wrote: "Rambo" wrote in message ... Correct..Servisol is the way to go. But if the track is worn or damaged then replacement is the only long term solution. But someone must have manufactured the track in the first place, so it should not be beyond the bounds of possibility for us to attempt such. Well it's going to very difficult to find and if you do it'll be very expensive to buy an OEM part. I will admit to owning one of these in the past... http://foxtango.org/frg7700/FRoG-7700.htm may be usefull. I have the maintenance manual for it plus the ATU and the 2m converter. |
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On 22/11/2015 20:41, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jerry Stuckle writes On 11/22/2015 1:45 PM, Michael Black wrote: On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, gareth wrote: On the basis that someone must manufacture the things in the first place, has anyone much experience of disassembling volume controls and the like to deal with scratchiness, for AIUI, injecting WD40 although seeming to provide an interim solution (sic) only stores up problems for the future. WD40 is not a good choice, though some may have used it in emergencies. IT depends on the potentiometer. A lot of the old ones could be pried open, little tabs at the front. But there are also fancier ones that are sealed up in plastic casing, I'm not sure if those can be opened, though hopefully some of the dirt problem is fixed. Maybe drilling a tiny hole (like for component leads on a circuit board) and then dripping some cleaner in would work? Michael I remember some 40+ years ago when I part-timed for a CB shop. A guy brought in a radio with a broken squelch control. His son tried to fix it with WD-40 or something similar. Of course, it didn't work (taking the control apart, the wiper was broken). WD40's good - but not good enough to mend broken wipers! Charged him $15 for the repair (remember this was a long time ago!) and $25 to clean up the oil all over the case. I doubt his son tried that one again! On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. me too I also ... +1 -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A live with it |
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On 22/11/2015 20:41, Ian Jackson wrote:
On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. also good for squeaky fan belts in cars...increases their life .... ..... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A live with it |
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On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A live with it |
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On 11/23/2015 2:26 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... It figures YOU would. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 23/11/2015 13:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/23/2015 2:26 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... It figures YOU would. yes what ever works well ... ignore the "experts" ..... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A live with it |
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On 11/23/2015 8:23 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 23/11/2015 13:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2015 2:26 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... It figures YOU would. yes what ever works well ... ignore the "experts" ..... Ignore the "idiots". -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 23/11/2015 14:29, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/23/2015 8:23 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 23/11/2015 13:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2015 2:26 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... It figures YOU would. yes what ever works well ... ignore the "experts" ..... Ignore the "idiots". what ever works for you ... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A live with it |
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On 11/23/2015 9:36 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 23/11/2015 14:29, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2015 8:23 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 23/11/2015 13:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2015 2:26 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... It figures YOU would. yes what ever works well ... ignore the "experts" ..... Ignore the "idiots". what ever works for you ... Yes, I prefer the advice of professionals with many years of experience to that of idiots. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 23/11/2015 15:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/23/2015 9:36 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 23/11/2015 14:29, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2015 8:23 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 23/11/2015 13:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2015 2:26 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 22/11/2015 22:12, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/22/2015 4:05 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Ian Jackson escribió: On the occasions when I've used WD40 on pots, fan bearings etc, it hasn't caused any subsequent problems. "proper" contact cleaner works better and doesn't pick up contaminants like WD40 does. But, of course, you must use it vary sparingly. Indeed, and at the force it comes out of the can, that can be tricky. Spraying it into a small snootiness and using the tip of a screwdriver to transfer it works. But for pots, switches, etc., it's still better to use contact cleaner made for the job. Exactly. I would never use WD40 on an electrical/electronic device. I would and do all the time ...... It figures YOU would. yes what ever works well ... ignore the "experts" ..... Ignore the "idiots". what ever works for you ... Yes, I prefer the advice of professionals with many years of experience to that of idiots. I don't ......I find "idiots" know what they are talking about .... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A live with it |
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On 23/11/2015 16:14, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 23/11/2015 15:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, I prefer the advice of professionals with many years of experience to that of idiots. I don't ......I find "idiots" know what they are talking about .... Strangely enough I see the word /amateur/ in the newsgroup names but nowhere do I see /professional/. -- Mouse. Where Morse meets House. |
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On 23/11/2015 16:39, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 23/11/2015 16:14, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 23/11/2015 15:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, I prefer the advice of professionals with many years of experience to that of idiots. I don't ......I find "idiots" know what they are talking about .... Strangely enough I see the word /amateur/ in the newsgroup names but nowhere do I see /professional/. yes...professionals should be banned anyway.... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A radio hams do exist I was never beat up I never asked to join the freemasons |
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2015, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 23/11/2015 16:39, A. non Eyemouse wrote: On 23/11/2015 16:14, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 23/11/2015 15:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, I prefer the advice of professionals with many years of experience to that of idiots. I don't ......I find "idiots" know what they are talking about .... Strangely enough I see the word /amateur/ in the newsgroup names but nowhere do I see /professional/. yes...professionals should be banned anyway.... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. You can get beginners, you can get fools, but you can also get people who know an awful lot, sometimes I think some have been the expert in the field despite not getting paid. Michael |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511231421430.21011@darkstar. example.org... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. Au contraire, for it has always been about being a lover of the art, so that even a professional can be an amateur given the right positive mindset |
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In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew gareth wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511231421430.21011@darkstar. example.org... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. Au contraire, for it has always been about being a lover of the art, so that even a professional can be an amateur given the right positive mindset amateur noun : a person who does something (such as a sport or hobby) for pleasure and not as a job professional adjective : paid to participate in a sport or activity http://www.merriam-webster.com/ -- Jim Pennino |
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"gareth" wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511231421430.21011@darkstar. example.org... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. Au contraire, for it has always been about being a lover of the art, so that even a professional can be an amateur given the right positive mindset Rank amateur in your case, Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511231421430.21011@darkstar. example.org... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. Au contraire, for it has always been about being a lover of the art, so that even a professional can be an amateur given the right positive mindset Rank amateur in your case, Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW. Positive mind set, how hypocritical can Evans get? |
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A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 23/11/2015 19:35, wrote: In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew gareth wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511231421430.21011@darkstar. example.org... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. Au contraire, for it has always been about being a lover of the art, so that even a professional can be an amateur given the right positive mindset amateur noun a person who does something (such as a sport or hobby) for pleasure and not as a job adjective - taking ​part in an ​activity for ​pleasure, not as a ​job professional adjective paid to participate in a sport or activity noun - a ​person who has the ​type of ​job that ​needs a high ​level of ​ education and ​training http://www.merriam-webster.com/ http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...nglish/amateur http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...h/professional So those who falsely claim to the Dr title or pretend to be legally trained are not professionals. Assuming they even work. |
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On 25/11/2015 12:27, Brian Reay wrote:
A. non Eyemouse wrote: On 23/11/2015 19:35, wrote: In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew gareth wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1511231421430.21011@darkstar. example.org... "Amateur" had never referred to quality, it's always been about not making money from it. Au contraire, for it has always been about being a lover of the art, so that even a professional can be an amateur given the right positive mindset amateur noun a person who does something (such as a sport or hobby) for pleasure and not as a job adjective - taking ​part in an ​activity for ​pleasure, not as a ​job professional adjective paid to participate in a sport or activity noun - a ​person who has the ​type of ​job that ​needs a high ​level of ​ education and ​training http://www.merriam-webster.com/ http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...nglish/amateur http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...h/professional So those who falsely claim to the Dr title or pretend to be legally trained are not professionals. Assuming they even work. professionals are OK as long as they have a different hobby .... -- Man at Oxfam All things DIGITAL do not work No spare wheel isn't progress Class A radio hams do exist I was never beat up I never asked to join the freemasons |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
... Positive mind set, how hypocritical can Evans get? As always, the daily episode of spiteful abuse comes from you and from nobody else. Why do you behave like that; like a loser in the school plyaground who wasn't selected by either side to join their football team? |
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