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Ken Scharf February 8th 04 09:37 PM

Tom Holden wrote:
Fred McKenzie wrote:

Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII



Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom


You can probably find a surplus collins filter on ebay for about half
(or less) the cost of a new one. Fair Radio used to have 2.0 and 4.0
khz filters from the famous R390 receivers at about $25 or so.


Pete KE9OA February 9th 04 07:54 AM

Hi Tom,
Murata did get out of the high performance filter
business..................about the only things that they have now are the
4-element CFU series, and the 6-element CFWS (now CFLW) series.

Pete

"Tom Holden" wrote in message
...
Fred McKenzie wrote:
Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII


Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata

ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will

need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter

or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom





Pete KE9OA February 9th 04 07:54 AM

Hi Tom,
Murata did get out of the high performance filter
business..................about the only things that they have now are the
4-element CFU series, and the 6-element CFWS (now CFLW) series.

Pete

"Tom Holden" wrote in message
...
Fred McKenzie wrote:
Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII


Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata

ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will

need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter

or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom





Pete KE9OA February 9th 04 07:57 AM

You can still find the surplus filters, but the nice thing about the
526-8695 series is that they have an input/output Z of 2K, so you can
substitute these filters for the ceramic filters. Another good thing is that
these new Torsional Mode filters don't require any tuning caps at the I/O
pins.

Pete

"Ken Scharf" wrote in message
...
Tom Holden wrote:
Fred McKenzie wrote:

Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII



Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata

ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with

a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will

need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the

same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter

or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom


You can probably find a surplus collins filter on ebay for about half
(or less) the cost of a new one. Fair Radio used to have 2.0 and 4.0
khz filters from the famous R390 receivers at about $25 or so.




Pete KE9OA February 9th 04 07:57 AM

You can still find the surplus filters, but the nice thing about the
526-8695 series is that they have an input/output Z of 2K, so you can
substitute these filters for the ceramic filters. Another good thing is that
these new Torsional Mode filters don't require any tuning caps at the I/O
pins.

Pete

"Ken Scharf" wrote in message
...
Tom Holden wrote:
Fred McKenzie wrote:

Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII



Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata

ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with

a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will

need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the

same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter

or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom


You can probably find a surplus collins filter on ebay for about half
(or less) the cost of a new one. Fair Radio used to have 2.0 and 4.0
khz filters from the famous R390 receivers at about $25 or so.




Gary Schafer February 9th 04 04:22 PM

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:04:12 -0500, "Tom Holden"
wrote:

Fred McKenzie wrote:
Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII


Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom


Tom,

Look at the kiwa filters. They are pretty nice.

http://www.kiwa.com/kiwa455.html

73
Gary K4FMX

Gary Schafer February 9th 04 04:22 PM

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:04:12 -0500, "Tom Holden"
wrote:

Fred McKenzie wrote:
Pete, that's about as much as I paid for the receiver
I'm trying to improve! A Radio Shack DX-394

Tom-

I missed your original posting. What does the DX-394
currently use as an IF filter? If it happens to be made
by Murata (or maybe Panasonic), a replacement with better
specifications may available to fit in the same PCB
holes. Check your filter's part number with the
company's web site, and you may find a solution there.

However, if it uses the same filter for AM reception, a
tighter filter could reduce sound quality of music.

73, Fred, K4DII


Fred, thanks for your follow-up. The DX-394 has two 5-element Murata ceramic
filters, one 9kHz or wider for AM and one 6 kHz or wider for SSB/CW with a
BFO offset of +/-3.5kHz from 455kHz. That's why a narrower filter will need
a BFO mod. There does not appear to be a much narrower filter in the same
package and from what I understand Murata is out of the ceramic filter
business. So I guess I will have to keep an eye out for a surplus filter or
shell out $85 or so for a new 'economical' Collins!

Tom


Tom,

Look at the kiwa filters. They are pretty nice.

http://www.kiwa.com/kiwa455.html

73
Gary K4FMX


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