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In article , "Tom Holden"
writes: In researching desirable AGC characteristics that might be applied to the RS DX-394 over a year ago, I came across the terms 'delayed' and 'hang'. Thought they were interchangeable but on reading the ARRL 2004 Handbook, it seems that 'delayed' means that the attack speed on the RF stages is slower than on the IF stages or is relatively delayed. According to the HB, "This prevents a premature increase in the receiver noise figure". On the DX-394, I found and removed an electrolytic capacitor in the AGC line of the RF stages that has the effect of slowing the attack relative to that of the IF. Can't say I hear any difference with it out. I would have thought that we would want the AGC attack to be fast on all stages in order to avoid momentary overload. According to terms used a half century ago in tube-type receivers, "delayed AVC" (they used 'AVC' back then instead of 'AGC') just meant that AGC action is delayed from taking effect until the signal level rises above wide-open gain. Wasn't a time delay, but closer to "hold off" voltage of some sort on the AGC control voltage action. "Attack" and "decay" meant the time of response of the AGC, in the same manner as audio-only control circuitry for broadcast audio modulation input. "Attack" being the onset of a signal and subsequent audio gain reduction time..."decay" being the release time of any audio gain reduction control signal, that 'decaying' back to original high-gain amplification. I suspect that the original "delayed AVC" came about from two reasons: First was that 'communications receivers' of olden times usually tuned a rather wide band, usually 1:3 in frequency range and the non-AGC gain varied by almost the same amount as a result of tuned circuit impedance changes (tubes would amplify almost entirely by only voltage changes when running Class A). A hold-off on the AGC action handled the difference in overall gain at the extremes of tuning. Second, and I suspect the stronger reason, was that customers could hear the front end noise in the speakers (with AGC held totally off and gain wide open) and get the impression of a "really hot receiver!" :-) It's easy to get any kind of "delayed AGC" or hold-off on AGC control with a DC bias on the detector. As to the attack and decay times you specified, seems good to me. That can be set to suit the individual listener. Len Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
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