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Tom S March 29th 04 03:17 PM

Are these specs for hot switching? I would think that if you can figure out
a way to switch the relay THEN apply power, everything would be happy and
the contacts will last much longer.

Tom


"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "nick"
writes:

If a (let's say 12v) relay is rated for 10 amps @ 110 volts,
it will take 1100 watts.


It will take 1100 watts at 110 volts. But if you lower the voltage to,

say, 50
volts, and the contacts are still rated at 10 amps, it can only handle 500
watts. Etc.

Will it take 1000 watts of RF?

I would think not, but I don't know why.


Depends entirely on the RF characteristics - impedance, SWR, etc.

The trick is to exceed neither the voltage nor current ratings of the

contacts.
In a 50 ohm RF application with low SWR (less than 2:1), that relay is

probably
limited by its contact voltage rating, not the current rating. Which works

out
to about 200 watts.

73 de Jim, N2EY




nick March 30th 04 04:01 PM

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:17:57 -0600, Tom S wrote:

Are these specs for hot switching?


No, these would be for switching bands by selecting coil taps at
the base of a vertical.

I would think that if you can figure out
a way to switch the relay THEN apply power, everything would be happy and
the contacts will last much longer.


I agree, but I have a tendancy to destroy equipment :o


Tom


"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "nick"
writes:

If a (let's say 12v) relay is rated for 10 amps @ 110 volts,
it will take 1100 watts.


It will take 1100 watts at 110 volts. But if you lower the voltage to,

say, 50
volts, and the contacts are still rated at 10 amps, it can only handle 500
watts. Etc.

Will it take 1000 watts of RF?

I would think not, but I don't know why.


Depends entirely on the RF characteristics - impedance, SWR, etc.

The trick is to exceed neither the voltage nor current ratings of the

contacts.
In a 50 ohm RF application with low SWR (less than 2:1), that relay is

probably
limited by its contact voltage rating, not the current rating. Which works

out
to about 200 watts.

73 de Jim, N2EY



nick March 30th 04 04:01 PM

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:17:57 -0600, Tom S wrote:

Are these specs for hot switching?


No, these would be for switching bands by selecting coil taps at
the base of a vertical.

I would think that if you can figure out
a way to switch the relay THEN apply power, everything would be happy and
the contacts will last much longer.


I agree, but I have a tendancy to destroy equipment :o


Tom


"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "nick"
writes:

If a (let's say 12v) relay is rated for 10 amps @ 110 volts,
it will take 1100 watts.


It will take 1100 watts at 110 volts. But if you lower the voltage to,

say, 50
volts, and the contacts are still rated at 10 amps, it can only handle 500
watts. Etc.

Will it take 1000 watts of RF?

I would think not, but I don't know why.


Depends entirely on the RF characteristics - impedance, SWR, etc.

The trick is to exceed neither the voltage nor current ratings of the

contacts.
In a 50 ohm RF application with low SWR (less than 2:1), that relay is

probably
limited by its contact voltage rating, not the current rating. Which works

out
to about 200 watts.

73 de Jim, N2EY



[email protected] March 31st 04 11:40 PM



nick wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:17:57 -0600, Tom S wrote:

Are these specs for hot switching?


No, these would be for switching bands by selecting coil taps at
the base of a vertical.



The relay contacts can handle it fine, provided you
don't hot switch. You will introduce an impedance
bump in the transmission line. (The relay contacts and
associated wiring become part of the transmission line.)
Don't know how large that will be.

[email protected] March 31st 04 11:40 PM



nick wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:17:57 -0600, Tom S wrote:

Are these specs for hot switching?


No, these would be for switching bands by selecting coil taps at
the base of a vertical.



The relay contacts can handle it fine, provided you
don't hot switch. You will introduce an impedance
bump in the transmission line. (The relay contacts and
associated wiring become part of the transmission line.)
Don't know how large that will be.


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