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With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and
the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. |
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"gareth" wrote:
With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. - .-- .- - -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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"Stephen Thomas Cole" wrote in message ... "gareth" wrote: With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. - .-- .- - ..-.. --- .-.. -- ;-) .. 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. .. http://turner-smith.uk |
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:44:02 -0000, "gareth"
wrote: With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. £100? surely not! http://tinyurl.com/zev54gt |
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"Rambo" wrote in message
... On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:44:02 -0000, "gareth" wrote: With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. £100? surely not! http://tinyurl.com/zev54gt WOW! Even more reason to encourage an interest in Morse Code! Of course, the other £90 comes from the fee that the aerial installer is going to charge you to put the pole with dipole attached onto your chimney! :-) |
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On 19/01/2016 18:44, gareth wrote:
With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Have taken part in a number of highly successful high profile special event stations the one thing that excited visitors both old and new was CW. Nothing else came close, we had hordes of kids lining up to have their name transmitted in morse and to play with oscillators. When running pileups with qso's being displayed in real time on a computer display adults were amazed at: 1. The distances involved 2. The speed of contacts 3. The bouncing around between countries/continents Digimodes bore the public and someone talking on sideband/FM/DV/repeater is just a **** talking sh!te into a microphone. CW is the mode par excellence for attracting new comers. Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? Great idea! It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. It is in morse code, home construction and tinkering that friendliness and real amateur radio survives. -- Extend ****s law - make 'em wear a cheat sheet 24/7 |
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, Fred Roberts wrote:
On 19/01/2016 18:44, gareth wrote: With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Have taken part in a number of highly successful high profile special event stations the one thing that excited visitors both old and new was CW. Nothing else came close, we had hordes of kids lining up to have their name transmitted in morse and to play with oscillators. When running pileups with qso's being displayed in real time on a computer display adults were amazed at: It's a skill and kids (as opposed to adults) like doing things that most can't. Like I said in a recent thread, when I got my ham license at age 12 in 1972, the test wasn't a hurdle, it was an adventure. I was soaking up as much theory as I could read anyway. There was a time when many or most hams came into the hobby at a relatively young age. IN more recent times, that's changed, probably a ersult of the "dumbing down". They don't have to learn so much (at a time when they might not be interested in learning) but their lure into the hobby is quite different from in the old days, or when we were kids. As that happens, it changes the hobby. The retiring ARRL president was only licensed in 1985 or so, 30 years ago but I gather she wasn't a child. That has to skew things, the adults seeing the hobby differently. If you think code is an impediment, you will perceive it as a negative part of the hobby. Same with all that technical stuff. One of those blogs that get jammed into the newsgroup, the other day someone said something about amateur radio not being 'spiffy" enough. But time was those pictures of people's shacks with all that gear was good enough. Has that faded, or are the adults deciding it can't be a lure for the young, so they feel they have to compete with all the current stuff? I think the hobby is less attractive today, based on how it's presented (and it gets a lot less presentation to the public than in the past). But some of that is because people have tried to erase the past, because they feel it doesnt' compete with the new. Building a crystal radio today doesn't offer much in the way of a practical radio. But it's the essence of putting those parts together and having it work that was appealing. When I started building electronic projects, the first few never worked, I had no idea what went wrong (in retrospect, it might have been my lousy soldering, or the parts that they substituted at the store, I didn't know enough to fix things back then). But then I kept at it, and when I took parts out of something and twisted the leads together and that oscillator oscillated, that was so neat. I'd learned enough to be able to evaluate the parts and make substitutes. That accomplishment is probably a key part of the appeal of the hobby to the young, who are in a very different place than adults. Michael 1. The distances involved 2. The speed of contacts 3. The bouncing around between countries/continents Digimodes bore the public and someone talking on sideband/FM/DV/repeater is just a **** talking sh!te into a microphone. CW is the mode par excellence for attracting new comers. Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? Great idea! It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. It is in morse code, home construction and tinkering that friendliness and real amateur radio survives. -- Extend ****s law - make 'em wear a cheat sheet 24/7 |
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On 19/01/2016 18:44, gareth wrote: With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Have taken part in a number of highly successful high profile special event stations the one thing that excited visitors both old and new was CW. Nothing else came close, we had hordes of kids lining up What does Gareth usually say about hams who try and attract youngsters to the hobby? to have their name transmitted in morse and to play with oscillators. When running pileups with qso's being displayed in real time on a computer display adults were amazed at: 1. The distances involved 2. The speed of contacts 3. The bouncing around between countries/continents The exact same can be said of any phone pile-up at a public event. Digimodes bore the public and someone talking on sideband/FM/DV/repeater is just a **** talking sh!te into a microphone. CW is the mode par excellence for attracting new comers. Perhaps the larger clubs could consider paying the exam fees for candidates if those candidates can show proper proficiency in Morse? Great idea! It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. It is in morse code, home construction and tinkering that friendliness and real amateur radio survives. What a bizarre and emotional rant. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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On 20/01/2016 01:15, Fred Roberts wrote:
On 19/01/2016 18:44, gareth wrote: With the apparent interest that youngsters have in Enigma Machines, and the like, if we could excite them about Morse Code, then, if attracted to amateur radio, they could realise a complete station for an outlay of under £100, and build it themselves and get the _REAL_ radio amateur kick! Have taken part in a number of highly successful high profile special event stations the one thing that excited visitors both old and new was CW. Nothing else came close, we had hordes of kids lining up to have their name transmitted in morse and to play with oscillators. When running pileups with qso's being displayed in real time on a computer display adults were amazed at: 1. The distances involved 2. The speed of contacts 3. The bouncing around between countries/continents Digimodes bore the public and someone talking on sideband/FM/DV/repeater is just a **** talking sh!te into a microphone. CW is the mode par excellence for attracting new comers. Ditto. When kids carry in their pockets the ability to speak across the planet as well as text chat and send images they have little interest in speech or digital. When I was a lad the prospect of talking transatlantic was the stuff of sci fi. Today kids will carry on a conversation with people across the globe while in-game chatting on the xbox. What I find grabs their attention is hand winding a toilet roll tube inductor then connecting it up to a long wire, a galena crystal and a crystal earpiece and with drawing pins and fibreboard and listening to a local radio station. From there it is onto making a pixie or similar and playing with morse. Unfortunately that is the point that the interest wanes for most of them. Andy |
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On 20/01/2016 04:06, Michael Black wrote:
There was a time when many or most hams came into the hobby at a relatively young age. IN more recent times, that's changed, probably a ersult of the "dumbing down". They don't have to learn so much (at a time when they might not be interested in learning) but their lure into the hobby is quite different from in the old days, or when we were kids. The 'national society' in the UK (I'm not a member) has been pursuing the youngster approach for a decade or more. Resources were poured into a touring 'Fun Bus' that was a mobile demo station - it's now rusting away somewhere. The approach to schools failed too. Buildathons result in kids recalling the Raspberry Pi instead of the PSK it was built to decode. The house magazine is rammed with pictures of six-year-olds waving certificates. But what has been the result of this blitz? The membership of 'national society', as published in graphical form by them in 2000 and again more than a decade later, shows the merest blip in the under-20 group. The reports that carry this graph say the same thing: the 'average amateur. in the UK is 60 years old, works CW, and builds things. The greatest influx of new members is in the 40-year-old bracket. Yet money and resources continue to be squandered in attracting 'the young'. 'The youth approach has failed - we need more youths' seems to be the way forward. In the military, it's known as reinforcing failure, and it never works. -- Spike "They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom" - with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet |
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On 20/01/2016 01:15, Fred Roberts wrote:
Have taken part in a number of highly successful high profile special event stations the one thing that excited visitors both old and new was CW. Nothing else came close, we had hordes of kids lining up to have their name transmitted in morse and to play with oscillators. When running pileups with qso's being displayed in real time on a computer display adults were amazed at: 1. The distances involved 2. The speed of contacts 3. The bouncing around between countries/continents Digimodes bore the public and someone talking on sideband/FM/DV/repeater is just a **** talking sh!te into a microphone. CW is the mode par excellence for attracting new comers. It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. It is in morse code, home construction and tinkering that friendliness and real amateur radio survives. What an excellent description. WHS in spades. -- Spike "They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom" - with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet |
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In message , AndyW
writes When I was a lad the prospect of talking transatlantic was the stuff of sci fi. Never mind 'transatlantic'. When I was a lad, even the prospect of talking to someone in the next village was the stuff of sci-fi. We didn't get electricity in the village until I was nearly 5 years old, and 'simple' electricity was only pure magic. -- Ian |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
... We didn't get electricity in the village until I was nearly 5 years old, and 'simple' electricity was only pure magic. As late as the mid 1960s on a family holiday I was staying in what was little more than a croft, the home of a relative's mother-in-law. Water was got from a spring on the hillside and the old lady would not have electricity installed lest it leaked out of the sockets during the night and killed them all. Lighting by oil lamps, washing by a jug and bowl in the bedroom, hams curing over the front of the fire. |
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"Spike" wrote in message
... On 20/01/2016 01:15, Fred Roberts wrote: Have taken part in a number of highly successful high profile special event stations the one thing that excited visitors both old and new was CW. Nothing else came close, we had hordes of kids lining up to have their name transmitted in morse and to play with oscillators. When running pileups with qso's being displayed in real time on a computer display adults were amazed at: 1. The distances involved 2. The speed of contacts 3. The bouncing around between countries/continents Digimodes bore the public and someone talking on sideband/FM/DV/repeater is just a **** talking sh!te into a microphone. CW is the mode par excellence for attracting new comers. It is Morse QSOs that the traditional friendliness still survives. It is in morse code, home construction and tinkering that friendliness and real amateur radio survives. What an excellent description. WHS in spades. +1. Also taking Rambo's advert into consideration, then Enigma, Morse and CW spy sets could be the way forward if it s REALLY thought necessary to attract the youngsters. |
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En el artículo , Stephen Thomas
Cole escribió: What does Gareth usually say about hams who try and attract youngsters to the hobby? He offers sex training to their teenage daughters. From: "gareth" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0000 Message-ID: "If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training?" What a sordid sleazeball. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Stephen Thomas Cole escribió: What does Gareth usually say about hams who try and attract youngsters to the hobby? He offers sex training to their teenage daughters. I am no apologist for Gareth's real life misbehaviour, but the above is, as you are probably aware, a lie. From: "gareth" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 16:12:31 -0000 Message-ID: "If you had a teenage daughter, which would you prefer her to receive, sex education or sex training?" What a sordid sleazeball. It was a rather prurient but effective illustration of the difference between training and education. Not vey tasteful, but not what you claimed. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 20/01/2016 04:06, Michael Black wrote:
[snip] It's a skill and kids (as opposed to adults) like doing things that most can't. It has an aura of mystique about it and that attracts people. Like I said in a recent thread, when I got my ham license at age 12 in 1972, the test wasn't a hurdle, it was an adventure. I was soaking up as much theory as I could read anyway. Pretty much the same story here, I was reading everything I could get my hands on (back then there were a lot more magazines around), talking to the locals at clubs, swl'ing and studting a copy of the RAE manual. There was a time when many or most hams came into the hobby at a relatively young age. I came in at the age of 22 but I don't remember a time when I wasn't fascinated by radio, I remember as a small child (pre-school) asking my mother how radios worked. IN more recent times, that's changed, probably a ersult of the "dumbing down". They don't have to learn so much (at a time when they might not be interested in learning) but their lure into the hobby is quite different from in the old days, or when we were kids. The internet has changed everything. As that happens, it changes the hobby. The retiring ARRL president was only licensed in 1985 or so, 30 years ago but I gather she wasn't a child. That has to skew things, the adults seeing the hobby differently. The trick about attacting newcomers is to spark an interest in them when they are young and I don't mean dumb the crap out of it just to get kids on the air! This policy has been a disaster in the UK. Spark an interest via CW and home construction and the likelihood is a high percentage will take up the service when adults. If you think code is an impediment, you will perceive it as a negative part of the hobby. It's a very, very good idiot filter. Same with all that technical stuff. There's no way around that though, amateur radio is a technical pursuit. One of those blogs that get jammed into the newsgroup, the other day someone said something about amateur radio not being 'spiffy" enough. But time was those pictures of people's shacks with all that gear was good enough. Has that faded, or are the adults deciding it can't be a lure for the young, so they feel they have to compete with all the current stuff? I believe the trick is to make it interesting and cool. Morse interests kids and being able to make world wide contacts with a few watts of homebrewed RF is cool. I think the hobby is less attractive today, based on how it's presented (and it gets a lot less presentation to the public than in the past). But some of that is because people have tried to erase the past, because they feel it doesnt' compete with the new. It is presented in entirely the wrong way. Unwashed, uneducated ****s who have been gifted access to amateur radio via the great dumb down talking utter crap into a microphone at special event stations presents amateur radio in the worst possible light. It is no coincidence that since the dumb down amateur radio has all but died in the UK, the RSGB is on its knees and rallies are deserted. Building a crystal radio today doesn't offer much in the way of a practical radio. But it's the essence of putting those parts together and having it work that was appealing. Absolutely right! When I started building electronic projects, the first few never worked, I had no idea what went wrong (in retrospect, it might have been my lousy soldering, or the parts that they substituted at the store, I didn't know enough to fix things back then). But then I kept at it, and when I took parts out of something and twisted the leads together and that oscillator oscillated, that was so neat. I'd learned enough to be able to evaluate the parts and make substitutes. That accomplishment is probably a key part of the appeal of the hobby to the young, who are in a very different place than adults. I started building when I was a child. And I will never forget the thrill when licensed of hearing my first DX on a home built rx or making my first qrp qso's with home brewed RF. We shouldn't forget that home brew and CW go together like hand in glove -- Extend ****s law - make 'em wear a cheat sheet 24/7 |
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"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
... Unwashed, uneducated ****s who have been gifted access to amateur radio via the great dumb down talking utter crap into a microphone at special event stations presents amateur radio in the worst possible light. STC? I started building when I was a child. And I will never forget the thrill when licensed of hearing my first DX on a home built rx or making my first qrp qso's with home brewed RF. We shouldn't forget that home brew and CW go together like hand in glove When I cobbled together my blooper using one half on a 12AT7 I was thrilled to receive Voice of America. It was only later that I learned that they had a big TX in Europe! |
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"Edmund H. Ramm" wrote in message ... In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. very true I wasn't intelligent but I was determined to get on HF ....... |
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"Edmund H. Ramm" wrote in message
... In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. What's wrong with instant gratification? -- ;-) .. 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint. .. http://turner-smith.uk |
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On 1/22/2016 4:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote:
In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. I don't know about "faster" or "easier". But I have experienced in over 45 years of teaching, that those with the will and determination to learn the code succeed. Those who do not don't learn. I've always been willing to help those who are willing to spend the time and effort. However, there is no way I can be a substitute for it. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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On 23/01/2016 00:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/22/2016 4:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote: In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. I don't know about "faster" or "easier". But I have experienced in over 45 years of teaching, that those with the will and determination to learn the code succeed. Those who do not don't learn. I've always been willing to help those who are willing to spend the time and effort. However, there is no way I can be a substitute for it. I tried to teach GM1FLQ once but he didn't respond...he said he wasn't musical ??? ....any excuse -- Cheat your way through life, join the Freemasons DIGITAL just doesn't work properly most of the time Hammy Mens are not Radio Amateurs |
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On 22/01/2016 22:09, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Edmund H. Ramm" wrote in message ... In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. very true I wasn't intelligent but I was determined to get on HF ....... whereas some intelligent people just waited ...decades then upgraded to an M3 ...tee hee...I remember that person...used to be on here ..... -- Cheat your way through life, join the Freemasons DIGITAL just doesn't work properly most of the time Hammy Mens are not Radio Amateurs |
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In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes On 23/01/2016 00:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 1/22/2016 4:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote: In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. I don't know about "faster" or "easier". But I have experienced in over 45 years of teaching, that those with the will and determination to learn the code succeed. Those who do not don't learn. I've always been willing to help those who are willing to spend the time and effort. However, there is no way I can be a substitute for it. I tried to teach GM1FLQ once but he didn't respond...he said he wasn't musical ??? ....any excuse Not musical? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qQZ92onhU and the follow-ons. -- Ian |
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 1/22/2016 4:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote: As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. I don't know about "faster" or "easier". But I have experienced in over 45 years of teaching, that those with the will and determination to learn the code succeed. Those who do not don't learn. I've always been willing to help those who are willing to spend the time and effort. However, there is no way I can be a substitute for it. Will, determination, endurance and so on are all well and good, but are all also totally moot points. The fact is, morse is not necessary for many, many amateurs to enjoy their hobby. Not necessary in terms of there being so many other modes and methods of amateur communication and not necessary in terms of it no longer being a requirement to access sections of spectrum. If somebody wants to use morse then they are free and able to learn it and use it. Most amateurs these days don't bother learning it, which probably tells us quite a lot, but most glaringly it suggests that it's a mode that simply doesn't have a strong enough pull factor to convince people to learn it without having a gun (in the form of HF access) placed against their head. If people really wanted to communicate in morse, we'd see a lot more people learning it. -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ... writes On 23/01/2016 00:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 1/22/2016 4:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote: In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. I don't know about "faster" or "easier". But I have experienced in over 45 years of teaching, that those with the will and determination to learn the code succeed. Those who do not don't learn. I've always been willing to help those who are willing to spend the time and effort. However, there is no way I can be a substitute for it. I tried to teach GM1FLQ once but he didn't respond...he said he wasn't musical ??? ....any excuse Not musical? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qQZ92onhU and the follow-ons. When I wsa a kid, I had a record titled "CQ Serenade". It was an actual song, put together by a ham or two in the music business. I guess it was kind of big band, but it actually incorporated CW. I can't remember if they lyrics referenced amateur radio or not. I can't even remember how I got the record, I think someone had a bunch of them from when the record was "hot". Michael |
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Michael Black wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Ian Jackson wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qQZ92onhU and the follow-ons. When I wsa a kid, I had a record titled "CQ Serenade". It was an actual song, put together by a ham or two in the music business. I guess it was kind of big band, but it actually incorporated CW. I can't remember if they lyrics referenced amateur radio or not. I can't even remember how I got the record, I think someone had a bunch of them from when the record was "hot". An all-time favourite album for me is "Radio KAOS" by Roger Waters, which has morse peppered throughout, as well as being the base of the cover art. IIRC, at least some of the morse is a "secret" hidden verse for the closing track "The Tide Is Turning". Give the record a spin on YouTube, it's cracking stuff (although his later album, "Amused To Death", is much better and the equal of anything he made with Pink Floyd, including Dark Side Of The Moon). -- STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
xample.org... When I wsa a kid, I had a record titled "CQ Serenade". It was an actual song, put together by a ham or two in the music business. I guess it was kind of big band, but it actually incorporated CW. I can't remember if they lyrics referenced amateur radio or not. I can't even remember how I got the record, I think someone had a bunch of them from when the record was "hot". For many years, one way of training in Morse was the G3HSC Rhythm Method, which came as a set of 2 LPs. |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message xample.org... On Sat, 23 Jan 2016, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Jim GM4DHJ ... writes On 23/01/2016 00:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 1/22/2016 4:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote: In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. I don't know about "faster" or "easier". But I have experienced in over 45 years of teaching, that those with the will and determination to learn the code succeed. Those who do not don't learn. I've always been willing to help those who are willing to spend the time and effort. However, there is no way I can be a substitute for it. I tried to teach GM1FLQ once but he didn't respond...he said he wasn't musical ??? ....any excuse Not musical? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qQZ92onhU and the follow-ons. When I wsa a kid, I had a record titled "CQ Serenade". It was an actual song, put together by a ham or two in the music business. I guess it was kind of big band, but it actually incorporated CW. I can't remember if they lyrics referenced amateur radio or not. I can't even remember how I got the record, I think someone had a bunch of them from when the record was "hot". Michael I've posted it...couldn't find this thread ....sorry .... |
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"gareth" wrote in message ... "Michael Black" wrote in message xample.org... When I wsa a kid, I had a record titled "CQ Serenade". It was an actual song, put together by a ham or two in the music business. I guess it was kind of big band, but it actually incorporated CW. I can't remember if they lyrics referenced amateur radio or not. I can't even remember how I got the record, I think someone had a bunch of them from when the record was "hot". For many years, one way of training in Morse was the G3HSC Rhythm Method, which came as a set of 2 LPs. I learned with that on a one valve 33 45 78 record player...think it buggered up my spacing ..... |
Morseing it up?
On 01/22/2016 09:53 PM, Edmund H. Ramm wrote:
In Fred Roberts writes: [...] It's a very, very good idiot filter. [...] =========== As a Morse instructor I can't confirm that more intelligent people learn CW faster or easier. But CW decidedly is not for the Instant Gratification Crowd. Determination and endurance are valuable assets when learning Morse. 73, Eddi ._._. ============ +1 Frank , GM0CSZ / KN6WH |
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