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Paul Burridge August 25th 04 11:44 PM

Noisy trimmer pots
 
Hi,

I bought a big bag of surplus assorted trimmer pots at a radio rally 2
years ago. They're all unused, which I assumed meant they'd be
trouble-free. However, many of them seem to have gone very 'noisy' and
if one tries to wind them from one end to the other, the resulting
voltage readings jump around a lot and often have 'blank' areas for
part of an arc where no contact seems to be being made between wiper
and track. I immediately suspected that they'd probably require a good
dousing with switch-lubricant, but I'm not sure if that's the best
remedy and even if it is, there doesn't seem to be any serviceable
access into them through which one might be able to spray some lube.
The ones I have are between a quarter and one-half inch in diameter
approx and have a protective casing around them, unlike the good old
skeleton presets one could get at easily. Anyone care to give me any
tips on the best way to revitalise these old pots?

Thanks.
--

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JGBOYLES August 26th 04 12:24 AM

Anyone care to give me any
tips on the best way to revitalise these old pots?


No way if these are sealed. They are probably carbon composition, which is
notorious for getting noisy with age. The trash container is where I would
deposit them. New ones are not that expensive, but I have used new ones that
are noisy.
Ham radio stuff, they might work after a fashion, but I would be very careful
using them in a critical circuit.
73 Gary N4AST

Gregg August 26th 04 02:17 AM

WD-40

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[email protected] August 26th 04 05:28 AM

Paul Burridge wrote:

Hi,

I bought a big bag of surplus assorted trimmer pots at a radio rally 2
years ago. They're all unused, which I assumed meant they'd be
trouble-free. However, many of them seem to have gone very 'noisy' and
if one tries to wind them from one end to the other, the resulting
voltage readings jump around a lot and often have 'blank' areas for
part of an arc where no contact seems to be being made between wiper
and track. I immediately suspected that they'd probably require a good
dousing with switch-lubricant, but I'm not sure if that's the best
remedy and even if it is, there doesn't seem to be any serviceable
access into them through which one might be able to spray some lube.
The ones I have are between a quarter and one-half inch in diameter
approx and have a protective casing around them, unlike the good old
skeleton presets one could get at easily. Anyone care to give me any
tips on the best way to revitalise these old pots?

Thanks.


A trimmer pot shouldn't be intended for use in a circuit requiring
frequent adjustment - which means that the noisy behavior you
see may not be a show stopper. You can crank the thing through
a few cycles which may clean it well enough for use. If you are
going to toss them anyway, then experiment to see if you can salvage
them. Someone mentioned WD-40. You could dunk one in
isopropyl alchohol and crank it while immersed, then let it air dry.
It's worth experimenting, even if you end up tossing them all.
At least you'll learn what doesn't work!

Phil Munro August 26th 04 03:33 PM

wrote:

Paul Burridge wrote:

Hi,

I bought a big bag of surplus assorted trimmer pots at a radio rally 2
years ago. They're all unused, which I assumed meant they'd be
trouble-free. However, many of them seem to have gone very 'noisy' and
if one tries to wind them from one end to the other, the resulting
voltage readings jump around a lot and often have 'blank' areas for
part of an arc where no contact seems to be being made between wiper
and track. I immediately suspected that they'd probably require a good
dousing with switch-lubricant, but I'm not sure if that's the best
remedy and even if it is, there doesn't seem to be any serviceable
access into them through which one might be able to spray some lube.
The ones I have are between a quarter and one-half inch in diameter
approx and have a protective casing around them, unlike the good old
skeleton presets one could get at easily. Anyone care to give me any
tips on the best way to revitalise these old pots?

Thanks.

A trimmer pot shouldn't be intended for use in a circuit requiring
frequent adjustment - which means that the noisy behavior you
see may not be a show stopper. You can crank the thing through
a few cycles which may clean it well enough for use. If you are
going to toss them anyway, then experiment to see if you can salvage
them. Someone mentioned WD-40. You could dunk one in
isopropyl alchohol and crank it while immersed, then let it air dry.
It's worth experimenting, even if you end up tossing them all.
At least you'll learn what doesn't work!

In the old days (many years ago) we used "Quietrole", a red liquid,
on pots. It contained carbon tet AND a lubricant (I was told back then)
and it worked very well. Of course that was on the older rotary pots
in use at the time.
I think that stuff may still be available in a spray can, but it
has been quite a few years since I bought a can of it. --Phil

--
Phil Munro Dept of Electrical & Computer Engin
Youngstown State University
Youngstown, Ohio 44555


Mark V Russo August 26th 04 05:36 PM

Hi, Just get a can of tuner spray, sometimes called TV tuner spray,
tuner shower, etc..
That usually works. It is a common thing.
Most of the electronic stores will have it.
73


Paul Burridge wrote:

Hi,

I bought a big bag of surplus assorted trimmer pots at a radio rally 2
years ago. They're all unused, which I assumed meant they'd be
trouble-free. However, many of them seem to have gone very 'noisy' and
if one tries to wind them from one end to the other, the resulting
voltage readings jump around a lot and often have 'blank' areas for
part of an arc where no contact seems to be being made between wiper
and track. I immediately suspected that they'd probably require a good
dousing with switch-lubricant, but I'm not sure if that's the best
remedy and even if it is, there doesn't seem to be any serviceable
access into them through which one might be able to spray some lube.
The ones I have are between a quarter and one-half inch in diameter
approx and have a protective casing around them, unlike the good old
skeleton presets one could get at easily. Anyone care to give me any
tips on the best way to revitalise these old pots?

Thanks.




clifto August 26th 04 07:12 PM

Phil Munro wrote:
In the old days (many years ago) we used "Quietrole", a red liquid,
on pots. It contained carbon tet AND a lubricant (I was told back then)
and it worked very well. Of course that was on the older rotary pots
in use at the time.


DeOxit makes a 5% spray that's good. However, the OP says he can't see a
way into the trimmer body.

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If Kerry can't cope with the "Republican Attack Machine",
how can he hope to deal with Al Qaeda?

Steve Nosko August 26th 04 09:33 PM


"Mark V Russo" wrote in message ...

Hi, Just get a can of tuner spray, sometimes called TV tuner spray, tuner shower, etc..
73


Paul Burridge wrote:
Hi,

I bought a big bag of surplus assorted trimmer pots at a radio rally 2
years ago. They're all unused, which I assumed meant they'd be
trouble-free. However, many of them seem to have gone very 'noisy' and
if one tries to wind them from one end to the other, ....Radio Shack carried this. I have a can, but don't know if it is still available.-- Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's.

Phil Munro August 27th 04 03:43 PM

clifto wrote:

Phil Munro wrote:

In the old days (many years ago) we used "Quietrole", a red liquid,
on pots. It contained carbon tet AND a lubricant (I was told back then)
and it worked very well. Of course that was on the older rotary pots
in use at the time.


DeOxit makes a 5% spray that's good. However, the OP says he can't see a
way into the trimmer body.

With the Quietrole stuff and the old rotary pots, we used to have
some success with taking the knob off and dropping some liquid on the
shaft. It didn't work as well (as fast) as squirting it into the open
spot on the pots, but it would work many times.
But as I remember it, it was important to get something specifically
for cleaning pots, since carbon tet by itself would not leave behind
the appropriate lub for a lasting solution. --Phil
--
Phil Munro Dept of Electrical & Computer Engin
Youngstown State University
Youngstown, Ohio 44555



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