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Paul Burridge September 2nd 04 06:35 PM

On 2 Sep 2004 10:10:33 -0700, (Mike Monett) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Actually, I didn't write that. Those were excerpts from various
sites that discussed the pros and cons of inverted mesa crystals.


[excellent references snipped]

Thanks, Mike. That lot ought to keep me quiet for a while!

p.


--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

Steve Nosko September 2nd 04 07:04 PM


Generally speaking. it is the part of the blank which is directly under the
electrodes, and very near to the edges of the electrodes, that determine the
frequency. I was close to some 135 MHz crystal filter some years ago, but
wasn not aware of the technology useed -- it wasn't used in the final
design.
--
Steve N, K,9;d, c. i My email has no u's.



Mike Monett September 2nd 04 08:46 PM

Paul Burridge wrote:

[excellent references snipped]

Thanks, Mike. That lot ought to keep me quiet for a while!

p.


Now, watch you don't get too smart! I enjoy the discussions you raise and
usually end up learning something - which is more than I can say for some
of the self-appointed experts in other newsgroups;)

Best Wishes,

Mike Monett

Jim Adney September 3rd 04 02:52 AM

On 1 Sep 2004 09:59:49 -0700 (Tom Bruhns) wrote:

Suggestion: just get a 100MHz TTL oscillator. I believe Harold
offered you one last time you posted about 100MHz xtals a couple years
ago. ECL won't have 2.5V output, but I could supply you with a nice
little PECL 100MHz VCXO that you could easily trim to "exactly"
100MHz. It will deliver about 800mV p-p into 50 ohms.


What is PECL?

What kind of stability and aging could I expect from this oscillator?

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Jim Adney

Madison, WI 53711 USA
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Leon Heller September 3rd 04 08:44 AM

"Jim Adney" wrote in message
...
On 1 Sep 2004 09:59:49 -0700 (Tom Bruhns) wrote:

Suggestion: just get a 100MHz TTL oscillator. I believe Harold
offered you one last time you posted about 100MHz xtals a couple years
ago. ECL won't have 2.5V output, but I could supply you with a nice
little PECL 100MHz VCXO that you could easily trim to "exactly"
100MHz. It will deliver about 800mV p-p into 50 ohms.


What is PECL?


Plessey emitter-coupled logic, like MECL, which is made by Motorola.

Leon



Jure Z. September 3rd 04 03:05 PM

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"Jim Adney" wrote in message
.. .
On 1 Sep 2004 09:59:49 -0700
(Tom Bruhns) wrote:

Suggestion: just get a 100MHz TTL oscillator. I believe Harold
offered you one last time you posted about 100MHz xtals a couple years
ago. ECL won't have 2.5V output, but I could supply you with a nice
little PECL 100MHz VCXO that you could easily trim to "exactly"
100MHz. It will deliver about 800mV p-p into 50 ohms.


What is PECL?


Plessey emitter-coupled logic, like MECL, which is made by Motorola.

Leon




PECL is ECL run from a positive supply. ECL is normally run from a negative
supply respect to ground. So, they have the sme swings, but different "bias"
levels.

Jure Z.

Tom Bruhns September 3rd 04 04:27 PM

PECL = positive-supply ECL. It's set up to run from a +5V supply
(with the metal case grounded), instead of the usual -5.2V for ECL.
Has nothing to do with Plessey.

I believe it's spec'd +/-20ppm total from -40C to +85C. It uses a
standard AT-cut crystal, I believe, so one could find a zero-slope
operating temperature and it'd be quite stable.

Cheers,
Tom



Jim Adney wrote in message . ..
On 1 Sep 2004 09:59:49 -0700 (Tom Bruhns) wrote:

Suggestion: just get a 100MHz TTL oscillator. I believe Harold
offered you one last time you posted about 100MHz xtals a couple years
ago. ECL won't have 2.5V output, but I could supply you with a nice
little PECL 100MHz VCXO that you could easily trim to "exactly"
100MHz. It will deliver about 800mV p-p into 50 ohms.


What is PECL?

What kind of stability and aging could I expect from this oscillator?

-
-----------------------------------------------
Jim Adney

Madison, WI 53711 USA
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Leon Heller September 3rd 04 06:35 PM

"Tom Bruhns" wrote in message
m...
PECL = positive-supply ECL. It's set up to run from a +5V supply
(with the metal case grounded), instead of the usual -5.2V for ECL.
Has nothing to do with Plessey.


Yes, you are correct. Plessey used to make it. Please excuse my confusion.

Leon




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