Yes Chris, you're correct, similar situation for myself and some of the kids
on the block years ago.

Just show up at the 'airstrip' and one of the old timers would be more then
happy to take up your new plane for the maiden voyage, give it a going over
and then hand the r/c box over to you and let you learn by doing. Soon we all
were flying on our own and teaching the new kids.

Our neighbor was retired engineer with Grumman, noticed we had in interest in
model rockets and r/c planes, he could not build himself anymore due to
arthritis
but he taught all of us everything he could in the short time he had left.

That was a long time ago but all of us young pups ended up working for
Boeing and Northrup. Otherwise we would have ended up in trouble !

jeff


Chris wrote:

There are some of us "CBer's" who enjoy the equipment as much as or more
than the use of it. I definitely won't argue that CB radio is corrupt beyond
salvaging. That's why many CBer's turn to ham. I have known many hams who dx
on ham bands but use CB to talk to locals. That's how I learned alot of what
I know and got interested in amateur radio. I don't have my license yet but
I have the resources to study. I just hope that not too many CBer's who want
to convert are met by hams who shun them. In one of my other hobbies, R/C
aircraft, there are always people willing to spend their evenings and
weekends teaching the newbies. The market there is also dominated by
ready-made equipment now but if not for the dedicated builders who help
others, no one would build there own anymore. One thing is common to both
hobbies. The more you do it yourself, the more you learn. For now, it's back
to studying.

Chris

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
| Yes it is, but such a characteristic seems to be totally lost
| on most newcomers who are no better than CBers who buy
| their complete station off-the-shelf and even send it back to the
| dealer for repairs.
|
| Sadly they are misled by the Mongolian hordes of
| CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams who have corrupted
| Ham Radio in recent years. (And you don't have to have ever
| held a CB licence to qualify for membership of that class
| of failures - merely having a station of entirely off-the-shelf
| consumer-type purchases puts you fairly and squarely
| in that group!)
|
| "Paul Burridge" wrote in message
| ...
| Well do you think it is? I personally can't think of any other
| passtime accessible to the individual which requires such a high
| degree of technical knowledge to succeed at. If anyone can think of
| something more complex, let's hear it!
|
|

How about amateur robotics and spacecraft ?

Minion

Paul wrote:

Hi guys,

Well do you think it is? I personally can't think of any other
passtime accessible to the individual which requires such a high
degree of technical knowledge to succeed at. If anyone can think of
something more complex, let's hear it!

Paul
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

Well do you think it is? I personally can't think of any other
passtime accessible to the individual which requires such a high
degree of technical knowledge to succeed at. If anyone can think of
something more complex, let's hear it!

This is a pointless question.

Any hobby can be made as technical or non-technical as its adherant wants.
None is necessarily superior to any other if that's what you were getting
at.

And what is your definition of 'succeeding at'?

73, Peter VK3YE

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:58:17 +1000, "Peter Parker"
wrote:

This is a pointless question.

In that case, please accept my humble apologies for having the
audacity to ask it.

Any hobby can be made as technical or non-technical as its adherant wants.
None is necessarily superior to any other if that's what you were getting
at.

Thanks. My views on flower-arranging have gone up stratospherically.

And what is your definition of 'succeeding at'?

To be able to design and build a receiver, transmitter, amp; whatever
and get it working to expectations.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

To be able to design and build a receiver, transmitter, amp; whatever
and get it working to expectations.
--

Well that will never happen with the New so called Hams, most have a hard time
hooking Mike.

No, the question is not pointless. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit.

If it's not technical for you, then you may be an
unwitting CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

"Peter Parker" wrote in message
...
"Paul Burridge" wrote in message
...
Well do you think it is? I personally can't think of any other
passtime accessible to the individual which requires such a high
degree of technical knowledge to succeed at. If anyone can think of
something more complex, let's hear it!
This is a pointless question.
Any hobby can be made as technical or non-technical as its adherant wants.
None is necessarily superior to any other if that's what you were getting
at.

Airy R. Bean wrote:
No, the question is not pointless. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit.

If it's not technical for you, then you may be an
unwitting CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

In addition to being a technical pursuit, Ham Radio also provides
some self-delusional people the opportunity to make precious
distinctions between themselves and others in order to provide
those self delusionists with a sense of smug superiority. It's just
another of the psychological benefits of participating in the hobby.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

I think that you are confusing my wish to preserve Ham
Radio as a technical pursuit with your own mental processes
which you project so well below.

Perhaps it is that you are an unwitting CBer-Masquerading-
As-A-Radio-Ham who is annoyed at being "outed" and which
annoyance results in you revealing the innermost workings
of your psyche as below?

It is a very exciting and inspiring thing to continue to
educate yourself in all matters of technology - try it and
you'll find that there is more to Ham Radio than your
own CBisation of it!

"Tom Donaly" wrote in message
. com...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
No, the question is not pointless. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit.
If it's not technical for you, then you may be an
unwitting CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham
In addition to being a technical pursuit, Ham Radio also provides
some self-delusional people the opportunity to make precious
distinctions between themselves and others in order to provide
those self delusionists with a sense of smug superiority. It's just
another of the psychological benefits of participating in the hobby.

Airy R. Bean wrote:
I think that you are confusing my wish to preserve Ham
Radio as a technical pursuit with your own mental processes
which you project so well below.

Perhaps it is that you are an unwitting CBer-Masquerading-
As-A-Radio-Ham who is annoyed at being "outed" and which
annoyance results in you revealing the innermost workings
of your psyche as below?

It is a very exciting and inspiring thing to continue to
educate yourself in all matters of technology - try it and
you'll find that there is more to Ham Radio than your
own CBisation of it!

"Tom Donaly" wrote in message
. com...

Airy R. Bean wrote:

No, the question is not pointless. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit.
If it's not technical for you, then you may be an
unwitting CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

In addition to being a technical pursuit, Ham Radio also provides
some self-delusional people the opportunity to make precious
distinctions between themselves and others in order to provide
those self delusionists with a sense of smug superiority. It's just
another of the psychological benefits of participating in the hobby.




If you're trying to "preserve Ham Radio as a technical pursuit,"
you won't do it by belittling other's contributions to the hobby.
You will however reinforce other's belief that you're just another
grouchy, old, British crackpot who is constantly getting exercised
over what other people consider trivial matters. On the antenna
newsgroup, there's another Briton like yourself who thinks it's of
the utmost importance that hams change the name of their SWR meters
to "transmitter loading indicators." I expect some day to hear of
some Englishman who wants to change the name "spoon" to "pie-hole
insertion device."
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
I think that you are confusing my wish to preserve Ham
Radio as a technical pursuit with your own mental processes
which you project so well below.

Perhaps it is that you are an unwitting CBer-Masquerading-
As-A-Radio-Ham who is annoyed at being "outed" and which
annoyance results in you revealing the innermost workings
of your psyche as below?

It is a very exciting and inspiring thing to continue to
educate yourself in all matters of technology - try it and
you'll find that there is more to Ham Radio than your
own CBisation of it!


Be you are a confessed CBer. Remember "some of my best friends" etc.